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Inclusion of Tejas (LCA) will further weaken IAF: Military Circles

Listen to your media !lolzzz
Just remember one thing , our military establishment mostly never open full of its capabilities to anyone ,let alone kamra ?lolzz
You need to ask this question to Chinese ?lol
But answer remain same , LCA the paper drawings can't be compared with a fighting performing jet like JFT ?
That's the basics !lolzz


We are happy that , your tea boy is cutting you short with a drawing which never can become reality ?:omghaha:

We have seen your full capability in kargil and in your Tanks , when your So called world No 1 Tank as stopped after 500 no's and its improved version found to be useless and you are forced to look into foreign tanks.

Our 2nd world war Sherman tanks destroyed PAK advance Paton tanks lol

Did you JFT can fire bullets and LGB's???, that is called paper plane OR a trainer plane, Trainer plane can do the same job which JFT can do. lol
 
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We have seen your full capability in kargil and in your Tanks , when your So called world No 1 Tank as stopped after 500 no's and its improved version found to be useless and you are forced to look into foreign tanks.

Did you JFT can fire bullets and LGB's???
Check the clip I posted before , & get astonished !lolzz
In kargill no tanks were used , I'm the proud Pakistani who did took part in kargill .
 
Check the clip I posted before , & get astonished !lolzz
In kargill no tanks were used , I'm the proud Pakistani who did take part in kargill .
lol .... some India media also said India can destroy PAK in 30 mins , ( wow , you are so believe in media , also believe in this 30 mins ?)

All this is for some entertainment , dont take it seriously , take seriously which happens on ground.
 
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New Delhi/ Nagpur: Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s forcing the Indian Air Force to include Tejas, light combat aircraft (LCA) under his ambitious scheme Make-in-India, will cause tremendous threat to Air Force, which is looking out for upgradation of its striking capacity and trying for acquisition of Rafale aircrafts from France’s Dassault Aviation SA, will prove dangerous, said media reports quoting Military Circles.
According to reports, Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s decision, in line with his Make-in-India policy to encourage domestic industry, will cause a blow for not only the French manufacturer but also others circling over the Indian military aviation market worth billions of dollars. Tejas (LCA) is still in the struggling stage and its inclusion comes at a time when the Air Force is at its weakest operational strength since the 1962 war against China, which is causing anxiety within Military Circles.

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Modi government’s claim

But it has a different view point for Modi government. Since it took over last year, the Modi administration has repeatedly said that its overriding goal was to cut off the military’s addiction to foreign arms, which has made it the world’s top importer, sources said.

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The Air Force wanted the government to clear an additional squadron of 44 Rafale medium multi-role aircraft on top of the 36 that Modi announced during a visit to Paris this year that are to be bought off-the-shelf to meet its urgent requirements. But, a Defence Ministry official said that Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had told the Air Force that there weren’t enough funds to expand the Rafale acquisition and that it must induct an improved version of the indigenously manufactured Tejas-Mark 1A. “The IAF needs to have a minimum number of aircraft at all times. The LCA is our best option at this stage, given our resource constraints,” the Defence official told the media, adding, “The Rafale is our most expensive acquisition. The LCA is our cheapest in the combat category.”

India’s Air Force says, its requires 45 fighter squadrons to counter a “two-front collusive threat” from Pakistan and China. But it only has 35 active fighter squadrons, Parliament’s Defence Committee said in a report in April citing a presentation by a top Air Force officer. With the draw-down of Soviet-era MiG 21 planes under way, the Air Force would be down to 25 squadrons by 2022 at the current pace of acquisitions, it told the committee.

Cleared by the government in 1983, the LCA designed by the government’s Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was meant to be the backbone of the air force due for induction in 1994. Instead, it suffered years of delay and chaos with scientists trying to build the world’s most modern light combat aircraft from scratch, including the engine. Eventually they scrapped the engine, turning to GE Aviation and lowering their ambitions for a state-of-the-art fighter. So far, only one aircraft has been produced and even that is awaiting final operational clearance, now delayed to early 2016. “In January this year, they had given one LCA … which had not completed its flight testing. They handed over the papers to us. We do not make a squadron with one aeroplane. That is where we are,” said an Air Force officer speaking on condition of anonymity.

