Imran Khan: Islamic welfare state a must

[somebozo]

sorry that has nothing to do with anything

the so called jihad with foreign elements in Pakistan will end if we withdraw from amreeka's war. that cancer is removed when they can no longer brainwash the people into thinking PA is acting as mercenaries for the US.

under no explanation it is justifiable that a rag tag organisation pick arms against the state. The only answer to this menace is a crushing blow to terrorist. No negotiation with criminals, take no quarter give none! Please keep your jamati and tableegi jehad lectures to yourself.

as for resources, there are plenty here. you can look up the statistics of estimated reserves in mineral, coal, gold and iron ore etc. deposits. conservatively, it numbers well into the hundreds of billions. we just can't extract it because of corrupt leaders and the chaos they've created all over.

Selling resources is neither a smart economic plan nor sustainable. Beside Pakistan wont be able to feed 200 million people even if it were to become Saudi Arabia of oil. Investing into people and sustainable development is the way to the future. We just cant extract it because they are not viable / feasible....period..not everything can be blamed on corrupt leaders. Trust me if those resources were viable the same corrupt leaders would champion the cause of their extraction...Even the so called gold Pakistan posses at Riko Deq is found among the hard stone which must be grinded first and then extracted..a very expensive process and not very economical with the current gold prices.

why do some think that industrialization and an islamic system of governance are mutually exclusive? the economic policy, so long as it benefits the people not deprive them, can very much include rapid industrialization and growth in manufacturing. but this can only be done when you have a just system, free from exploitation and corruption, which is best achieved with the system proposed by Imran.

Show me one country which is following Islamic system and its considered a leading force in industrialized world? I can show you the opposites more than required!

Zia was the one who brought In all this terrorism and sectarian violence.
Moreover, my impression of patriotism is not licking Saudi Arabians feet, which Zia did to the max. Thanks to him, Pakistan got Wahhabi teaching.

Musharraf was just trying to eradicate what Zia started. Musharraf had to join WOT because it was the only way Pakistan would be safe from a US invasion.
Also, If The people of KPK think Pakistan Army is agrgressor when they send artillery strikes, jet fire, Helis, then I wonder what they think when TTP blows their villages and houses up? Is this Pashtun nationalism? Pashtun > Pakistan?

Bhutto with his Islamic socialism laid the first brick and the country when into downward spiral right after that..So now Imran trying to prime up the same Islamic socialism send shivers down my spine!

The flood of willing refugees was reduced to a mere trickle by imposing visas and closing the borders to refugges who wanted to cross over thus stranding them in India. That is the biggest abandonment.

And that was a good thing or else the entire Pakistan would have become consumed by MQM. Immigration to Pakistan was the right of people who benefited Pakistan, not those who came to hoard on job and economic benefits!

 

[RazorMC]

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all because he lacked the spine to tell americans f**k off. you can be a patriot or a coward. zia was the former, mush the latter.

Zia was a patriot ?

 

[qamar1990]

Please we do not want these economic opportunists! Ummah brotherhood does not print green backs if ya know what I mean!



Yep due to different religio-ethnic makeup than mainland india..Jinnah was not OBL!

where the hell are you even from dude? r u sure your pakistani?
who sed jinnah was obL? pakistan was created as a homeland for muslims that is fact you better get in your head, we could've lived fine with hindus if it was created but it was created so we can have our own rules and laws according to our religion get that in your head you bozo.

Zia was the one who brought In all this terrorism and sectarian violence.
Moreover, my impression of patriotism is not licking Saudi Arabians feet, which Zia did to the max. Thanks to him, Pakistan got Wahhabi teaching.

