Imran Khan may back down on resignation demand: sources

[Viper0011.]

No Anyone who got killed or hurt was all due to Punjab govt going around shooting people! Nowhere in the constitution does it say you cant support your party or does it say that those who sitting down in stubborn manner (in support of their party) should be put to death...Address the wrong doings or should I say the pathetic management out of fear of a case....Democracy allows political disagreement it is not a dictatorship where you need to keep it shut and bow to rubbish! Nor it is a monarchy where you cant voice out...

We have protests in Missouri. We have riot control and everything else using Tear Gas and all to control the riots to make sure no public safety is in danger. NO ONE from the riots has said anything about toppling the government. Imagine if they did or if they tried to attack the police or destroy public property, how far these guys would go to protect ordinary citizens?

Here you are, spreading violence, because of IK and Mullah Greed's violent threats and calls, people got killed, policemen kidnapped and injured and both police and innocent died. If you get your head out of Taliban Khan's as*, you'll see the difference. Police didn't attack people sleeping at HOME. They attacked the ones who attacked the Police and threatened to do killings snd property destruction. If you need pictures, they are ALL on youtube.

Next, if IK goes any further, NS should file terrorism and treason charges against IK as it is all a well documented case now. IK goes to Jail, Mullah Greed goes to Gitmo by the Canadians (that is if they don't straight up kick him out due to spreading terrorism). And this drama end that cost 300 billion and more, plus bad reputation and plus innocents killed and injured. What an amateur leader IK and his violent members are, no one should ever vote for these idiots again.

Democracy isn't to attack people, kidnap policemen, instigate violence like the Taliban do, or threaten to take over the government of instruct your followers to go kill the ruling leadership OR NOT TALK when the entire political leadership wants to discuss this. These are all extremist based politics that both the extremists and terrorist leaders in this case are planing. Democracy means, discuss and get your demands by give and take. Here, its violence, threats, personal greed by IK to be in power and 0 public benefit or care to resolve anything by dialogue. He's made this country suffer just like Musharraf and Zardari. How could a few thousand be allowed to hi jack a majority of 200 million people that have nothing to do with this? Supreme Court will put these clowns inside the bars in no time as all of this is unconstitutional.

 

[Dubious]

Imagine if they did or if they tried to attack the police or destroy public property, how far these guys would go to protect ordinary citizens?

So is that justifying killing them in Model Town?

Here you are, spreading violence, because of IK and Mullah Greed's violent threats and calls, people got killed, policemen kidnapped and injured and both police and innocent died. If you get your head out of Taliban Khan's as*, you'll see the difference. Police didn't attack people sleeping at HOME. They attacked the ones who attacked the Police and threatened to do killings snd property destruction. If you need pictures, they are ALL on youtube.

That is the problem with insecure people...They call change as violence!

People got killed coz some trigger happy bastard called the shots! And no he deserves to be called nothing better...I have repeatedly asked who that guy with the silky hair and 2 guns (1 in each hand) was...The same guy who was going around shooting, getting shabash from police officers ...same man who was hugging policemen...Who the HELL WAS THAT? How is it the police felt threatened enough to kill civilians sitting at some barrels but felt the urge to hug one with 2 guns in his hands? Who was being threatened and whose security were the police securing that led to the shooting of civilians? How was that not spreading violence? What about the police watching from all sides as GULLU BUTT broke car windows and went around like a pagal kutta? Which protest was he a part of? Pry answer this part first before your pages of lectures all of which ignoring this point!

NS should file terrorism and treason charges against IK

What about the failure of controlling the situations under NS and SS?

Like Gullu Butt?

Model Town death are on SS's hands

FATA under faderal being shunned by everyone??

Polio crap still going on what is the selected health minister doing?

What about education? Is giving laptops with mujrah on them a step towards improvement?

 

[Viper0011.]

So is that justifying killing them in Model Town?



That is the problem with insecure people...They call change as violence!

People got killed coz some trigger happy bastard called the shots! And no he deserves to be called nothing better...I have repeatedly asked who that guy with the silky hair and 2 guns (1 in each hand) was...The same guy who was going around shooting, getting shabash from police officers ...same man who was hugging policemen...Who the HELL WAS THAT? How is it the police felt threatened enough to kill civilians sitting at some barrels but felt the urge to hug one with 2 guns in his hands? Who was being threatened and whose security were the police securing that led to the shooting of civilians? How was that not spreading violence? What about the police watching from all sides as GULLU BUTT broke car windows and went around like a pagal kutta? Which protest was he a part of? Pry answer this part first before your pages of lectures all of which ignoring this point!

