In the line of fire

[Dubious]

Whatever the cause it is disgusting...I wonder how these idiots who shoot such workers feel when they beget a child with polio...What do they do? Shoot the child?!

 

[Safriz]

Seriously ?? And you are a Jr.TT, damn.

well i am much more active than you..So i win

I wonder why there were no such attacks before OBL raid if money was the or is the reason as you mentioned?? Reason being polio vaccination was used as a tool to try to track down OBL or may be others, so now militants fear if such method was used before, it may be used again or is being used, thus they are attacking to not let these workers reach areas where possibility of some high value target is.

Its simply a payback, thanks to the Americans using vaccination scheme as one of their spying tool, and all these workers getting killed due to the Americans.

Yes,i missed that bit...
But saying that,instead ob Branding all this a Pure "Mozlamic problem"...Its plain Paranoia and the distrust USA has created in Pakistan that is to be blamed..
Nobody wants Choppers to raid their hose or Village or area because some polio worker was indeed a Spy and reported the House/Person?village to CIA for Drone attack..
Its the fear that is in play...

 

[Secur]

I wonder why there were no such attacks before OBL raid if money was the or is the reason as you mentioned?? Reason being polio vaccination was used as a tool to try to track down OBL or may be others, so now militants fear if such method was used before, it may be used again or is being used, thus they are attacking to not let these workers reach areas where possibility of some high value target is.

Its simply a payback, thanks to the Americans using vaccination scheme as one of their spying tool, and all these workers getting killed due to the Americans.

Well , the polio vaccinations have been banned long before that in the tribal areas when they were in Taliban control so it isn't really the sole cause as you are trying to say before the forces operation in those areas . Even though , I agree that the Dr.Shakeel Afridi episode was exploited to the full extent by the extremists again . But that is not the complete story , sir , not really . I mentioned a certain problem of highly radicalized society by mentioning my own city first - I said that the locals supported the attackers whilst refusing to get their children vaccinated . That was all over T.V. But the story about ' Jewish medicines ' making their children impotent in hardwired into their minds . They are now believing that the vaccinations would bring the disease and not eradicate it . There are whole books by radicals on that subject exaggerating the cases in which the vaccinations caused some side effects - true for every single drug you take , nothing as serious as getting your children handicapped for the rest of the life though . That mindset , sir , is the real problem . Not the militants supported by the radicalized society whilst the rationals maintain their silence because of fear .

I remember how you debunked that ' girl's school are targeted because Pakistan army was using it ' by mentioning that ' only a few of the times they were used and it is not the case today ' . Apply the same here , too .

 

[Secur]

there was same issue with Iodized salt as well which the Mullah declared as haram because it was meant to make Muslims sterile & impotent.

May I add , the Wall's Ice cream , KFC's chicken , PEPSI * Pay Each Penny to Save Israel * , Coke * No Muhammed No Mecca when the logo is read from a mirror * and Mcdonald's Burger to name a few ?

 

[Secur]

Now, we have transitioned to terrorism and acts of terror where the political goals themselves are the pretext. There seems to be no clarity of strategic purpose or motive in such acts despite popular opinions to the contrary but rather a broad-band whim to rush towards plain and simple anarchy. In acts such as this, which have become the main thread in the tapestry of violence that plagues Pakistan religious fundamentalism, social rigidity and taboos and the extremist ideology have become the cause but the further propagation of these maladies itself has become the ultimate goal too. It is killing for the sake of ensuring that further killings shall take place.

In short- THIS is what truly represents a mindless frenzy.

Now , the acts are without meaning and the ideology is devoid of logic . Something , which cant be explained and understood . A total lack of short term and long term aims and objectives . How does one explain the ' beheading of the soldiers ' , ' mutilation of their bodies ' , ' banning of vaccinations and discouraging the use of drugs ' , ' restricting freedom ' or ' killing everyone just because his certain acts were considered ' unIslamic ' by someone even though he was one of them ' ? The only apparent goal is ' chaos , ' doubt ' , ' uncertainty ' , ' lawlessness ' and ' killing for the sake for future continuity of it ' with nothing for even extremists themselves .

A mindless frenzy but maybe something like ' strategic objectives ' at the top Mullah brass thought to be achieved somewhere in the future , not that we can see it in their actions .

