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In a Shift, Obama Extends U.S. Role in Afghan Combat

Truth hurts and your panic reflects same when one runs out of logics he goes typical blah blah etc

you see I didn't say you are a typical toilet less Indian holding gases inside waiting for fields to get vacant to take his turn coz I'm sure you are one of them so your brain farts are understandable and doesn't need to be taken seriously .
U know the best part is when a Pakistani thinks himself so Arab to downgrade India especially when his own country has similar or worse condition than India.
And then u talk bout taking seriously. Perfect. :D
 
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And we all thought they were moving out....And many people putting that forward even as an argument?! :unsure:

US 'to expand' 2015 Afghanistan combat role

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Most US troops are leaving Afghanistan at the end of the year

US troops in Afghanistan will be allowed to target Taliban fighters in Afghanistan from 2015, US officials say, expanding their role after the end of major combat operations.

Guidelines approved by President Barack Obama will also provide air support for Afghan missions, US media report.

The US force in the country is be cut to 9,800 by the end of 2014.

Previous plans had limited their role to training Afghan troops and tackling the remnants of al-Qaeda.

The military will now be allowed to fight the Taliban if the militants "directly threaten the United States and coalition forces" or provide "direct support to al-Qaeda", an unnamed official told US media.

The Associated Press and the New York Times say the change has been quietly decided by President Obama in recent weeks.

Coming home
In September the new Afghan government, led by President Ashraf Ghani, signed a security deal allowing US troops to remain in the country beyond 2014.

Under a separate agreement, a number of Nato members - including Germany, Turkey, Italy - will contribute to a 12,000-strong force that will train and assist Afghanistan's security forces.

The US deployment is due to be reduced by half again by the end of 2015.

Nato - which had about 50,000 troops in Afghanistan in early 2014, mostly from the US - has been steadily withdrawing them, handing over control to local security forces.

Mr Ghani was sworn in as Afghanistan's new president in September, replacing Hamid Karzai in the country's first democratic transfer of power.

Mr Karzai had refused to sign the security deal, in part because the US sought immunity from prosecution for its forces.

BBC News - US 'to expand' 2015 Afghanistan combat role

NOW............Did you really believe 'that story'? :azn:
 
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well then there are rapes happening in India everyday so Modi should be hanged?

Beheadings are happening in Saudi Arabia even now but aren't highlighted as its required plus nobody ever established any link between mullah Omer and those incidents .

Having said all this let me say I hate Taliban if they are involved in coward attacks on civilians like the one today in a volleyball match and I feel Afghanistan needs level headed balanced leaders not like mullah Omer ,Karzai or ghani.

when I said resilient Afghan I didn't mean talibs but that thinking that never allowed in history any foreign power to rule them.

USSR and US are recent examples.

let Afghans decide their future thats the only good thing India can do on our east or else be ready for some hurting news every now and then.

obsessive with rapes,are we??

about Taliban,they committed worst sort of crime against humanity.and now,they're obstructing Afghanistan's voting process,by which Afghans were choosing their future leader.and for that purpose,they're using Pakistani ground.who are you to say whats best for Afghans??be it Karzai or Ghani,its their choice.should India interfere if Pakistan Choose IK as their future PM??

and whatever India is doing is for Afghanistan's development.all the butthurt from Pakistanis are nothing but jealousy regarding the respect India is getting and Pakistan not.but you know what??People who play double game never gets the respect.you could easily see that common Afghans love Indians as we provide them development via various engagements.but its you guys who can't digest such news because every single day,India is getting closer to Afghanistan and your leverage is getting reduced.
 
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Not me many PDF Indians were telling me they are moving out stop bringing them in as examples :whistle:

Did the Indian members say that? :D
OTOH, it was the pksitan pdf members who kept saying:......wait for Uncle Sam to go, then we're gonna get you. :lol:

But as I explained earlier (on this thread and many times on other threads) that all other Neighbors/stake-holders in Afghanistan were not really waiting for the Americans to quit!
ONLY one entity was........to get a free run and then take over as Thekedaar again. :D
 
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Did the Indian members say that? :D
OTOH, it was the pksitan pdf members who kept saying:......wait for Uncle Sam to go, then we're gonna get you. :lol:

But as I explained earlier (on this thread and many times on other threads) that all other Neighbors/stake-holders in Afghanistan were not really waiting for the Americans to quit!
ONLY one entity was........to get a free run and then take over as Thekedaar again. :D
You really think so? So it wasnt America literally begging us to help control the situation and that Karzai as well??
 