1) Justifying? NO, but if the law was broken and dangerous activities was made that threatened police, than ABSOLUTELY. I am no judge so the judges have to see the evidence and decide. But if people threatened the police, the public safety and tried to act hostile in highly tense situations, I can believe that Police and law enforcement would act and some will get killed. Specially when the leader has already issued many statements instigating violence. That's why I keep saying, Qadri has a jail waiting either in Pakistan or in Canada due to instigating murders, terrorism and treason. Watch what happens in the next few weeks.

2) Show me ONE legal proof that NS or SS called the shots. Second, if you DO have so many credible proofs then why are you running your mouth like a Cow after her meals here? Take the proofs to a court and get NS or SS penalized IF they issued a call to shoot that the COURT will agree with you was done in revenge.
If it was due to some actions others were taken, you'll have no place to justify it as Police will use force if threatened or see public safety under threat.

3) If ONE person broke car windows and all....MANY KILLED people and kidnapped policemen and burnt buses, toll plaza's, etc, etc. What happened to them? They should be indicted on terrorism charges as they tried to kill the policemen an destroyed public property. WAY BEYOND hitting a few people and breaking car windows. Sad to see your brain fog doesn't let you see the difference. You see every situation through your closed minded eyes and with the little 30K people's support you have.

I am ashamed of writing to people who showed up to "change the government" through 30K people (LOL) out of 200 Million. Are you not ashamed??? Bet you are not

 

[Rahi812]

We have protests in Missouri. We have riot control and everything else using Tear Gas and all to control the riots to make sure no public safety is in danger. NO ONE from the riots has said anything about toppling the government. Imagine if they did or if they tried to attack the police or destroy public property, how far these guys would go to protect ordinary citizens?

Here you are, spreading violence, because of IK and Mullah Greed's violent threats and calls, people got killed, policemen kidnapped and injured and both police and innocent died. If you get your head out of Taliban Khan's as*, you'll see the difference. Police didn't attack people sleeping at HOME. They attacked the ones who attacked the Police and threatened to do killings snd property destruction. If you need pictures, they are ALL on youtube.

Next, if IK goes any further, NS should file terrorism and treason charges against IK as it is all a well documented case now. IK goes to Jail, Mullah Greed goes to Gitmo by the Canadians (that is if they don't straight up kick him out due to spreading terrorism). And this drama end that cost 300 billion and more, plus bad reputation and plus innocents killed and injured. What a leadership, no one should ever vote for these idiots again.

Democracy isn't to attack people, kidnap policemen, instigate violence like the Taliban do, or threaten to take over the government of instruct your followers to go kill the ruling leadership OR NOT TALK when the entire political leadership wants to discuss this. These are all extremist based politics that both the extremists and terrorist leaders in this case are planing. Democracy means, discuss and get your demands by give and take. Here, its violence, threats, personal greed by IK to be in power and 0 public benefit or care to resolve anything by dialogue. He's made this country suffer just like Musharraf and Zardari. How could a few thousand be allowed to hi jack a majority of 200 million people that have nothing to do with this? Supreme Court will put these clowns inside the bars in no time as all of this is unconstitutional.

You are comparing Pakistan with the U.S, these are two completely different scenarios. The country like Pakistan have lots of power players and they show their power on the streets.

IK & TUQ are on the streets because the establishment has given them a green signal.

International powers also show their power in these sorts of power play.

In U.S power players & the establishment settle their concerns in close rooms. Institutions are more established so no power player has to go on the streets.

Gradually, when institutions would be developed in Pakistan the U.S style of power politics be a norm.

Right now everyone is watching how this whole power play would be unrolled.

 

[Viper0011.]

You are comparing Pakistan with the U.S, these are two completely different scenarios. The country like Pakistan have lots of power players and they show their power on the streets.
IK & TUQ are on the streets because the establishment has given them a green signal.
International powers also show their power in these sorts of power play.
In U.S power players & the establishment settle their concerns in close rooms. Institutions are more established so no power player has to go on the streets.
Gradually, when institutions would be developed in Pakistan the U.S style of power politics be a norm.
Right now everyone is watching how this whole power play would be unrolled.

Power Play is everywhere. BUT the people are smart enough to know which Power Play will destroy the country and which won't. This here, would destroy the country.
Next, the establishment is almost a part of the past. If there wasn't a civil government right now and with ops winding down in Afghanistan and a MUCH assertive India and its lobby EVERYWHERE. Pakistan's establishment would start to have a hard time in getting 9MM Pistols from abroad. Let alone toys like the -16's Abraams, and anything sophisticated for that matter. A few more years, if you don't play smart right now and through a Democratic Government that runs the economy the way it is being set to run, you won't have a chance in trade, arms, etc, etc as India will beat you to everything. Look around you, where Indian influence doesn't work (Which is rare) you'll have Israeli or American influence working for the Indians. So you are pretty much locked down.
Now if you guys allow to run the system and let people show a calm, moderate and a positive side of your country like the current government was doing, you'd actually have a chance to become something in the world.

