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In America, a cancer is eating democracy from the inside, and China has clocked the weakness
By Stan Grant
March 27 2021
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China's top diplomat, Yang Jiechi, got uncomfortably close to the truth when he lectured American officials about creating turmoil by invading other countries, having a "Cold War mentality" and trying to impose its democracy on the world.

Of course, Yang would not admit to China's appalling human rights record, crushing of dissent, or flouting international rules and claiming disputed territory.

But when he sat down with his American counterparts in Alaska, he made it clear that there is another big voice in the world — and the American led so-called "global liberal order" does not run the game.

Perhaps his most telling comment, though, was that far from being a model of democracy, "many people in the United States have little confidence" in their own government.

America —and by extension, the West — is going through a period of soul searching where it appears exhausted, unsure of itself, and hypocritical.


Many people no longer believe in the "promise of democracy". Freedom House — an organisation that measures the health of democratic nations globally — now counts 15 years of declining democracy.

Democracy is rotting from the inside: deformed by weak institutions, tribalism, the tyranny of the rich and an elite who dominate positions of power, racism, sexism, and crippling inequality.

The growing gap between rich and poor is a cancer that is eating democracy.

Rising inequality, fading dreams
Take the US: there, the wealth of someone in the top 1 per cent of society is 950 times greater than a member of the bottom 50 per cent.

The poor have seen their factories close down, their neighbourhoods trashed; they have lost their homes while the rich have grown richer.

They have still not recovered from the global financial crash of 2007/08, while the bankers who caused the disaster are back receiving their bonuses.

The rich in America pay lower taxes today than they did before the crash.

In his new book, Capital and Ideology, French economist Thomas Picketty says inequality has less to do with the economy than the political choices governments make.

In 2008 US President Barack Obama sided with the bankers over the people.

As Picketty writes: "Every human society must justify its inequalities; unless reasons for them are found, the whole political and social edifice stands in danger of collapse."


How does America justify such gross inequality? And the entire political edifice is in danger of collapse. Do we need any more evidence than four years of Donald Trump in the White House and the storming of the Capitol Building?

74 million people voted for Trump: the election of Joe Biden and his appeals to decency will not bridge that divide.

The Democrats — champions of neoliberalism that put the market ahead of people — have been part of the problem.

In country where life expectancy among the poor has been decreasing and many feel abandoned by Washington, democracy, in the words of economists Anne Case and Angus Deaton, looks like a "scam".

The wealth gap has played into a culture war which, combined with racism, has been rich pickings for demagogues and political populists who feed on fear and anxiety.

In America it helped put Trump in the White House, while in Europe it has inspired a revival of the far right, contributed in no small part to Brexit, and has fuelled a backlash against immigration and refugees.

What of Australia?
In Australia, we have largely avoided the worst of political extremism and even the most egregious inequality. But there are worrying signs.

In recent years the wealth gap has widened. Research from the University of New South Wales and the Australian Council of Social Services last year showed that the average wealth of the top 20 per cent of income earners is 90 times that of the lowest 20 per cent.

This was based on pre-COVID figures; after the pandemic the situation may worsen.


Picketty has pointed out that inequality is built into our societies, predating the Industrial Revolution and the technology age. We keep finding new ways to justify it.

The times when inequality decreased were during periods of war or upheaval or long stages of economic growth like the decades following World War II.

Reducing inequality, Picketty argues, depends on the decisions made by governments and is not possible without increasing taxes on the rich.

But where is the appetite for that type of reform? Politicians who take a high-taxing agenda to an election inevitably lose. People vote for their own interests and the poor get poorer and angrier and our politics becomes more divided and toxic.


Democracies die. We are seeing that around the world. Often they're killed by the people we elect.

Harvard University Professors in Government, Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, say democracies die in war, but they also die at the hands of elected leaders: "Presidents or Prime Ministers who subvert the very process that brought them to power."

Leaders who have presided over shocking inequality and others who exploit it for their own gain. As the poet William Blake wrote: "A dog starved at his master's gate predicts the ruin of the state."

We should heed those words today.

China's Yang Jiechi certainly knows America's weakness, and perversely it is what has been America's strength: its democracy.

He might also have reminded them that while the poor in America get poorer, China has lifted 700 million people out of poverty.

 
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LOL, It's ok for you to believe that half of the Chinese population still live in "just poverty", your mind, your choice.

Poverty is less than $5.50/day. Extreme poverty is less than $3.20/day.

Try listening to your Masters:

Chinadaily
While China is close to eliminating absolute poverty, experts say figures released by Premier Li Keqiang last month show that much work needs to be done to give many Chinese people a decent life.

