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In Pakistan, a shrine to murder for 'blasphemy'

In West and US , arabs beat the white people , specially when they adopting western life style. Its very true, quoting a Moroccan student , he claimed Quran is just a book of stories nothing else. Wonder why no Blasphemy law in any Arab world. (not in my knowledge).
Anyone can print that kind of story from his rear...what is the reference? how can we believe you for this ? I can narrate hundred stories which are totally opposite to this...
 
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Anyone can print that kind of story from his rear...what is the reference? how can we believe you for this ? I can narrate hundred stories which are totally opposite to this...
Class mate. Few of my Iranian and arab student eat pork. Even a desi pakistani lahori student .....surprise . ??? ... its a fact.
 
Firstly, regarding the state, they cant really do anything here. It is commendable they put a noose around Qadri, but they cannot tear down the shrine unless some law is broken.

Now coming to Qadri and the mullahs that inspired him. I find it strange that these people have such a high veneration for the prophet, it's almost as if they place him above Allah. This type of extreme hero worship is rather pathetic and seems to come mostly from the lower, weaker elements of society.

It's not normally a good idea to go around insulting people, or their friends and relative, or even their prophets. However, the idea that some MAN claiming to be a prophet of god (who incidentally comes across to neutrals as being of low-birth and low character) is some kind of super-excellent all-good entity who far surpasses all existence in his nobility who under no circumstances CANNOT be critized is quite frankly laughably.

I find Muslims here in the UK to have completely lost the plot. These guys walk around in white thobes and somehow dont realize how ridiculous they look. Girls put on fancy hijabs and abayas and then loads of makeup and think theyre some kind Arab princess.

I dont think there has ever existed in all humanity a group quite as pathetic, confused and delusional as the more religious young Muslims of today. They have nothing to add to Academia, Art, Entertainment, Politics etc that can be considered original or useful.

People here need to take a step back and look at just how completely deranged and farcical South Asians Muslims have become.

A hundred years or so ago, if a little shit like Mumtaz Qadri dared attack a high ranking state official, they would have killed him, his whole family and maybe even the entire village. I dont agree with Taseers behaviour but little guys like that need to understand there are things in the world greater and more powerful than their religion.

The biggest problems with Muslims are their massive delusions of grandeur and their complete disrespect for others.

Poltical/Culural Islam is a big joke. This movement is going nowhere fast. We have already reached Maximum Islam globally. Muslims have been putting huge resources into into this over the years and it has resulted in nothing more than the ability to dress extremely poorly and blow shit up from time to time.

Religion in South Asia = Prestige, Status, Power. Islam is no longer able to confer any of those.
 
In Pakistan, a shrine to murder for 'blasphemy'
As a Senate committee mulls Pakistan's blasphemy laws, thousands visit shrine to Mumtaz Qadri, killer of Salman Taseer.
Two men pray at the grave of Mumtaz Qadri [Asad Hashim/Al Jazeera]
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Asad Hashim
Islamabad, Pakistan - Two narrow minarets rise into the sky, flanking a deep green dome on top of a building nestled in rolling hills on the outskirts of Pakistan's capital.
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Inside, the walls are lined with inscriptions from the Quran and verses in praise of Islam's Prophet Muhammad, whose mosque in the Saudi city of Medina the dome seeks to mimic. The ceiling is inlaid with an intricate mirror-work mosaic, a kaleidoscope of colours and shapes.

In the centre of the inner chamber lies a white marble grave. The stone around its edges is carved into a delicate latticework. The grave is covered with fresh roses, whose scent fill the room.

On the carpeted floor, visitors pay their respects. Some pray, others read from the Quran. In one corner, three young men quietly recite poems in praise of Prophet Muhammad.

The peaceful calm is eerily at odds with the act that brought them all here. For this is the grave of Mumtaz Qadri, a Pakistani police officer who, in 2011, fired 28 bullets into then-Punjab governor Salman Taseer over alleged blasphemy, killing him instantly.

'From the people'

Qadri was hanged last year after being found guilty of the murder. His funeral was attended by tens of thousands, and now his family has used donations in his name to build this ornate shrine, with an accompanying mosque and seminary to follow.

"This is all from the common people," says Aamir Qadri, Mumtaz's older brother, gesturing to the still under-construction shrine. Aamir sits at a small plastic table at the entrance to the shrine, a well worn passbook for donations in front of him.

"We made this for him, it is his right as an aashiq-e-rasool [lover of the Prophet]," he says, adding that thousands of people visit each week.

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The shrine honours Mumtaz Qadri, a Pakistani police officer who shot dead the Punjab governor Salman Taseer over alleged blasphemy [Asad Hashim/Al Jazeera]
So far construction has cost $67,000, all of it either donated by supporters or raised from the family's savings. When the mosque and seminary are completed, in around two years, the total cost will be about $955,000, Aamir says.

"We will build as much as we can … We have put bricks, the next person will put marble. And the next person after that might put gold, others silver."

Pakistan's blasphemy laws have been on the books since before independence from the British in 1947, but they have seen increased use since the 1980s when they were strengthened by then-military dictator Zia-ul-Haq's "Islamisation" campaign.