The world isn't watching, the world is going, here we go again. The extremist Pakistan and its extremist people at their best. 30K people turning violent to do a Tribal Civil Rest over 200 MILLION strong nation. Go figure. This is what I've been saying, IK wants body bags and that was his plan, lie and to get to Islamabad somehow and then announce violence.
Amazing how combine 60K people would do civil unrest.
If I was NS, I'd call up my supporters and take a MILLION people to Islamabad and show NO to ANY UNREST. Let people clear it up. If Violence in your country is the end game, then let it be between Democratic loving people and violent people like IK. I am sure democracy would win. What an IDIOT resorting to violence to get to the Prime Minister seat which he will never win.

 

[Waffen SS]

IK's only hope lies in getting a few dead bodies to revive his politics. The Red Zone might get breached and a few people may end up dead. Then, IK would blame the government for the bloodshed and become a victim.

As a pathetic and stupid nation, we adore and romanticize badmaashs, terrorists and hooligans. Since centuries, we love those warriors who pillaged these lands. We even named a few missiles in their names.

This idiotic nation would never contemplate that the government needs to use force sometimes and blood has to be spilled. No matter how unreasonable demands are being put forward by lunatics like TTP and PTI recently, the vast majority of the fools want the government to APPEASE these terrorists.

 

[joekrish]

Had a very good impression about IK but looks like he is no different from AAP.......sad.

 

[Rahi812]

Had a very good impression about IK but looks like he is no different from AAP.......sad.

The difference between AAP & IK is, AAP was not backed by the establishment. They were trying to catch other small parties so that they could get more space.

IK is completely playing his game on the establishment. Just imagine if establishment gets their tables straight with Nawaz Sharif, who is an old political player and knows all these power games, then what's gonna be the standing of IK.

Power Play is everywhere. BUT the people are smart enough to know which Power Play will destroy the country and which won't. This here, would destroy the country.
Next, the establishment is almost a part of the past. If there wasn't a civil government right now and with ops winding down in Afghanistan and a MUCH assertive India and its lobby EVERYWHERE. Pakistan's establishment would start to have a hard time in getting 9MM Pistols from abroad. Let alone toys like the -16's Abraams, and anything sophisticated for that matter. A few more years, if you don't play smart right now and through a Democratic Government that runs the economy the way it is being set to run, you won't have a chance in trade, arms, etc, etc as India will beat you to everything. Look around you, where Indian influence doesn't work (Which is rare) you'll have Israeli or American influence working for the Indians. So you are pretty much locked down.
Now if you guys allow to run the system and let people show a calm, moderate and a positive side of your country like the current government was doing, you'd actually have a chance to become something in the world.

The world isn't watching, the world is going, here we go again. The extremist Pakistan and its extremist people at their best. 30K people turning violent to do a Tribal Civil Rest over 200 MILLION strong nation. Go figure. This is what I've been saying, IK wants body bags and that was his plan, lie and to get to Islamabad somehow and then announce violence.
Amazing how combine 60K people would do civil unrest.
If I was NS, I'd call up my supporters and take a MILLION people to Islamabad and show NO to ANY UNREST. Let people clear it up. If Violence in your country is the end game, then let it be between Democratic loving people and violent people like IK. I am sure democracy would win. What an IDIOT resorting to violence to get to the Prime Minister seat which he will never win.

I agree with your arguments the only problem is right now PPP & PMLN both are the pawns of the establishment.

NS can make his move with the people if the people could be his strength when only strength in the country is the establishment, then you can imagine the whole scene of power game.

 

[Viper0011.]

NS can make his move with the people if the people could be his strength when only strength in the country is the establishment, then you can imagine the whole scene of power game.

