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Imran Khan WTF Happened?

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PTI had no chance of winning the elections to form a government. despite bringing in electable, spending untold amount of money it couldn't form simple majority. so establishment had to convince regional parties to favor PTI. right from the word go I knew that Imran Khan's social media popularity was not enough to convert into votes and he admitted himself at the gates of Bani Gala when he flatly refsed to listen to with party workers that he knows what he is doing and its essential that the party tickets are given to electable who had changed many parties before and had a checkered past.

I myself was aware of that and considered it business as usual, justifying that Imran will clean all of it because he himself is clean. Imran had no chance to come to power given how deep the Noon league and PPP political influence is in the system and people are used to seeing this party in power for over 30 years. so the only way to win was that the elections were engineered in his favor.
yes he got my vote and vote of many idealist people who were dreaming a PPP/ Noon league free democratic Pakistan. but sadly these people are now spitting blood and tears over the "treachery of army" but his political capital was never ever enough to even to get simple majority. GHQ pushed the things to PTI favor and it was all acceptable and Halal for us because Noonies and Zardaris are scumbags and ugly and we don't like them.

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now I ask myself why army pulled its hand from him then? I have no satisfactory answer I have some plausible answers.

Sack of hay as CM Punjab
he installed Buzdar as CM for the most important province of Pakistan despite the advice of GHQ and his allies & benefactors. Manikas benefited financially and ran the province with the help of Buzdar who happens to be the disciple of Imran's current wife. his removal was too late and didnt save Imran.

Mega corruption and blunders in projects
Peshawar BRT, Billion tree Tsunami, Malam Jabba ski resort project gave rise to stories of embezzlement and mismanagement of funds and false claims. I am ignoring stories about Zulfy Bukhari, Tosha Khana, Farah Gogi because they are not significant (or I am not aware of their materiality).

Stagnation of CPEC
CPEC and associated projects were put on back burner due to government indecision, unnecessary delays, red tape and cover up (explained below)

Diplomatic suicide
angering Saudis, pissing off Chinese (e.g. but not limited to)lying about a terror attack as a cylinder blast, annoying and embarrassing Turkey and Malaysia. the Saudi Crown prince recalling the Jet he had loaned to Pakistan so that Imran Khan can use it was very low time for KSA/ Pakistan relations. I am not going to include Absolutely not America because it was simply rhetoric because America was not asking for anything and had no need from us after it alredy got our assistance in the safe transit of its personnel from Afghansitan.

TTP appeasement through misplaced pragmatism
suggesting a diplomatic office for TTP, constantly criticizing military operations as (appeasement of Americans) and paying ransom money to TTP at government level. I have personal account from locals in Peshawar and Swat blaming PTI's soft approach and even appeasement of TTP terrorists. granted GHQ shares the blame as well for TTP resurgence but GHQ is not a democratic party but PTI is which got elected through the votes of the people (with a lot of helpful push from "Generals").




the establishment and the PDM is not buying his deadline bluffs and threats of dissolving the assemblies or resignations anymore. now his party has suddenly woken up to the inflation and price hike and plans to make more marches against the federal government as if people were loving the fruits of his good governance in the time of plenty before his ouster. from the GHQ point of view it was a great defeat and embarrassment for the generals that the party they engineered to replace Noon league and PPP fell on its face flat and GHQ had to go back to the same Noon league it punished on behest of PTI sending its leaders out of the country

The establishment unfortunately wields a lot of power, has its say in the administration, has the say in all the aspects of the state but its not all powerful and is willing to work with a political party that is not just going to use it to punish journalists and political opponents but take care of the governance and build country's image through working for people and good diplomacy, if it was not willing to share or give up some of its powers to a democratic party then it would never bother with elections.

Solution?

Imran Khan still holds power in 2 provinces, he still has time to show to the public more than just power shows, sit ins and protest marches. He can show how fortunate KPK people are compared to people in Sindh through some relief and real improvement int he quality of life of the people not just fiery speeches.

so far his strategy has not worked and he has had to give new dates to his march of doom which the PDM has now started mocking. whataboutism wont sell anymore . cursing the establishment will also runout its sell value. while the establishment's people like Sheikh Rashid, Ch Fawad , Pervaiz Khattak and Shah Mehmood Qurashi etc. are still in PTI .. Imran should allow his well wishers to correct his path to self destruction and give a second thought to his past and present actions and most important thing is to change the habit of using establishment to punish his opponents and critics give KPK and Punjab voters something to . cheer on instead of using provincial machinery for his political protests, ditch the habit of all words no action and come up with practical plans to improve quality of life of Pakistanis
 
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No, no. It's likely the US was involved in some shape and form, but I have a feeling it had nothing to do with the US government, and just the BSCA getting overzealous.