Today, those convicted of insulting the Prophet Muhammad face a mandatory death sentence. Other offences carry punishments ranging from fines to life imprisonment.

Currently, about 40 people are on death row or serving life sentences for blasphemy in Pakistan, according to the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom. Increasingly, however, right-wing vigilantes and mobs have taken the law into their own hands, killing at least 68 people over alleged blasphemy since 1990, according to an Al Jazeera tally.

Rights groups say blasphemy allegations have regularly been used to target minorities and to settle personal feuds or discredit people publicly.

Senate debate 'a sin'
In late January, Pakistan's Senate officially took up the issue of the law's potential misuse for the first time in 24 years.

"Blasphemy is a very controversial law in Pakistan because people feel very strongly about it, and we naturally respect the sentiments of all people," Nasreen Jalil, who heads the Senate Human Rights Committee, told Al Jazeera. "We should do something about the procedure … so that blasphemy allegations are not misused."

While making it clear that the Senate was not discussing repealing the law, Jalil said one of the recommendations being reviewed was to amend procedure so that a senior police officer must conduct an inquiry before any blasphemy case is filed to rule out personally motivated allegations.

"We hope that the debate will be able to open people's minds and do something good for the people," she says.

Rights groups, however, suspect that such procedural changes would do little to lessen the number of cases of vigilante murder.

"I think it's more a question of enforcement," says Zohra Yusuf, chairwoman of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. "When people are accused, the police tend to panic, and … they often then give them away to be handled by the mob," she added, citing several cases where such violence resulted in the death of the accused before a legal case was ever filed.

"There is an urgent need for these laws to be amended. It's like a sword hanging over everyone's head. If you disagree with some religious point of view, then it's very easy to accuse someone of blasphemy."
London-based rights group Amnesty International says procedural changes must be backed by a strong statement of will by the government to take on those killing in the name of religion.

"A public message also has to be sent by the Pakistani government that they unreservedly condemn acts of violence, threats and intimidation purportedly justified in the name of religion, and ensure that effective steps are taken to prevent their recurrence," Nadia Rahman Khan, Amnesty's Pakistan campaigner, told Al Jazeera.

That political will, many say, has been lacking in recent years, particularly since Taseer's murder. Two months after his killing, Shahbaz Bhatti, then federal minister for minority affairs and an ardent campaigner for reforming the blasphemy laws, was shot dead.

Sherry Rehman, a member of parliament who subsequently presented a bill to amend the laws that was abandoned by her party, continues to face blasphemy cases and threats in connection with her proposal.

"What happened [to Taseer and Bhatti] and the aftermath, the state should've set precedents and their failure to do so emboldened these actors," says Shehrbano Taseer, Salman's daughter. "There was a very palpable fear that spread in the country. People moved away. Everything changed overnight [and now] no one wants to touch the issue."

Pakistan's right-wing, meanwhile, remains adamant that the laws cannot be touched, unless it is to make them even stricter.

"Our parliament should, keeping these issues in mind, make the law so strong that any person about to blaspheme is too scared to do so, since the law is so strong that it will get him," says Abdul Rasool, a leader of the Pakistan Sunni Tehreek party. Rasool says he believes Qadri's act was justified, as police officers had refused to register a legal case against Taseer.

"There is no harm in debating [the law] to make it more effective. But to make it ineffective or to remove the death penalty, or to give room for any person who insults Islam, having that debate is a sin," he declares.

Why all the violence?


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This is one of the issues at the centre of the debate surrounding the laws: that even questioning them is considered blasphemy.

Qadri proclaimed that he killed Taseer for declaring the blasphemy law "a black law" while he campaigned for the release of Aasiya Noreen, a Pakistani Christian sentenced to hang after being convicted of blasphemy. Others who have been killed by vigilantes include lawyers for those accused of blasphemy, judges adjudicating cases, and even family members of those accused.

For Arsalan Khan, a cultural anthropologist who studies Islamic revivalist movements, the reason there are such high levels of violence surrounding the debate on the laws in Pakistan is because of a fractured social contract between the state and its people.
"The state's legitimacy for [someone like] Qadri is its link to Islam," he says. "The blasphemy law is crucial to this link between state sovereignty and Islam because it proscribes the defilement of the sacred symbols such as the Quran and the Prophet.

"It is precisely the link between Islam, law and state sovereignty that Qadri believes people like Salman Taseer are destroying … The elimination of Taseer and the fear that that would spread through other potential Taseers was conceived as a restorative act that re-links the Pakistani state with its Islamic roots."

That argument seems to ring true with visitors to Qadri's shrine.

"Why did the government not take action themselves [against Taseer]?" rails Talha Shahbaz, a garment trader who travelled more than 400km to visit the shrine. "Because he was a member of the government. Why did Mumtaz Qadri have to take this action himself?"

Others point to the conflict between strict interpretations of divine law and laws codified by a representative democracy.

"According to our Muslim law, [what Qadri did] is completely correct," says Gul Zaman, 60, a visitor to the shrine. "It is obvious that shariah law supersedes a country's law … This is our faith, that what our Prophet has taught us is the truth."