NS has good intentions for the country. His team has done a lot and proof is showing up everywhere even internationally. He ALLOWED this idiot IK to form a government when he didn't have to. But that was his will to strengthen and introduce a system. Here's the payback by selfish and power hungry IK, he's shi*t in the same place where he ate, he's cutting the SAME hand who helped him lead KPK and he's not destroying the same country he's supposed to have allegiance with.
AFA the establishment goes, trust me ONE real march with a couple of million people and there won't be an establishment. They are ONLY there till the people actually wake up and realize these idiots in the military had deprived them from a better life and the future. Military is a very respectful institution and it should do its great work in protecting borders. They are not politician and can NEVER run a country. A great soldier from the SSG doesn't know to negotiate and run an economy and all. He knows how to take orders, execute them and kill the enemy. You can see that mentality here in IK's approach, instead of talking to others to let the democratic system run, he wants to "kill" the enemy. Sad part is, his brain's perceived enemy gave him the right to govern KPK to begin with and by doing crap like "Civil Disturbance", in fact, IK has become a public enemy number 1. This could destroy the government. NS and others are already looking at it thinking may be this is how the establishment will learn one day, that they really take a few million to Islamabad.

 

[Jungibaaz]

It was nonsensical demand in the first place. I have been against Azadi March since day one. A winning party has all the right to choose the right premier of their choice, if the opposition have problem they have the choice of vote of no confidence. If they can't oust the Premier through vote of no-confidence, they just can't.

PS: Imagine if PTI wins tomorrow and IK becomes Prime Minister, PML-N starts demanding for resignation of Imran... PTI would have all the right to keep any elected member of their choice as Premier. The rules of the game are simple

100% agree. I even put my time and effort supporting PTI. But I was against Azadi march since it was announced too.

 

[RazPaK]

100% agree. I even put my time and effort supporting PTI. But I was against Azadi march since it was announced too.

Goon league must answer for Model town killings and corruption. We the people are tired of the fuckery.

 

[Viper0011.]

Goon league must answer for Model town killings and corruption. We the people are tired of the fuckery.

I think the Taliban Khan and Mullah Greed need to answer to the court for Treason and Terrorism, for getting people killed, instigating terrorism and COMMITTING unconstitutional acts, punishment of which is Death or Life in Jail. This is crazy, they kidnapped police officers, killed policemen and others, properties burnt, buses and cars and toll plaza's destroyed and now, Civil Unrest? Total 55 K people abusing and raping the democratic right and the entire system for 200 MILLION people? Are you nuts??? People trying to destroy the country and its system come under treason and go for maximum punishment.

 

[Hyde]

Goon league must answer for Model town killings and corruption. We the people are tired of the fuckery.

It is still unclear who was responsible for the Model Town. It could be anybody from the present police officer in charge to the administration, one minister, several ministers, chief minister, Prime Minister, we are yet to see the report of fact finding committee to grasp the idea of who truly was to be blamed.

The last time similar incident took place, Bhutto was hanged and Zia ul Haq came to power. If we are going to see another martial law, PTI is going to lose most out of it.

In this whole saga of Anarchy March, there has been repeat of 1977 protests and 1971 war.. Not sure if we are going to witness either of the two or the better future (lost hope from IK's advisory board unless sanity really prevails).

 

[Jungibaaz]

Goon league must answer for Model town killings and corruption. We the people are tired of the fuckery.

I agree, so should TuQ.

There's a time and place and a way, you've spend time in the world's most successful democracy, you know this is not the way.

 

[Rahi812]

NS has good intentions for the country. His team has done a lot and proof is showing up everywhere even internationally. He ALLOWED this idiot IK to form a government when he didn't have to. But that was his will to strengthen and introduce a system. Here's the payback by selfish and power hungry IK, he's shi*t in the same place where he ate, he's cutting the SAME hand who helped him lead KPK and he's not destroying the same country he's supposed to have allegiance with.
AFA the establishment goes, trust me ONE real march with a couple of million people and there won't be an establishment. They are ONLY there till the people actually wake up and realize these idiots in the military had deprived them from a better life and the future. Military is a very respectful institution and it should do its great work in protecting borders. They are not politician and can NEVER run a country. A great soldier from the SSG doesn't know to negotiate and run an economy and all. He knows how to take orders, execute them and kill the enemy. You can see that mentality here in IK's approach, instead of talking to others to let the democratic system run, he wants to "kill" the enemy. Sad part is, his brain's perceived enemy gave him the right to govern KPK to begin with and by doing crap like "Civil Disturbance", in fact, IK has become a public enemy number 1. This could destroy the government. NS and others are already looking at it thinking may be this is how the establishment will learn one day, that they really take a few million to Islamabad.

The problem with all these politicians are that they rely too much on the establishment. NS got two third majority in the assembly that was all pre-planned.

All these development projects they are doing without the involvement of any construction company of Pakistan and these are all based on the Chinese and Turkey companies which gives the highest kickbacks in their projects.

This whole thing makes other people tempted when they don't get any share.

I believe that IK would be the worst choice for the country, but I can accept that worst choice if I get rid of monarchy and oligarchy of NS.