Musharraf was just trying to eradicate what Zia started. Musharraf had to join WOT because it was the only way Pakistan would be safe from a US invasion.
Also, If The people of KPK think Pakistan Army is agrgressor when they send artillery strikes, jet fire, Helis, then I wonder what they think when TTP blows their villages and houses up? Is this Pashtun nationalism? Pashtun > Pakistan?

zia bought all this? you gotta be kidding me. it was the soviets who forced us to create this, the fighters we had back then were good muslims fighting against the invaders but these pakistani talibans are mercenaries they are not muslims how can a muslim bomb mosques? i mean we all ***** and muslims we know what we thought no matter how radical the imams are they dont teach you to kill fellow muslims and bomb mosques. these are foriegn elements that came recently into the country. musharraf is a good president as a well who saved the country, if he didnt join america against the al qaida then pakistan certainly wouldve been invaded by nw.

 

[somebozo]

where the hell are you even from dude? r u sure your pakistani?
who sed jinnah was obL? pakistan was created as a homeland for muslims that is fact you better get in your head, we could've lived fine with hindus if it was created but it was created so we can have our own rules and laws according to our religion get that in your head you bozo.

No Pakistani in their right mind wants to live with stone age laws from 7th century that is some mullah propaganda..Islam will result in a very high brain drain for Pakistan just like Iran. Get over your obsession...nobody wants shariah in Pakistan.

 

[qamar1990]

Zia was a patriot ?

yh he was a patriot. he cared more about this country then anybody on this forum.

 

[qamar1990]

No Pakistani in their right mind wants to live with stone age laws from 7th century that is some mullah propaganda..Islam will result in a very high brain drain for Pakistan just like Iran. Get over your obsession...nobody wants shariah in Pakistan.

lmao where are getting your info from?
7th centaury laws? we had muslim democracy in the seventh centaury something some countries still dont have today!
what is wrong with these laws? what are your concerns with them? just list them.

you didnt answer my question about weather your were actually a pakistani

 

[somebozo]

lmao where are getting your info from?
7th centaury laws? we had muslim democracy in the seventh centaury something some countries still dont have today!
what is wrong with these laws? what are your concerns with them? just list them.

you didnt answer my question about weather your were actually a pakistani

Ohh really..so how many people voted for the Khalifas? Why were khalifas murdered by their subjects and plunged into civil wars due to their unpopularity? please dont sit yourself in USA under the pleasure of secular freedoms and question other people nationalities..That right should be reserved against disco molvi traitors like you!

Tell me how is Islamic democracy playing a role in USA? Matter of fact there is no such thing as democracy in Islam!

I am as Pakistani as anyone can get this is why I do not wish to bestow 7th century hell on my people. You on other hand looks like one of those jamati beneficiary of western freedoms!

 

[qamar1990]

These good muslims did too good to Afghanistan..it started to resemble 7th century Arabia...perhaps time travel is a reality now!
Please stop posting your BS with American flag in your profile. People of Pakistan are sick and tired of disco molvis like these who themselves enjoy the secular freedoms of west but wish to bestow their brethren with 7th century barbarianism. Bet you are a jamati too!



So he filled it up with terrorist..you sir are a f_cking idiot!

it started resemble seventh centaury arabia becuase of the war and fighting!
why isnt malaysia resembling 7th centaury arabia?
i got an american flag cuz im an american citizen who lives in america.
people in pakistan are sick of people like you bringing your garbage ways of lifes into our country and trying to destroy our culture and way of life. we dont need another european country we just need a developed pakistan like imran khan enviosions it.
what is a jamati? im a muslim not hypocrite like you pretending to be a muslim living in saudia.


im an idiot? why dont you just prove me wrong.

 

[RazorMC]

yh he was a patriot. he cared more about this country then anybody on this forum.

Are you serious? Or is this just a joke?
What Zia did was treachery to the State and to Islam itself.

 

[somebozo]

it started resemble seventh centaury arabia becuase of the war and fighting!
why isnt malaysia resembling 7th centaury arabia?
i got an american flag cuz im an american citizen who lives in america.
people in pakistan are sick of people like you bringing your garbage ways of lifes into our country and trying to destroy our culture and way of life. we dont need another european country we just need a developed pakistan like imran khan enviosions it.
what is a jamati? im a muslim not hypocrite like you pretending to be a muslim living in saudia.


im an idiot? why dont you just prove me wrong.

