i dont get it 
Actually , the thread is not about my or your mental condition , its about how seriously Mr moodi thinks to make IAF flying tiranga in the skies ?
Sure , sukhoi has sold , itself to INDIA ?lolzzPlease get your self Updated 19 LCA's of IOC-2 Configuration are Already in Serial production of which SP-1 ,SP-2 Already roll-out this year only. Separate 20 more will go to Serial production after FOC
Kid Su-30MKI contains not only Russian, French, South African and Israeli Customer Furnished Equipment (CFE), but also a substantial percentage of Indian designed and manufactured avionics.
The following are the components developed by Indian agencies:
Hal time to time upgrade MKI to meet Future combat requirements Such Like Adding Brahmos Firing Capability to MKI
- Mission Computer cum Display Processor - MC-486 and DP-30MK (Defence Avionics Research Establishment - DARE)
- Radar Computer - RC1 and RC2 (DARE)
- Tarang Mk2 Radar Warning Receiver (RWR) + High Accuracy Direction Finding Module (HADF) (DARE
- IFF-1410A - Identification Friend or Foe (IFF)
- Integrated Communication suite INCOM 1210A (HAL)
- Radar Altimeter - RAM-1701 (HAL)
- Programmable Signal Processor (PSP) - (LRDE)
- Multi Function Displays (MFD) - Samtel/DARE
I just love competition , it seriously not looks good that IAF is going down without a single bullet been fired by us ?
but what is your problem
you bieng a pakistani should in fact be happy about it as one day it will be used against your nation but most of pakistanies seem to be too worried as of why isnt india buying the so called latest and cutting edge technology
what is that attitude of yours .... mulk dushmani towards pakistan or love for indian defnce
Make it 150 & then whole IAF would be flying MARUTI,s instead even LCA ?lolzz
New Delhi/ Nagpur: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s forcing the Indian Air Force to include Tejas, light combat aircraft (LCA) under his ambitious scheme Make-in-India, will cause tremendous threat to Air Force, which is looking out for upgradation of its striking capacity and trying for acquisition of Rafale aircrafts from France’s Dassault Aviation SA, will prove dangerous, said media reports quoting Military Circles.
According to reports, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, will cause a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars. Tejas (LCA) is still in the struggling stage and its inclusion comes at a time when the Air Force is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within Military Circles.
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Modi government’s claim
But it has a different view point for Modi government. Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said that its overriding goal was to cut off the military’s addiction to foreign arms, which has made it the world’s top importer, sources said.
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The Air Force wanted the government to clear an additional squadron of 44 Rafale medium multi-role aircraft on top of the 36 that Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements. But, a Defence Ministry official said that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the Air Force that there weren’t enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenously manufactured Tejas-Mark 1A. “The IAF needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints,” the Defence official told the media, adding, “The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category.”
India’s Air Force says, its requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a “two-front collusive threat” from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, Parliament’s Defence Committee said in a report in April citing a presentation by a top Air Force officer. With the draw-down of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the Air Force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.
Cleared by the government in 1983, the LCA designed by the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994. Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world’s most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine. Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016. “In January this year, they had given one LCA … which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are,” said an Air Force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.
Safety Cocerns
An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA programme identified 53 “shortfalls” in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn’t as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety. Retired Air Marshal M Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defence Staff, said the LCA was obsolete. “It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today’s war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges.”
He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with. “We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind,” the head of the Air Force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.
But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO’s aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems. “Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues,” he said.
State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the Air Force’s demands, he said. “We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other – at blaming it all on Indian production.” Dassault declined any comment on the government’s decision to cap the Rafale fleet. A source close to Sweden’s Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India’s decision to try to develop its domestic military base.
“There’s still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella,” he said. “Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?”
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How do u know? What is baseless? Comparing the LCA and its features with Rafale as bench mark is unrealistic. The main purpose now is numbers for point defence which LCA can address.
With the latest BVR weapons in excess of 300km range, one doesn't need long range strike aircraft to penetrate into enemy airspace for weapon release. Tejas with AESA and BVR capabilities is good enough. It's suitable for CAPs over VAs/VPs too.
In any case it is no where a disaster for us, funny u should worry about which Mr Modi has not considered. It is quite hilarious that u laugh at this measure of self relience. AS far IAF it has more than enough inventory to take care of PAF in case of full scale war which is unlikely.
Uptill Now All your Post Have less Technical Arguments More Rants your Debating Skills are pretty low level.you are Dodging Questions when challenged on technical Points
New Delhi/ Nagpur: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s forcing the Indian Air Force to include Tejas, light combat aircraft (LCA) under his ambitious scheme Make-in-India, will cause tremendous threat to Air Force, which is looking out for upgradation of its striking capacity and trying for acquisition of Rafale aircrafts from France’s Dassault Aviation SA, will prove dangerous, said media reports quoting Military Circles.
According to reports, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, will cause a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars. Tejas (LCA) is still in the struggling stage and its inclusion comes at a time when the Air Force is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within Military Circles.
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Modi government’s claim
But it has a different view point for Modi government. Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said that its overriding goal was to cut off the military’s addiction to foreign arms, which has made it the world’s top importer, sources said.
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The Air Force wanted the government to clear an additional squadron of 44 Rafale medium multi-role aircraft on top of the 36 that Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements. But, a Defence Ministry official said that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the Air Force that there weren’t enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenously manufactured Tejas-Mark 1A. “The IAF needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints,” the Defence official told the media, adding, “The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category.”
India’s Air Force says, its requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a “two-front collusive threat” from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, Parliament’s Defence Committee said in a report in April citing a presentation by a top Air Force officer. With the draw-down of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the Air Force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.
Cleared by the government in 1983, the LCA designed by the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994. Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world’s most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine. Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016. “In January this year, they had given one LCA … which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are,” said an Air Force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.
Safety Cocerns
An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA programme identified 53 “shortfalls” in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn’t as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety. Retired Air Marshal M Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defence Staff, said the LCA was obsolete. “It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today’s war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges.”
He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with. “We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind,” the head of the Air Force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.
But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO’s aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems. “Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues,” he said.
State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the Air Force’s demands, he said. “We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other – at blaming it all on Indian production.” Dassault declined any comment on the government’s decision to cap the Rafale fleet. A source close to Sweden’s Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India’s decision to try to develop its domestic military base.
“There’s still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella,” he said. “Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?”
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