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There also appears to be a perception, Arsalan argues, that in a country such as Pakistan - where economic inequality is high and formal judicial processes are often inefficient - the ruling elite is disconnected from the concerns of regular citizens, and enforcing the borders of the debate on blasphemy - sometimes on pain of death - is a way of citizens fighting back.

"The sense of alienation comes also from being economically marginal. The base of Sunni Islamic movements is overwhelmingly, though not uniformly, working to middle class people and petit bourgeois merchants. This also feeds the sense that the elite and state are corrupt," he says.

Or, as Shahbaz puts it: "Why were we forced to do this, why did the issue get to where it is … You can see how 'justice' is done here. The rich always get away with it. Everyone knows it."

Meanwhile, a few metres away, an elderly woman ambles up to Aamer Qadri's donation table to contribute Rs100 (about $1) for the cause.

"He is a lover of the Prophet," she said when asked why she donated. "Can there be anything better than this?"

Asad Hashim is aljazeera.com's correspondent in Pakistan. Follow him on Twitter: @AsadHashim
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So now we are making a traitor(he killed our state official) and killer a hero

If everyone starts taking law in his own hands, we will get screwed, big time..
 
So you can be a Western liberal, dress in fancy Western clothes, keep dogs as pets, smoke fancy Western cigars, act like a fancy Western gentleman, go get married to a Parsee (convert), lose a daughter to a Parsi who moves to India and then in the last years of your life put Shalwar Kameez on. And now you are redeamed.

Mashallah ~ There is hope for us also.

False flagger again .
I don't understand the psychology of people who do this, honestly.
 
So you can be a Western liberal, dress in fancy Western clothes, keep dogs as pets, smoke fancy Western cigars, act like a fancy Western gentleman, go get married to a Parsee (convert), lose a daughter to a Parsi who moves to India and then in the last years of your life put Shalwar Kameez on. And now you are redeamed.

Mashallah ~ There is hope for us also.

I don't understand the psychology of people who do this, honestly.
Frustration and belong to some neglected part of society. Simply press ignore button.
 
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very sad this blind following is the reason Pakistanis r suffering from all kind of complexities
 
I realizes that he is a Muslim leader
You fvckin idiot he was leader of Pakistan. Was he leader of -

Egyptian Muslims?
Maroccan Muslims?
Somali Muslims?
Omai Muslims?
Turkish Muslims?
Afghan Muslims?

Go say to Afghans that Jinnah was their leader and watch they will make a 'she' out of you by ripping off your ball oxe without any anesthetic. Enough time waste with retard like you.

The good news is we can do what we want but when we get real old just snap into a Shalwar Kameez and don a Jinnah cap. Your redeamed !
 
You fvckin idiot he was leader of Pakistan. Was he leader of -

Egyptian Muslims?
Maroccan Muslims?
Somali Muslims?
Omai Muslims?
Turkish Muslims?
Afghan Muslims?

Go say to Afghans that Jinnah was their leader and watch they will make a 'she' out of you by ripping off your ball oxe without any anesthetic. Enough time waste with retard like you.

The good news is we can do what we want but when we get real old just snap into a Shalwar Kameez and don a Jinnah cap. Your redeamed !
You are wasting your words ...simply press ignore button . Look at this picture and see how Qadari been framed by PMLn .
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Jinnah was a massive failure in Pakistani terms. If he was PM today and his daughter had married a Parsi and moved to India he would have lost all respect.
 
Jinnah was a massive failure in Pakistani terms. If he was PM today and his daughter had married a Parsi and moved to India he would have lost all respect.
@Kaptaan do we have these false flagger festival going on .......... lolz
 
@salarsikander , well the article itself says


He was firmly against the blasphemy law itself and was a vocal critic of the Blasphemy law by itself which according to most is an even greater crime than acting against quotes in the law. Plus, he is not the first nor the last official vocal critic of the law(though they are a tiny minority) who has landed himself in trouble.I remember reading that a month after this Salman Taseer was killed, another Religious Minorities Minister Shahbaz Bhatti, a Christian who spoke out against the laws, was shot dead in Islamabad, so this also underlines the threats faced by the few critics of the law. There was no mass public protest/anger against this and it didn't even make much waves across the country either(at least this Taseer guy case got some coverage. Lol )
So as I said, the focus should be on the law itself. If the vast majority of the public,country and government is behind the law(which seems to be the case), then the minority have to abide by it, even though I know it might be hard for them to do so, but they have no choice.they have to follow the law of the land no matter how hard it might be . :blink:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_Pakistan
Wikipedia OK. Will not comment more now then
 
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Religion is cheapest commodity to sale here in Pakistan. Religion has become a business, source of income for these people.
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I was going to post that (▼皿▼#)

A lot of posters here defended killers like Mumtaz Kadri, and called people who don't agree with their extremist views libtards and mushriks and members of bhensa page.

Can anyone please tell me what was written in bhensa page? I guess there were not so polite things said about prophet Mohammed. Has anyone analysed if the things written were true or false? Or are people crying blasphemy when they don't like something, even if it was true.
Things that come under article 6,295 a,b and c i saw that page and was banned at it
 
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