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India and Israel are two different countries. India is one of the largest countries in the world easily pointed out in world atlas while Israel, on the other hand, is a very small country and can hardly be pointed out in world atlas. India is one of the poorest countries in the world with a very low per capita income, while Israel is among the top 20 in per capita income index. Two countries distance from each other but still have many similarities.

In both these countries religions were established, some of which have among the largest number of followers in the world. Both these countries have many holy sites, which are among the holiest for their followers. In India, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism were established. The holiest sites of these religions exist in India. In Israel, Judaism and Christianity were established. The holiest sites of these religions exist in Israel. Islam was established in Saudi Arabia but some of its holiest sites are in the Land of Israel. Israel also has the holy sites of other religions like Bahai and the Druze.

The religions established in these countries which got world recognition and have large number of followers outside these countries are minorities in these countries. Christianity is a minority in Israel with about 2% followers and Buddhism is a minority in India with less than 1% followers, but both these religions have in general more followers worldwide than in their land of birth. In both these countries Islam is the largest minority. In both these countries some of the holiest sites of the dominant religions, Judaism in Israel and Hinduism in India, are now Muslim mosques.

Both the dominant religions are as ancient as 5000 years old and influenced the establishment of other religions. The followers of both these religions believe their religion is the cradle of the whole human culture. These are the only great religions, which had not force their religion on others by coercion or conversion.

Both the countries, especially their dominant religions, are multi-ethnic and have many differences between the different communities. Even so these countries have established a national ethos among its citizens which got its boost mostly because of their problems with neighboring countries.

Both countries never had a single local continuous ruler. The lands of these countries always fascinated foreigners, India because of its spices and Israel because of its holiness. Both countries had many foreign invaders, conquerors and settlers all claiming it to be theirs. The histories of both these countries are sequences of different conquerors who arrived there from different parts of the world.

Both these countries before independence were under British control. The freedom fighters of both these countries can be divided into two groups who were political rivals of each other. In both these countries the freedom fighters who received the management of the country tried to suppress the other group after independence. Both these countries were the only countries, which were established after World War II and adopted the democratic system and remained democratic since then.

Both these countries during independence were in total chaos and people were leaving and arriving in these countries. In India a large Muslim population left India for Pakistan while Hindus and Sikhs arrived in India. In Israel a large Muslim population left Israel and many Jews arrived from Muslim countries within a short period.

Both these countries since their independence had wars with their neighbors over the border issue. India had wars with Pakistan and China and its borders with these countries are disputed. Israel had wars with Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan and its borders aren't clear yet. India, when created, had Pakistan flanked on both its sides. Today Israel has the Palestinian entity flanked on both its sides.

Both these countries had important political leaders assassinated after being blamed as traitors. In 1948 Mahatma Gandhi was assassinated in India because his assassin saw in Mahatma Gandhi responsible for all the violent acts which occurred in India against Hindus and because India was partitioned and parts of India became a Muslim country, Pakistan. In 1995 Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated in Israel because his assassin saw him responsible for the terrorist acts in which many Jews died and also because Rabin was giving the Palestinians what is considered to be the Land of Israel.
 
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Found out an interesting site for Indians and Israel foreign ministries.

I can understand why the website is in Hindi but why is it in urdu also..... Because people do speak urdu in India but people actually writing urdu as arabic manuscript are very low....

Israel Embassy
 
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India and Israel are two different countries. India is one of the largest countries in the world easily pointed out in world atlas while Israel, on the other hand, is a very small country and can hardly be pointed out in world atlas. India is one of the poorest countries in the world with a very low per capita income, while Israel is among the top 20 in per capita income index. Two countries distance from each other but still have many similarities.

In both these countries religions were established, some of which have among the largest number of followers in the world. Both these countries have many holy sites, which are among the holiest for their followers. In India, Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism were established. The holiest sites of these religions exist in India. In Israel, Judaism and Christianity were established. The holiest sites of these religions exist in Israel. Islam was established in Saudi Arabia but some of its holiest sites are in the Land of Israel. Israel also has the holy sites of other religions like Bahai and the Druze.