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obsessive with rapes,are we??

about Taliban,they committed worst sort of crime against humanity.and now,they're obstructing Afghanistan's voting process,by which Afghans were choosing their future leader.and for that purpose,they're using Pakistani ground.who are you to say whats best for Afghans??be it Karzai or Ghani,its their choice.should India interfere if Pakistan Choose IK as their future PM??

and whatever India is doing is for Afghanistan's development.all the butthurt from Pakistanis are nothing but jealousy regarding the respect India is getting and Pakistan not.but you know what??People who play double game never gets the respect.you could easily see that common Afghans love Indians as we provide them development via various engagements.but its you guys who can't digest such news because every single day,India is getting closer to Afghanistan and your leverage is getting reduced.
oh my !!!! I was unable to see such a generous and caring side of India... Would you care to explain the reasons behinds this kindness towards a country that's not Hindu and doesn't even share a border with you guys..Bhutan , Nepal and many African countries like Somalia are more needy but ain't t getting such generous attitude.

leave them all just get out of your home and see those millions of hungry and needy in your own country .

As far Afghans good vibes about Indians are concerned that's a myth popular only in India.

I expected you to be more blunt and say yeah we have got both strategic and economic interests in Afghanistan instead of this Afghanis development shit. Nigeria is a good example of what capitalists always do despite having 2nd biggest economy in Africa lives of normal people haven't changed a bit and all the money is going to oil majors and a bunch of corrupt leaders.

That's the Afghanistan you guys want but last 13 years are enough to prove afgans themselves are strong enough to take reigns of their country in their own hands.

forget talibs ask any other Afghan do they want USA in their country or do they want Indian or any other nation to mine their resources for pennies you will get yr answer.
 
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You really think so? So it wasnt America literally begging us to help control the situation and that Karzai as well??

That was because you had posited yourself as the Thekedaar and Chacha Sam 'had bought that story' then. :D
Very different scenario now (its been like that for quite some time, now ai'nt it), so the script has changed.....even the Stars have been changed...... The Soap Opera seems to be heading for a different ending now!
 
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That was because you had posited yourself as the Thekedaar and Chacha Sam 'had bought that story' then. :D
Very different scenario now (its been like that for quite some time, now ai'nt it), so the script has changed.....even the Stars have been changed...... The Soap Opera seems to be heading for a different ending now!
Lets wait and see...lets hope no more shit, killings and war craps...enough is enough!
 
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That was because you had posited yourself as the Thekedaar and Chacha Sam 'had bought that story' then. :D
Very different scenario now (its been like that for quite some time, now ai'nt it), so the script has changed.....even the Stars have been changed...... The Soap Opera seems to be heading for a different ending now!
script had to be changed 'cause of low TRP for the past year or so. Now that the script has changed... it's only going to get more interesting... & this 'saas bahu' serial is only going to keep the audience in tenterhooks. Sudden twist will bring back the attention once again... & the role of each actor will be re-jigged! :coffee:
 
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oh my !!!! I was unable to see such a generous and caring side of India... Would you care to explain the reasons behinds this kindness towards a country that's not Hindu and doesn't even share a border with you guys..Bhutan , Nepal and many African countries like Somalia are more needy but ain't t getting such generous attitude.

thats where you guys fail.you guys bring religion into everything.but then again,Bhutan and Nepal gets more than we give to Afghanistan.they're like our states,no border,gets whole lot of subsidies in various sector and enjoys defence and others co-op...

leave them all just get out of your home and see those millions of hungry and needy in your own country .

we're doing more than what your tiny brains are capable of thinking to get rid of poverty.looks like few guys in PDF worries much about our poverty and toilet issues than we do.. :whistle:

As far Afghans good vibes about Indians are concerned that's a myth popular only in India.

some myth getting circulated in Pakistani circle..

I expected you to be more blunt and say yeah we have got both strategic and economic interests in Afghanistan instead of this Afghanis development shit. Nigeria is a good example of what capitalists always do despite having 2nd biggest economy in Africa lives of normal people haven't changed a bit and all the money is going to oil majors and a bunch of corrupt leaders.