How it started: this probably started over the disagreement between Bajwa and IK over Faiz Hameed, which was far worse division than anyone initially realized.

It's not a secret that the BSCA did not like IK, and absolutely wrote a letter asking the army to get rid of him under a veiled threat. The army both fearful of cutting of ties to the USA, who is Pakistan's largest trading partner, and taking it as a go ahead from the US government (which this was not) had IK removed.

There's a very good reason why the Supreme Court blocked IK from releasing the letter, because it would damage relations between Pakistan's biggest trading partner further deteriorating Pakistan's finances, thus it was deemed a risk to national security.

This explains why the US government rejected it, but why the BSCA kept relatively quiet through out the entire affair. The Biden administration simply didn't know what happened until after the fact.

It doesn't help that US diplomats met with opposition figures leading up to the VoNC.
Every government in Pakistan is created and dissolved as per American wishes.
This is how colonies work for Americans everywhere in the world.
In Pakistan, its army's job to make it look less like a colony as much as possible with the help of sold out politicians.

I have noticed people with think tank analyst title are only good at making up fairy tales.
 
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Every government in Pakistan is created and dissolved as per American wishes.
This is how colonies work for Americans everywhere in the world.
In Pakistan, its army's job to make it look less like a colony as much as possible with the help of sold out politicians.

I have noticed people with think tank analyst title are only good at making up fairy tales.
Lmao, sure buddy. Thats why the US accused Pakistan of harboring terrorists and placed sanctions on it multiple times.

I'm gonna ignore your little snide remark about my title.
 
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Simple, Bajwa and IK had a disagreement, and instead of settling it like adults, one of them decided to throw a temper tantrum and irreversibly damaged his organization's reputation. I'll let you decide who that person is.
in my view the culprits are both Gen Bajwa and Imran.

both did injustice to their respective organization and party. Gen Bajwa first used the influence of his institution to engineer the elections in PTI favor and then decided to undo his experiment when the things went beyond repair.

Imran knowing well what he was getting into. swallowed the blue pill and went in the make believe dream land believing to be a real PM with authority as Gen Bajwa and his organisation built that world around him

That's all this is.

It should have never gotten to this point. IK should have been allowed to finish his term, and he would have naturally been booted out through the power of voting.
Absolutely agree. the move to remove him was unconstitutional and no matter how much Imran had annoyed Gen Bajwa through delayed notification of new DG ISI and insisting on keeping the follower of his wife as CM of Punjab.
corruption of Imran Khan's allies cant be the reason because they are now in Power. corruption of KPK govt and the electable members within his party at center also not something that should've annoyed GHQ because since when Army has cared about good governance disliked corruption?

Instead, he's now gonna win the next elections, and the powers that be have no one to blame but themselves. PMLN is gonna get nearly wiped out, and Zardari is gonna laugh all the way to the bank, because he'll be one step closer to achieving a 2 party system like he's always wanted.
that 's where I don't agree with you. army has PDM, Media, Civil administration and Judiciary / ECP on its side. Imran has been relentless and very forceful I give him that but he has not crippled the country or jammed the machinery to a stand still. his protests have attracted decent to modest crowds. but people have limits, with such low outlook loss of income and bad economic forecast, rising energy food prices people cant keep on coming out all the time. this is the reason sensing that Imran had to revise the deadlines many times. since May last year. the only person ever in Pakistan history who managed that was ZA Bhutto.

I have no comment about Zardari or Nawaz Sherif other than to say that Sindh is under his iron grim and he is not letting it go. Punjab will be a tough one. remember even having the entire machinery against it, Noon league still came out as a large party but not large enough to form a government since the smaller parties and independents normally go with the establishment if the results are nonconclusive.
now Noon league maybe in a better position with GHQ behind it. PTI will not be able to pull a simple majority without the Choudhary's of Gujrat . it might secure a chunk of vote on the basis of sympathy and Imran's immortal charm.
PTI voters are gonna come out in record numbers, and no amount of rigging is gonna change the results from a PTI victory.
tall claim, PTI might get some additional sympathy vote but dont forget it still has governments in 2 provinces, what does it have to show to the people to deserve the vote again? traditionally KPK doesnt vote a party twice, it has done it already and the province is not a shining example to sell as a benchmark.