While speaking at a news conference after the end of the annual session of the National People's Congress in Beijing late last month, Li cast a spotlight on the scale of China's low-income population, saying about 600 million Chinese earn about 1,000 yuan ($141) per capita a month-barely enough for rent in mid-sized cities.




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40% make less than $4.63/day
You still need another $0.87 to cross $5.50.



It's ok for you to ignore reality... it's your mind, your choice.
 
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No, he has lifted over 700M from extreme poverty to just poverty.


In the US, tent cities are becoming the norms in many big cities. Have watched some documentaries from oversea Vietnamese channels. It is disgusting: filthy, starvation (food picked from trash bin), illiterate, people who becoming dull after years living homeless.

No one can find any of this in such mass scale, even just close to, in either China or Russia. Do not use the same dirty tactics "they just hiding it".

Which countries have more extreme poverty?

And in many cases, perhaps the so-called poor people in China are generally more better off than so-called middle-class in the US, in terms of guaranteed education, guaranteed foods or guaranteed housing, despite the fact that the later has much higher GDP per capita nominally.

The same with Brazil or Mexico. Just 10 years ago, their GDP per capita (nominal, in US$) were 3 - 5 times that of China, but these countries looked messy, chaotic, violent and primitive, even in the cities, compared to Chinese cities. The countryside were even worse. This can explain why just 10 years later, in 2020, their GDP per capita were much lower than China's.

The same fate may await the US, if they cannot walk the walks wisely.
 
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And in many cases, perhaps the so-called poor people in China are generally more better off than so-called middle-class in the US, in terms of guaranteed education, guaranteed foods or guaranteed housing, despite the fact that the later has much higher GDP per capita nominally.

Education is 100% FREE to everybody in the US up until the age of 18. People who make under $23,000 a year can get FREE financial and food assistance from the Government ($204/month SNAP benefits plus others..that in itself puts you above $5.50). If you make less than $17,000 you get FREE Medical insurance. If you make less than $12,760 you get government housing.
 
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Marijuana otherwise known as weed is now legal & common across the u.s. while a state like oregon has legalized hard drugs up to a certain quantity. If China & Russia REALLY want to dominate then all that they need to do is to find the campaign legalization of hard drugs to get them normalized while funding the woke movement so that the average american will forever be high & can celebrate a super hero movie about a flying schizophreniac that identifies himself as a transgender zucchini! opium wars avenged! 😎
 
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Education is 100% free to everybody in the US up until the age of 18. People who make under $23,000 a year can get FREE financial and food assistance from the Government. If you make less than $17,000 you get FREE Medical insurance.

Kindly explain why people still have to pick up foods from trash bins, and many people receive no medical care at all, who are now living off the support from donors. It is from oversea Vietnamese channels, not propaganda.

And the generally pro-West vnexpress.com last year posted many news about US families living in extreme poverty, with children frequently going to bed empty stomach.

One may find better policies in North Korea, but realizing the policies are different issue. And the US is not famous about realizing social policies.
 
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Kindly explain why people still have to pick up foods from trash bins, and many people receive no medical care at all, which are now living off the support from donors. It is from oversee Vietnamese channels, not propaganda.

And the generally pro-West vnexpress.com last year posted many news about US families living in extreme poverty, with children frequently going to bed empty stomach.

One may find better policies in North Korea, but realizing the policies are different issue. And the US is not famous about realizing social policies.

Because they probably choose to live in the most expensive areas of the US where the cost of living is substantially higher than elsewhere.

San Francisco/NYC have HUGE problems...and they are the most expensive places in the US to live. People who have little money are stupid to stay there.

About our data

Top 10 most expensive cities in America
1. San Francisco, CA
2. New York, NY

3. Oakland, CA
4. Boston, MA
5. Washington, D.C.
6. San Jose, CA
7. Seattle, WA
8. Honolulu, HI
9. Los Angeles, CA
10. San Diego, CA

If you have no money avoid the above 10 unless you want to live on the street.
 
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Education is 100% free to everybody in the US up until the age of 18. People who make under $23,000 a year can get FREE financial and food assistance from the Government. If you make less than $17,000 you get FREE Medical insurance.
which is EXACTLY why most americans perfectly happy NOT to go to college and are satisfied with remedial brain dead minimum wage part time jobs, why bother when idiotic tax payers like me pay for their brain dead lifestyle by actually going to college, working hard, paying over 35% income tax alone while earning an honest living. I work hard for my money but the house next me has been rented to a promiscuous single mother that has 8 kids from 8 different boyfriends, all of em living on section 8 housing while barely working part time at walmart for minimum wage, getting additional welfare checks & food stamps. she drives a luxury car! and here's the real kick in the american pants...citizens like me are a tiny tinsy winsy minority which is why the federal & state governments constantly have to our loans after loans after loans to keep these brain dead promiscuous americans afloat so that they can continue to get their welfare checks while either knocking up or getting knocked up by people whose names they don't even remember.

now shut up and sit down!
 