That's the Afghanistan you guys want but last 13 years are enough to prove afgans themselves are strong enough to take reigns of their country in their own hands.

forget talibs ask any other Afghan do they want USA in their country or do they want Indian or any other nation to mine their resources for pennies you will get yr answer.

we've our share of economic and strategic relationship with Afghanistan just like we've with other countries.but Afghan development gets a key position in Indo-Afghan relationship.can't help you if you can't digest it.

you shouldn't worry about what kind of Afghanistan India wants.its clear from their leader's speech.you should worry about what kind of Afghanistan Pakistan wants..liberal??Islamist??free from corruption and terrorism??or volatile,just like mid 90s..but one thing is assured.this time,it'll not be easy for Pakistan to make inroads in Afghanistan,and whole lot of trouble to put leverage on it.Pakistan wants to take Russia some role in Afghanistan,its like bringing another enemy into the scene.strikingly,India enjoys worm relationship with all the parties involved in Afghanistan,while Pakistan....:laugh:
 
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Now that's bad news for the Afghan Taliban (Haqqani) and its well wishers!

The proponents of that doctrine of so called 'Strategic Depth' in Afghanistan are going to get a lot of egg on their faces - so much that you could make a giant omelet out of it!

lool you are right, but i think the U.S leaving behind just 9000 troops is meaningless if it wish to take on the taliban and al qaeda and other rebel islamic groups with this. then its laughable.:lol: Even with all our current hundreds thousands troops from NATO and several western and non western countries present in fighting the taliban/insurgents today, we are still struggling/havent been able to readicate them. So how do you think 9000 soldiers are going to make any difference.

I think this is just a strategic message/move the U.S is trying to make. It just means the U.S will remain committed in Afghanistan and maintain control over the country's government/policies and be able to better guage/deal with regional rivals/powers like Russia and China influeence in the region, while at the same time preventing the taliban and other anti U.S/western groups to take power. So i dont think it has only to do with fighting/destroying Alqaeda/haqanni network. The reasons lie else where.
 
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thats where you guys fail.you guys bring religion into everything.but then again,Bhutan and Nepal gets more than we give to Afghanistan.they're like our states,no border,gets whole lot of subsidies in various sector and enjoys defence and others co-op...



we're doing more than what your tiny brains are capable of thinking to get rid of poverty.looks like few guys in PDF worries much about our poverty and toilet issues than we do.. :whistle:



some myth getting circulated in Pakistani circle..



we've our share of economic and strategic relationship with Afghanistan just like we've with other countries.but Afghan development gets a key position in Indo-Afghan relationship.can't help you if you can't digest it.

you shouldn't worry about what kind of Afghanistan India wants.its clear from their leader's speech.you should worry about what kind of Afghanistan Pakistan wants..liberal??Islamist??free from corruption and terrorism??or volatile,just like mid 90s..but one thing is assured.this time,it'll not be easy for Pakistan to make inroads in Afghanistan,and whole lot of trouble to put leverage on it.Pakistan wants to take Russia some role in Afghanistan,its like bringing another enemy into the s
cene.strikingly,India enjoys worm relationship with all the parties involved in Afghanistan,while Pakistan....:laugh:

Can't waste my time on educating bipolar kids like you but just a one liner to give you a glimpse of yr bright future in Afghanistan


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/23/world/hours-drive-outside-kabul-taliban-reign.html

And its printed today point is you guys are trying to solve problem without knowing it thus ensuring huge losses in all senses.Taliban is a psyche that can only be eliminated by education but who cares for that its about money and power always.
 
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Can't waste my time on educating bipolar kids like you but just a one liner to give you a glimpse of yr bright future in Afghanistan


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/23/world/hours-drive-outside-kabul-taliban-reign.html

And its printed today point is you guys are trying to solve problem without knowing it thus ensuring huge losses in all senses.Taliban is a psyche that can only be eliminated by education but who cares for that its about money and power always.

first,India isn't even engaging with or against Taliban.we're providing training,weapons and aid to Afghan Govt.apart from a safe Afghanistan where India could do business,India doesn't have other hidden agenda(Like Pakistanis accuse).we've fought several proxy wars like Afghanistan is fighting now.only difference between India and Afghanistan is,for India,the case always remained regional,and India can afford to fight it,having weapons,manpower and training.Modern Afghanistan is just a new state trying to stay on its feet.for them,its damn tough,and they might find it difficult.just look at Iraq.

about red part,really??Pakistan is facing same Talibans,right??so,when they're opening schools for Taliban??Last time I checked,Pakistan is bombing them to hell...
 
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It seems the everything is washington is set on a auto mode. May be its the bureaucracy that run the affairs of America where the president can't do much rather than signing papers. :lol: It has effectively become a paranoid national security state, a superpower on a slow steady decline.
 
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