We're already hearing talks about Shahbaz Sharif possibly stepping down for a caretaker technocrat government. Gen. Asim Munir probably saw what's going on and is trying to now salvage whatever is left of Pakistan's dignity.
yea that maybe possible but totally a different discussion.
 
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Lmao, sure buddy. Thats why the US accused Pakistan of harboring terrorists and placed sanctions on it multiple times.

I'm gonna ignore your little snide remark about my title.
They have been accusing Pakistan without doing anything.
They have never properly sanctioned Pakistan. Sanctions on Cuba, Iran are real sqnctions. Its all drama with Pakistan to keep Indians happy.
 
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In 3 years the clown was in opposition mode while sitting in govt. He has been making riyast e podina.
In the last 4 years, all he has is:

Yeh corrupt woh corrupt
Riyast e podina
Long march kar loon
Jo karwa raha ha america karwa raha ha
Mein tou chutiya tha, chutiya banta gaya aur banata gaya
Politically revenge

Nothing on economy
Nothing on IR

Repeat.
Congrats on Joining PDM and welcome to Riyasat e ghulaman e amrika and Riyasat e economic failure and Riyasat e bankrupt.

lets count the blessings of the current establishment + PDM.

Regime change =Fail
ByElections =Fail
ForeignFunding =Fail
Toshakhana =Fail
Audios =Fail
MurderIK =Fail
ISI& ISPRpressers =Fail
NewChief =Fail
Econ=Fail
StopTerrorism =Fail
SilencingAwaam =Fail :sarcastic: :flood:
 
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what is BSCA?
pardon my ignorance.
Bureau of South and Central Asian Affairs. It's the organization that Donald Lu worked for under the State department I believe.

I'll respectfully leave it at, as the parts where you disagree with me on are a matter of personal opinion.

They have been accusing Pakistan without doing anything.
They have never properly sanctioned Pakistan. Sanctions on Cuba, Iran are real sqnctions. Its all drama with Pakistan to keep Indians happy.
I guess the block on T-129 sales to Pakistan was fake then. Or how a out backing India in every single Indian border violation, I guess those never happened either.
 
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Babu Sahib,
this is not a morality test. I am inviting you guys to find causes why GHQ pulled the rug after spreading it for PTI on 2018 elections.
Sir Ji,
I, the naive one, wanted to know the "Fair Policy" of the forum admins for certain blogs by persona-non-grata deleted and tagged with invalid source and certain blogs by certain persona grata made to remain for eternity.
ہم آہ بھی کرتے ہیں تو ہوجاتے ہیں بدنام
وہ قتل بھی کرتے ہیں تو چرچا نہیں ہوتا

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Congrats on Joining PDM and welcome to Riyasat e ghulaman e amrika and Riyasat e economic failure and Riyasat e bankrupt.

lets count the blessings of the current establishment + PDM.

Regime change =Fail
ByElections =Fail
ForeignFunding =Fail
Toshakhana =Fail
Audios =Fail
MurderIK =Fail
ISI& ISPRpressers =Fail
NewChief =Fail
Econ=Fail
StopTerrorism =Fail
SilencingAwaam =Fail :sarcastic: :flood:

Welcome to being gulaman e IK cult.
 
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If you say so, that said I still have the balls to call spade a spade.
While some expat kid in love with handsome IK cant.
I am calling spade a spade. How do you go from %5+ economic growth to bankruptcy? with GHQ's blessing of course!

Here's another spade for you. Since you have an issue with me being an expat which I am NOT. I was born in the UK not Pakistan. Clearly I am able to see the bera-gharaq happening in front of my eyes and not being a proverbial pawn to some institution which thinks itself above the state.

See I am now of the view that Pakistani qaum is kept hungry, kept poor, kept in dire straits by design. the designers are of course the ones that have manipulated the state for affairs for the longest period of time. GHQ!
 
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PDM is trying their best for their personal gain, no effort for well being of the people.. But check this...

Flc4AlpaYAAAfQq
 
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