The religions established in these countries which got world recognition and have large number of followers outside these countries are minorities in these countries. Christianity is a minority in Israel with about 2% followers and Buddhism is a minority in India with less than 1% followers, but both these religions have in general more followers worldwide than in their land of birth. In both these countries Islam is the largest minority. In both these countries some of the holiest sites of the dominant religions, Judaism in Israel and Hinduism in India, are now Muslim mosques.

Both the dominant religions are as ancient as 5000 years old and influenced the establishment of other religions. The followers of both these religions believe their religion is the cradle of the whole human culture. These are the only great religions, which had not force their religion on others by coercion or conversion.

Both the countries, especially their dominant religions, are multi-ethnic and have many differences between the different communities. Even so these countries have established a national ethos among its citizens which got its boost mostly because of their problems with neighboring countries.

Both countries never had a single local continuous ruler. The lands of these countries always fascinated foreigners, India because of its spices and Israel because of its holiness. Both countries had many foreign invaders, conquerors and settlers all claiming it to be theirs. The histories of both these countries are sequences of different conquerors who arrived there from different parts of the world.

Both these countries before independence were under British control. The freedom fighters of both these countries can be divided into two groups who were political rivals of each other. In both these countries the freedom fighters who received the management of the country tried to suppress the other group after independence. Both these countries were the only countries, which were established after World War II and adopted the democratic system and remained democratic since then.

Both these countries during independence were in total chaos and people were leaving and arriving in these countries. In India a large Muslim population left India for Pakistan while Hindus and Sikhs arrived in India. In Israel a large Muslim population left Israel and many Jews arrived from Muslim countries within a short period.

Both these countries since their independence had wars with their neighbors over the border issue. India had wars with Pakistan and China and its borders with these countries are disputed. Israel had wars with Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan and its borders aren't clear yet. India, when created, had Pakistan flanked on both its sides. Today Israel has the Palestinian entity flanked on both its sides.

Both these countries had important political leaders assassinated after being blamed as traitors. In 1948 Mahatma Gandhi was assassinated in India because his assassin saw in Mahatma Gandhi responsible for all the violent acts which occurred in India against Hindus and because India was partitioned and parts of India became a Muslim country, Pakistan. In 1995 Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated in Israel because his assassin saw him responsible for the terrorist acts in which many Jews died and also because Rabin was giving the Palestinians what is considered to be the Land of Israel.

Sir, I fail to understand what your point is.
I mean this all looks ok but what is the purpose of posting of this article. I can argue about similiarity between India and Pakistan as well. But again what is the point?
And I am fearing that this would start a flame with some really intellectual posts.:p:P
 
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Sir, I fail to understand what your point is.
I mean this all looks ok but what is the purpose of posting of this article. I can argue about similiarity between India and Pakistan as well. But again what is the point?
And I am fearing that this would start a flame with some really intellectual posts.:p:P

No flame intended.... The purpose was to make people understand that there are similarities in Indian and Israel coming together when they just look like just 2 nations which do not have any link. What is the binding force for them. What drives them to be as partners.

I am still not able to figure our why the hell Israel embassy website is in Urdu????? Urdu is hardly written in India though Hindustani has some words from Urdu but it is written in devnagari. They might have preferred some other Indian language.
 
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No flame intended.... The purpose was to make people understand that there are similarities in Indian and Israel coming together when they just look like just 2 nations which do not have any link. What is the binding force for them. What drives them to be as partners.

Well, yes there are similarities and differences as well. As far as coming together is concerned, it is pure business, geopolitics or both. India is having good relations with Palestine as well. So i do not read too much into this.

I am still not able to figure our why the hell Israel embassy website is in Urdu????? Urdu is hardly written in India though Hindustani has some words from Urdu but it is written in devnagari. They might have preferred some other Indian language.

I did not know that Israel site has Urdu in it. But I think it is related to ME countries. I do not think India has anything to do with this.
 