Malaysia is very much an open society heck they even have gambling, clubs and alcohol..

People of Pakistan are sick of two faced jamati traitors who enjoy for themselves western freedoms and even keep American passports but wish to bestow 7th century stone age on their people back home. You sir is a sell out and traitor! Atleast I am no American citizen and do not bear dual nationality..I wish to bestow upon my own people the same freedoms you are enjoying in USA and islam cannot provide these freedoms. If you have so much concerns about religion and Pakistan, please abandon your comforts in the US of A and try campaigning Shariah4Pakistan!

So you are telling me that Talibans were great pattrons of science, tech, education, media, progress and never banned TV, Radio, Internet and technology?

You are a jamati troll of finest purity! Wonder how do American even lets these kind of snakes into their country let alone issue them american citizenships!

idiots cannot be proven wrong otherwise they wouldn't be called idiots!

Ohh and since you are american citizen you should worry about Shariah$USA..leave Pakistan alone and let Pakistans have an air of peace!

 

[qamar1990]

Ohh really..so how many people voted for the Khalifas? Why were khalifas murdered by their subjects and plunged into civil wars due to their unpopularity? please dont sit yourself in USA under the pleasure of secular freedoms and question other people nationalities..That right should be reserved against disco molvi traitors like you!

Tell me how is Islamic democracy playing a role in USA? Matter of fact there is no such thing as democracy in Islam!

I am as Pakistani as anyone can get this is why I do not wish to bestow 7th century hell on my people. You on other hand looks like one of those jamati beneficiary of western freedoms!

since you dont know that khalifas were voted for that shows you dont know a rats *** about islamic. the prophet muhammad said one a slave will be your leader and you will follow him.
how many pakistanis have you helped you internet warrior?
i pay my zakat every year and more help my fellow pakistani what do you do for your country?


the usa is not a islamic country created for muslims or anybody, it was created for everybody.
i dont really see where your going with your ranting lol.
unless you going to actually prove something wrong or say something worth reading dont reply.
i dont care about opinions they mean nothing to me i know that you dont know crap.

 

[pkuser2k12]

This Imran Khan is resembling more and more like a burger version of PMLN. SOmeone tell this stupid fella that the islamic welfare state they envision is neither sustainable nor remotely possible because it relies on easy source of massive wealth which is only possible by two means.

1. Invade, loot and plunder - the so called jihad.
2. Discover huge reserves of oil

Pakistan is in no position for either. May be it will be a much better idea to envision ourselves as an industrially mighty state like USA, Japan or Germany!

will you ever stop vomiting kia apnay mamay usa aur west ko bhool gaya jo kuton ki tarhan dunyan k reserves kha rahay hayn iraq,libya and saudi colleboration say

 

[A1Kaid]

You can't have a welfare state when very few Pakistani citizens pay taxes. Besides, a welfare state will reduce incentive for Pakistani society to work hard and be productice since many will be lazy and become dependent on the state welfare handouts for their living. I don't mind providing welfare to the poorest of society that should be done, no one should be begging for money in Pakistan to eat to what have you. So careful measures have to be adopted before implementing welfare, instead of giving direct money you could just provide food rations to the poor on a monthly basis.

 

[somebozo]

the usa is not a islamic country created for muslims or anybody, it was created for everybody.
i dont really see where your going with your ranting lol.
unless you going to actually prove something wrong or say something worth reading dont reply.
i dont care about opinions they mean nothing to me i know that you dont know crap.

So why are you enjoying free life style in a kaffir country? Thats hypocrisy at its best!

Why don't you mind your own business Mr Amreeke Citizen before wishing hell for citizens of Pakistan? May be you need to be reported to FBI as a potential Islamist fundo so they can waterboard you and get that puritian shaitan out of your mind..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So why are you enjoying free life style in a kaffir country? Thats hypocrisy at its best!

Its not even funny when u talk like that...