 

[Dillinger]

Now , the acts are without meaning and the ideology is devoid of logic . Something , which cant be explained and understood . A total lack of short term and long term aims and objectives . How does one explain the ' beheading of the soldiers ' , ' mutilation of their bodies ' , ' banning of vaccinations and discouraging the use of drugs ' , ' restricting freedom ' or ' killing everyone just because his certain acts were considered ' unIslamic ' by someone even though he was one of them ' ? The only apparent goal is ' chaos , ' doubt ' , ' uncertainty ' , ' lawlessness ' and ' killing for the sake for future continuity of it ' with nothing for even extremists themselves .

A mindless frenzy but maybe something like ' strategic objectives ' at the top Mullah brass thought to be achieved somewhere in the future , not that we can see it in their actions .

See in any organisation there is a command structure.

But in the case of these extremists there are several factors that muddy the whole picture.

While the taliban has a declared supreme leader and so do other terrorist organisations they sill follow a somewhat decentralized schema.

This leads to a rather curious issue. In any other organisation the grunts do know what objectives their actions are contributing towards. Let us be clear though, they know the objectives but cannot effect it as such other than by abstaining from acting. In the case of these terrorist orgs. while the leadership may definitely have objectives and an overreaching strategy to achieve said objectives but the grunts seem to be completely unaware of it. This is where indoctrination comes in. In the absence of any knowledge whatsoever of said objectives the grunt needs an alternative driving force and thus enters the Mullah in to the picture.

There are ways to tackle this, in fact the lack of any knowledge of the real strategic objectives among the grunts provides a unique opportunity. Primarily by repeatedly targeting the leadership. Attrition in itself is not "bad" for the sate in real terms, it is bad in terms of the harm it causes to a certain portion of the populace. If said attrition is one step in a whole slew of steps which will be followed through in pursuit of a goal then it becomes truly threatening. But attrition for the sake of attrition can only harm the populace and never the sate itself. Try to understand that I am talking in terms of semantically delineating the state and the citizenry. The state of Pakistan itself isn't going anywhere regardless of how many casualties occur. If the leadership is killed then while the grunts can continue causing casualties, the loss of theater wide initiative will render it into an act of mindless murder in real terms- as opposed to us terming it as such out of outrage. Such mindless acts which will then contribute nothing to any strategy to harm the state in the broader sense then become relatively less dangerous. We have done the same with our Maoists. I can prattle of a whole list of their top leaders, irreplaceable men, who have been terminated. Now the Maoists can continue causing attrition as they have just recently but the loss of the leadership and the resultant loss of strategic initiative has ensured that all such actions have been turned into a law and order scenario rather than a sophisticated war against the state itself (which maoism very much was even 4 or so years back). Let us be cognizant of the fact though that these actions will in no way stem casualties and the resultant acrimony of the populace towards their own leaders. A solution to that (casualties and attrition itself) will require a different and even more rigorous scheme which will have to be implemented without pause after taking out the leadership,

 

[Zarvan]

AT the young age of 18, Sharafata had already attained the attributes of a quintessential Pakhtun woman born and bred in rural Peshawar. Of course she knew of the threat that her job entailed, but in her decision to eschew security while administering the polio vaccine to children she was guided solely by her natural fearlessness and audacity.

‘No one can dare touch me’ is how Sharafata must have reacted to the words of caution from her family while going out on her mission in her traditional all-enveloping burqa on the fateful day of May 28 — the day she was gunned down.

Sharafata and her companion Sumbal, who belonged to the same community, had not reckoned to what depths their cowardly and soulless assailants could stoop when the latter opened fire without even challenging the two girls who were armed only with vaccines against a deadly ailment.

Sharafata died on the spot while Sumbal lived with her grievous wounds for some days more before expiring on June 8 at the trauma centre in Lady Reading Hospital Peshawar. Sharafata did not live to hear her wedding bells that were only weeks away while Sumbal left behind a large family of five sisters and several young brothers to mourn not only their beloved sibling but also their breadwinner.

Attacks on polio workers across the predominantly Pakhtun-inhabited areas in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have attracted attention across the world. Bill Gates is also said to have spoken to the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf chairman Imran Khan urging him to contribute to the cause of eradicating polio from the planet.

But that approach unfortunately does not appear to work. It would take much more than asking individuals, howsoever influential they might be, to intercede as the damage done to the polity appears to be immense.