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Well, yes there are similarities and differences as well. As far as coming together is concerned, it is pure business, geopolitics or both. India is having good relations with Palestine as well. So i do not read too much into this.



I did not know that Israel site has Urdu in it. But I think it is related to ME countries. I do not think India has anything to do with this.

That site is meant for Israel Embassy in India.
Check the link
Israel Embassy

It is in just 2 languages
Hindi
Urdu
 
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I can't read Urdu so I am unable to figure out the script. But it is strange. I can not think of any logical reason why it is in Arabic script.

But this has nothing to do with the thread title.
 
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I can't read Urdu so I am unable to figure out the script. But it is strange. I can not think of any logical reason why it is in Arabic script.

But this has nothing to do with the thread title.

yes even I cant there is an option for Hindi on the top.

Sorry for being offtopic.
 
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No flame intended.... The purpose was to make people understand that there are similarities in Indian and Israel coming together when they just look like just 2 nations which do not have any link. What is the binding force for them. What drives them to be as partners.

Business and strategic points like Pakistan.
 
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Most of these similarities are so broad they can be applied to any country although valid.

Infact there are some similarities between Israel and Pakistan as well

Israel and Pakistan are the top two recipients of American aid including military aid.

Both have drawn heavily on US and UK support to counter UN resolutions against them

Both countries came into being as per a partition plan from British dominion areas in India and Jordan

Both claim religion as a basis of their statehood Israel - Judaism and Pakistan -Islam

Both have very active intelligence agencies both domestically and internationally i.e. Mossad and ISI


But there are a few main differences between India and Israel
Israel is a Jewish country as per its constitution, India is secular.

Majority of Israelis follow Judaism an Abrahmic faith while majority of Indians follow Dharmic faiths

Majority of settled Israelis are of European and Russian stock. Majority of Indians are of native ethnic stock

India does not indulge in widespread human rights violation like Israel has done in Gaza

A comparison some people make is Kashmir and palestine. In Kashmir, the people are regarded as Indians and provided full democratic rights to govern themselves and send their representatives to the central parliament. While Israel denies Gaza and West bank Palestinians as part of its country and does not allow them to exercise their democratic rights even after trying to elect their representatives

India has burgeoning trade and diplomatic relations with Iran and all ME countries while Israel at the moment has relations with only few.
 
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No flame intended.... The purpose was to make people understand that there are similarities in Indian and Israel coming together when they just look like just 2 nations which do not have any link. What is the binding force for them. What drives them to be as partners.
Till the early 90s India did not even have diplomatic relations with Israel. However, after the fall of the USSR, India had to quickly look around and find from where it could get high tech weapons and intelligence. American realtions were not that good. Israel was the only option and Israeli technology draws heavily from American tech. With Israeli Americans facilitating this.

India ha to counter Pakistani military tech from America and China and Israel was the best option. IMO India should continue defense co-operations and work particularly on ToT to get this technology particular reconnaissance and steal technology.

Moreover, India can maybe in the future help out as a mediator between Arab countries and Israel as India develops good relations with all.

I am still not able to figure our why the hell Israel embassy website is in Urdu????? Urdu is hardly written in India though Hindustani has some words from Urdu but it is written in devnagari. They might have preferred some other Indian language.

Well Urdu is the state language of J&K and widely spoken among Indian muslims (51M native speakers in India out of 60M worldwide). It is part of the recognised langauge list in the constitution and one of the Indian languages.
It looks like Israel is trying to reach out to Indian muslims as well. Although most of them can read Hindi, it shows that they are paying an extra effort to reach out to Indian muslims. I think Urdu and Hindi has been in use for 2-3 years now.

I do know that Indian Muslim leaders have been visiting Israel as part of the inter-faith dialogue and to promote better relations between Israelis and muslims in general in the backdrop of violence. So even though a small effort, I think it should be appreciated.

Indian Muslim Leaders Praise Israel During Official Visit - Inside Israel - Israel News - Israel National News
 
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