Safety Cocerns
An independent investigation by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India into the LCA programme identified 53 “shortfalls” in the plane. In a report in May, the auditor said that the plane wasn’t as light as promised, the fuel capacity and speed were lower than required and there were concerns about safety. Retired Air Marshal M Matheswaran, a former deputy chief of the Integrated Defence Staff, said the LCA was obsolete. “It is a very short-range aircraft which has no relevance in today’s war fighting scenarios. If you are trying to justify this as a replacement for follow-on Rafales, you are comparing apples with oranges.”

He said the plane was at best a technology demonstrator on which Indian engineers could build the next series of aircraft, not something the air force could win a war with. “We would like to have the MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) variety of aircraft. At least about six squadrons, to my mind,” the head of the Air Force, Arup Raha, said at the weekend, referring to the Rafale class of fighters.

But K. Tamilmani, the DRDO’s aerospace chief, said the modified version of the Tejas addressed most of the air force concerns. These included electronic warfare system, flight computer, radar and maintenance problems. “Almost all the problems get solved with the 1A. There will always be scope for improvement, but there are no flight safety issues,” he said.

State-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited would be able to ramp production to 16 a year by 2017 to meet the Air Force’s demands, he said. “We Indians are extremely good at blaming each other – at blaming it all on Indian production.” Dassault declined any comment on the government’s decision to cap the Rafale fleet. A source close to Sweden’s Saab, which has been pushing its Gripen light fighter, said that it was respectful of India’s decision to try to develop its domestic military base.

“There’s still a huge gap that needs to be filled. We are marketing it (the Gripen) under the Make-in-India umbrella,” he said. “Even if you add the seven squadrons of the Tejas, there is still a requirement (with MiGs retiring etc). It’s a question of timing. Can they build these for when they need them?”

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I do not get it, how operating Mig 21 is weaking Airforce and inducting a more capable plane will jeopradize IAF fighting capability!!

If IAFhave had spent enough time an dadapted Tajes a decade ago it would have been a mature plateform by now.
If ADA has scrwed the project, IAF is /was also partner in crime.

It's high time IAF should coloborate closly and make necessay change/ improvements in war front.. and we'll see an excellen world class fighter in big number in no time.
 
lol .... some India media also said India can destroy PAK in 30 mins , ( wow , you are so believe in media , also believe in this 30 mins ?)

All this is for some entertainment , dont take it seriously , take seriously which happens on ground.
Sure some day , moodi jee will stop every dam military activity in India just for entertainment ?lolzz
 
Sure some day , moodi jee will stop every dam military activity in India just for entertainment ?lolzz
lol, no but Indian media will keep on entertain us , epically PAK which always dreams of .......I would love to watch when PAK superior tanks patron was destroyed by recoilless gun and vintage sherman tanks........

So even out paper tiger plane can bring down your best planes..... history always repeat itself.
 
lol, no but Indian media will keep on entertain us , epically PAK which always dreams of .......I would love to watch when PAK superior tanks patron was destroyed by recoilless gun and vintage sherman tanks........

So even out paper tiger plane can bring down your best planes..... history always repeat itself.
After 16 years of so much investment & efforts where is dam LCA ?lolzz
No where ?
Cause every year they say next year ?lolZ
 
After 16 years of so much investment & efforts where is dam LCA ?lolzz
No where ?
Cause every year they say next year ?lolZ
lol, even all modern plane taken this time, and production already started ....lol and also the upgrades. we called major upgrades not like JFT , which called software upgrade and called BL=II.

Yes investment is worth it and will give benefit in future just like out ship building program.
 
lol, even all modern plane taken this time, and production already started ....lol and also the upgrades. we called major upgrades not like JFT , which called software upgrade and called BL=II.

Yes investment is worth it and will give benefit in future just like out ship building program.
Oh really , where is it ?lolzz
I.mean your LCA even not been inducted in IAF how it can be upgraded ,if it doesnt even has its presence ?lolz
& all of this upgrades & this & that we are hearing since past 14 years ?
but still not a single sqdrns in IAF , explains a lot ?lolzz
 

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