Before Sharafata and Sumbal fell thus, six female polio workers were killed in cold blood on a side road of the Peshawar-Islamabad motorway near Swabi. Many other women were targeted and killed in Charsadda and Peshawar in hit-and-run incidents reported widely by the national and international media.

The dawn of the present millennium has seen many catastrophes in Pakhtun lands, the worst being the use of children as suicide bombers and the treating of women as legitimate targets in the internecine war bearing visible marks of religious frenzy.

The long-held popular belief that women and children were outside the ambit of hostilities raging among the Pakhtuns is now questionable in the much-celebrated, centuries-old Pakhtun code of ethics.

‘A Pakhtun must defend the honour of women at all costs and must protect them from vocal and physical harm’ so demands the tenet of namus in the code of life called Pakhtunwali or Pashtunwali and practised not only by Pakhtuns but also by those living alongside them in the Pakhtun areas. The day Sharafata was killed and when other polio workers were exterminated, not a leaf moved nor were the Pakhtuns as a self-respecting polity seen decrying the tragic turn of events.

On the contrary, as is the norm these days in a vastly desensitised society, it was quite heart-wrenching to hear people attributing sinister motives to the ongoing anti-polio campaign.

“Who knows, these girls might have been working for the CIA,” a heartless young man from the Khyber Agency remarked when his attention was drawn to the brutal incidents involving the killing of women in the Pakhtun communities.

It appeared that the highly educated young tribesman, who was himself on the run from the embattled Khyber Agency, was merely echoing the viewpoint of the society at large — a society that by not registering even a feeble protest has lent strength to the perpetrators of these unforgivable crimes.

The world appears to be waking up to injustices. Despotic regimes have been forced to bite the dust in the Middle East by people who were once considered to be in a slumber. The death of a fruit vendor in Tunisia triggered a revolution whereas plans to level a small park in Istanbul have stirred an uprising that has the all-too-familiar stamp of discontent fomented by whimsical decisions.

In KP and the adjoining tribal areas dozens of groups acting in the fashion of private armies have ripped the area apart, killing and maiming people without any compunction. People partly out of fear and partly out of callous disregard for human life have assumed an eerie silence.

The unknown, unarmed victims of drone strikes are lucky to the extent that so many people across the world are speaking for them these days. Some lobbies in the West opposed to the US on ideological grounds have even succeeded in holding protests against drones both in and outside Pakistan.

On the other hand, few people have raised their voice for the thousands of citizens of KP slain by the militants. Perhaps it may be unfashionable to do so.

Posthumously conferring the highest national medals for bravery on Sharafata and Sumbal and their colleagues would be a step in the right direction. By doing so, we can send a strong message to the killers of these valiant Pakhtun women.

In the line of fire - DAWN.COM

The strong message you are suggesting will bring more attacks on them the strong message would be provide them well armed and equipped security personals when they are doing this campaign

 

[Luftwaffe]

Whatever the cause it is disgusting...I wonder how these idiots who shoot such workers feel when they beget a child with polio...What do they do? Shoot the child?!

No they don't shoot their child they become blind, deaf, dumb and keep blocking the thoughts what they did to their children.

It is a curse by Allah "perhaps", these children will one day grow up and learn that vaccinations were important for them and then they will blame their fathers, uncles, their tribes, their community, these children and later grown up adults will take revenge from their old men that they killed innocent people who wanted them normal and not physically deformed.

Allah says he doesn't shy away when he mentions mosquito as an example in The Quran so Allah has a plan for these illiterate backward people which will bite them back kids against their old ones at each others throats.

 

[Tk_90]

Whatever the cause it is disgusting...I wonder how these idiots who shoot such workers feel when they beget a child with polio

Children aren't born with polio...
Anyways, The children Curse the parents when they grow up! Ofcource.
Not only the children become a burden on the parents but also on the society. It is highly unfortunate that our country is one of the few where polio is not eradicated!

What do they do? Shoot the child?!

NO, They leave them on the street, so they
can beg and earn money!

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Secur: You forgot that Shezan is a part of Mossad conspiracy and Shahnawaz Ltd is funding the so called Evil "Ahmedia" Sect!
It is hilarious actualy, what conspiracy buffons we have become!

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luftwaffe: morever there is no fault of the poor kid...

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

tribalism is stupid, i dont believe in it