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which is EXACTLY why most americans perfectly happy NOT to go to college and are satisfied with remedial brain dead minimum wage part time jobs, why bother when idiotic tax payers like me pay for their brain dead lifestyle by actually going to college, working hard, paying over 35% income tax alone while earning an honest living. I work hard for my money but the house next me has been rented to a promiscuous single mother that has 8 kids from 8 different boyfriends, all of em living on section 8 housing while barely working part time at walmart for minimum wage, getting additional welfare checks & food stamps. she drives a luxury car!

now shut up and sit down!

I agree. The main problem is idiot parents raise idiot children.

I grew up in Boston surrounded by mostly lower middle class families who never went to college. Luckily both my parents did (which back then was rare). When I was 18 I asked many of the local kids what their college plans were...and they looked at me like I was a Martian. I warned them they are dooming themselves to a horrible life and they laughed.

Needless to say the internet is handy in finding where somebody currently lives. Sure enough you can see the sh*tholes they live in. Not surprised. It didn't have to be that way.

Moved to the suburbs...surrounded by educated people. Never going back to the city.
 
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While speaking at a news conference after the end of the annual session of the National People's Congress in Beijing late last month, Li cast a spotlight on the scale of China's low-income population, saying about 600 million Chinese earn about 1,000 yuan ($141) per capita a month-barely enough for rent in mid-sized cities.

li was talking about "disposable" income, which in US the number could be negative.


Li keqiang refers to "average disposable income", money left after all must pay bills and expenditures being deducted, in this case, Americans income could be negative

"李克强总理引用的数据,来自北京师范大学收入分配研究院的报告。根据统计,在月收入低于1000元的群体中,来自农村的比例高达75.6%,远远高于其他收入群体.。从地区来看,这6亿人分布在中部和西部的比重为36.2%和34.8%。

北师大的数据,跟国家统计局不一样。国家统计局经常采用的是平均工资收入。北师大采用的是家庭人均可支配收入。人均可支配收入,是指扣除所得税和各种社会保险费等之外,实际可以用于支配的收入。这个指标,能反映家庭收入中,用于支付衣食住行等必备开支,用于教育医疗与养老负担的消费能力。可支配收入,比较客观反映真实民生问题和生活状态,是定性判断一个国家发展阶段的最为重要的指标。这个可支配收入指标,是全球通用的对于一个国家发展状态的评估指标,经常比GDP更具有现实意义。"

 
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li was talking about "disposable" income, which in US the number could be negative.

Li keqiang refers to "average disposable income", money left after all must pay bills and expenditures being deducted, in this case, Americans income could be negative

The definition of disposable income:
"Disposable income, also known as disposable personal income (DPI), is the amount of money that an individual or household has to spend or save after income taxes have been deducted."


Disposable income is pretty arbitrary to judge if we use "all bills". One mans requirement is another's thrift. Are we simply going to use average rent, utility, food prices?
 
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The definition of disposable income:
"Disposable income, also known as disposable personal income (DPI), is the amount of money that an individual or household has to spend or save after income taxes have been deducted."


Filing StatusUnder Age 65Age 65 and Older
Single$12,200$13,850
Different countries have different ways to judge what "disposable" is due to different laws and taxation standards and Is disposable income a standard to gauge "just poverty" as you claimed? and the proof to back up your claim that half of the Chinese population still live in just poverty?
40% of Americans don’t have $400 in the bank for emergency expenses: Federal Reserve
 
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I agree. The main problem is idiot parents raise idiot children.

I grew up in Boston surrounded by mostly lower middle class families who never went to college. Luckily both my parents did (which back then was rare). When I was 18 I asked many of the local kids what their college plans were...and they looked at me like I was a Martian. I warned them they are dooming themselves to a horrible life and they laughed.

Needless to say the internet is handy in finding where somebody currently lives. Sure enough you can see the sh*tholes they live in. Not surprised. It didn't have to be that way.

Moved to the suburbs...surrounded by educated people. Never going back to the city.
oh dear...I live in the suburbs & upper class ones. they are here...section 8rs are already here and everywhere. and you are wrong in saying that they are doomed...they are not, we are doomed, we are the ones whose tax money has to pick up the tab for these free loaders who contribute nearly nothing to society. they get free money, free food stamps, free or cheap housing, all in exchange for being loosers. they don't need to have the kind of careers that you and I do, why would they when they get the standard of living we had to spend decades earning when they get it right off the bat just for being promiscuous & having babies instead of abstaining and concentrating on higher education. see how China has already won...their population PRODUCES while our population just REPRODUCES and then WHINES about it on top of that!
 
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