India abandons UN Security Council seat ambitions

[Malik Usman]

India abandons UN Security Council seat ambitions – The Express Tribune

 

[somebozo]

Looks like the propoganda effect is wearing out for India..first NSG now UNSC??
India super power, India world power..now dreams turning into deflated baloon !

 

[pari.mehta]

"Looks like the propoganda effect is wearing out for India..first NSG not UNSC??
India super power, India world power..now dreams turning into deflated baloon ! "

You are dreaming. India can get its geo political objectives achieved one way or another. The political capital that would be required would rather be spent getting terrorist scum killed in pak via US drones.

If we dont get a UNSC seat, it dosen't weaken us, it weakens the legitimacy of the UNSC. Well still be the 3rd largest economy and a global power soon. UNSC is a charade and you know it too.

Sorry to burst your bubble

 

[angeldemon_007]

If thats true then we should start conducting test which we are feared would cause international outrage like ASAT, ICBM like Surya etc.

 

[Jon Snow]

dont think its true..... Just last year we had all the permenant members in india saying they support our bid..... Still this is a long process and will probably take about 7-8 years in the best of circumstances

 

[lem34]

I think that India with its population etc has more right than uk france to a permanent security council seat. However India should first peacefully resolve its border issues with pakistan china etc and then go for sec seat.

 

[GORKHALI]

I think that India with its population etc has more right than uk france to a permanent security council seat. However India should first peacefully resolve its border issues with pakistan china etc and then go for sec seat.

Don't worry we gonna snatch the seat or make one for us and in the mean time we guys are talking about- how peace prevails rite ?? Multitasking at its best

 

[Patrician]

There should be a 'Musical Chair' competition for UNSC seats. Let everyone have a fair chance.

 

[JanjaWeed]

this whole P5 concept is flawed to start with. How can five powerful nations decide fate of rest of the world? This permanent members concept with veto power won't long last. things will change just like the way G5 is now G20.

 

[American Pakistani]

"Looks like the propoganda effect is wearing out for India..first NSG not UNSC??
India super power, India world power..now dreams turning into deflated baloon ! "

You are dreaming. India can get its geo political objectives achieved one way or another. The political capital that would be required would rather be spent getting terrorist scum killed in pak via US drones.

If we dont get a UNSC seat, it dosen't weaken us, it weakens the legitimacy of the UNSC. Well still be the 3rd largest economy and a global power soon. UNSC is a charade and you know it too.

Sorry to burst your bubble

Yea Yea, but wait a minute, weren't you guys so desperate to get that seat, what happened? When you guys didn't get than grapes became sour?

And BTW Sorry to burst your bubble too....

 

[VelocuR]

neutral source:
India dump the mission of Permanent Seat on the UN Security Council

According to latest BBC News reports concentrated six-year fight by India and three other candidates for a permanent seat on the Security Council of the United Nations, Brazil, Germany and Japan have failed for lack of support among Member States, and has even led to divisions in the group called the Four.

The collapse of the unit G-4 for permanent membership on the board main body in the world is evident in his recent letter to Assembly President, Joseph Deiss, and asked him to take charge of the intergovernmental negotiations on Council reform 15 members, a process that had been dropped and continued to circulate a resolution to expand the category of permanent and nonpermanent members.

However, the resolution, the G-4 had to be cut below their targets, won in his own words, with the promise of 80 or even a simple majority in the Assembly of 192 members in 128 votes, the most two thirds is required.

Critics of the G-4 said that since the resolution has not been tested on the floor of the Assembly, but his request of 80 Member States, as mentioned in paragraph G-4, could be a little exaggeration.

“This (claim 80), is an admission of defeat, to say the least, a shocking blow to their ambitions,” one European diplomat.

“It is clear that the reform model advocated by the G-4 is not acceptable to Member States.” Four months ago, G-4 has opted out of inter-governmental negotiations; said talks n has made no progress.

The G-4 has emphasized the need for Council reform, which reduced almost to a simple extension of the categories and ignoring other important issues, such as working methods, the veto, regional representation and relations between the General Assembly and Security Council.

During this period, representatives of the G-4, especially India, has almost gone door to door to convince a support for his resolution that would open the door to the category of permanent and nonpermanent members.

The Security Council currently has five permanent veto-wielding members Britain, China, France, Russia and the United States and 10 non-permanent members elected for two years at a time.

Although a general agreement to expand the Council, in the process of reforming the United Nations, Member States are still sharply divided into the details, many of which are attached to their position.

In fact, the General Assembly President said there was little chance of reforming the Security Council in the near future, unless the groups firmly attached to their positions to forge a compromise on the issue at least temporarily.

Probably it is not possible to actually find a solution where one of these groups have all their wishes, said President Deiss.

Experts see the G-4 to appeal for negotiations to re-inter-governmental, in which Italy / Pakistan led Uniting for Consensus (UFC) is a major player, proof that their campaign to give the membership Permanent Council, at least for now.

Although their (G-4) action, they created an impasse for four months.

“It’s like going back to the procedure they had killed,” said one analyst. Thus, India and other group members were isolated.

The letter G-4, said: “We reiterate our full support to the process of intergovernmental negotiations. We hope to work constructively and in a spirit of flexibility with the other Member States to realize that an urgent reform of the Security Council.”

Shortly before the June 23 letter, a major Japanese newspaper also reported that the G-4 draft resolution did not “have made much progress in support of the votes.”

Therefore, the lines of division G-4 is still present, India is trying to lead the group.

An article published in Japanese newspapers Manicichi Shinbun note that the G-4 has started to abandon its initiative to bring resolution to a vote in the Assembly, because the chances of getting 128 votes is slim.

The article says that the UFC was held in Rome, where 120 different countries, while countries that support the current G-4 proposal for a number of 70-80.

According to Latest BBC News reports the Government officials said that at the meeting of June 6 G-4 New Delhi, Japan and Germany wanted to discuss the next steps appear to compromise, but India and Brazil would continue to press for resolution.

UFC group supports the consensus on the reform of the Council voting instead of division. The group also opposes the permanent members, but seeks the enlargement to 10 non-permanent categories, in which new members are elected for two years at a time, as well as the possibility of immediate re-election.

 

[Peshwa]

Unless we hear from the GOI or another credible source that says that India has abandoned its mission to reform the UNSC, this report remains a speculation...

Popping the bubbly pre-maturely is fast becoming a habit for many on this forum.....

 

[Patrician]

Unless we hear from the GOI of India or another credible source that says that India has abandoned its mission to reform the UNSC, this report remains a speculation...

Popping the bubbly pre-maturely is fast becoming a habit for many on this forum.....

At most it could mean that the joint effort, namely, G-4, has collapsed.

How the hell does it mean that India has 'abandoned' its cause?

...but then 'fanboys' and 'critical reasoning' are mutually repulsive, aren't they?

 

[conworldus]

India is not even a top 5 economy in the world. Don't give me the PPP BS. A dollar is a dollar anywhere it goes

 

[Peshwa]

India is not even a top 5 economy in the world. Don't give me the PPP BS. A dollar is a dollar anywhere it goes

Is there a list of criteria that has been defined to gain entry as a UNSC permanent member? If so, please provide a link....

You seem pretty sure that size of the economy is the main factor even though Japan seems to be in the same boat as us...