Imran Khan Approves Interim Province Status For Gilgit-Baltistan

[Arsalan]

where is the prize..

You wont feel it right now, give it some time

 

[war&peace]

You wont feel it right now, give it some time

you are feeling right now it means

 

[Arsalan]

you are feeling right now it means

Oh yeah, well i have given you the gift so why wont i know about it?

Dont be naughty, i am serious, you will see what i said in a couple of days. Trust me on this.

 

[Osiris]

Neither we are giving up our argument nor you are happy.

You are whining like bharatis do 24/7 and you need to cut that.

After GB becomes a province of Pakistan, your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on, so yes we are happy.

 

[Areesh]

After GB becomes a province of Pakistan, your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on, so yes we are happy.

That's what you think. We don't think so.

You can be happy or you can cry. Your choice.

Even though Indian government would whine but that is just one of many things that they would whine about in coming years.

 

[war&peace]

Oh yeah, well i have given you the gift so why wont i know about it?

Dont be naughty, i am serious, you will see what i said in a couple of days. Trust me on this.

No you didn't. Rather yourself used the prize

Okay. I will be really happy if the provinces are devolved and districts are made units directly under the command of centre with a lot of provincial authority given to them. We need to homogenise the society to become a nation.

 

[ALi Rizwan]

Which claim do you need a source for, tell me exactly. Do you not know, GB which was previously known as Northern Areas in UN archives was a part of princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.
Of course we are more than happy, that you are giving up on your argument that J&K is a disputed territory and are finally doing, what is good for the people. We already did that, back in 1950s.

So what?????
Difference b/w India and Pakistan is
People of Giligit Baltistan demand merger with Pakistan.
In Indian Occupied Kashmir you have to deploy half a million army just to maintain your hold.

& FACT is Northern AREA was never ever part of Kashmir.
That Son of A W***** only imposed TAXES and let local leaders rulers. He makes people life hell that's why when the first chance people get they wipe out the Whole Army of the DOGRA FORCE (R.I.H).

 

[Osiris]

That's what you think. We don't think so.

You can be happy or you can cry. Your choice.

Even though Indian government would whine but that is just one of many things that they would whine about in coming years.

It is plain and simple logic, as shown earlier.

"You can't claim Jammu and Kashmir to be a disputed territory, while claiming a part of Jammu & Kashmir as an integral part of Pakistan."

If you deny that, you are just an idiot.

So what?????
Difference b/w India and Pakistan is
People of Giligit Baltistan demand merger with Pakistan.
In Indian Occupied Kashmir you have to deploy half a million army just to maintain your hold.

& FACT is Northern AREA was never ever part of Kashmir.
That Son of A W***** only imposed TAXES and let local leaders rulers. He makes people life hell that's why when the first chance people get they wipe out the Whole Army of the DOGRA FORCE (R.I.H).

Don't really care about your re-revised history. Until now Pakistan has never protested on GB being included as a part of Jammu Kashmir in UN, as it thought it would help it garner more votes in a plebiscite.

So yes GB officially recognized as part of Jammu and Kashmir by the entire world.

 

[Arsalan]

No you didn't. Rather yourself used the prize

Okay. I will be really happy if the provinces are devolved and districts are made units directly under the command of centre with a lot of provincial authority given to them. We need to homogenise the society to become a nation.

Provinces are made for administrative reasons dear. With a population so large such as our we will always have the need to divide these into smaller blocks and then even smaller ones within these to manage everything. Thus the provinces and districts!

As for the prize, well, again, wait and see!

 

[hussain0216]

After GB becomes a province of Pakistan, your argument doesn't have a leg to stand on, so yes we are happy.

Kashmir is a muslim majority state and as per the peoples desire want the implementation of partition so they can seperate from hindus whom they distrust

The Kashmiris throw stones at you for a reason

Azad kashmir, GB is a muslim part
Of a muslim state

Indian occcupied kashmir is unfinished business

 

[war&peace]

Provinces are made for administrative reasons dear. With a population so large such as our we will always have the need to divide these into smaller blocks and then even smaller ones within these to manage everything. Thus the provinces and districts!

As for the prize, well, again, wait and see!

Dear ever heard about a thing called technology? Provinces are relics from the past.. now districts can be easily controlled directly by a central govt. Provinces and states are from past centuries where the fastest mode of transport was horse and messenger pigeons. Sultan in Delhi wouldn't know what happened in Bengal for months and vice-versa. But a citizen in Baluchistan can report an incident using citizens portal directly to the PM.

 

[Arsalan]

Dear ever heard about a thing called technology? Provinces are relics from the past.. now districts can be easily controlled directly by a central govt. Provinces and states are from past centuries where the fastest mode of transport was horse and messenger pigeons. Sultan in Delhi wouldn't know what happened in Bengal for months and vice-versa. But a citizen in Baluchistan can report an incident using citizens portal directly to the PM.

Its true. Technology (even though it seems i have heard the word for the first time EVER) will make things easier but i hope you also realize the fact that same technology have created new problems as well. The issues a farmer in Punjab had to report to Sultan in Dehli cannot be compared to what the current problems of our people are. Personally, i think that managing smaller blocks of the whole country and those blocks being under province and those province under center will make things more manageable!

 

[valkyr_96]

Which claim do you need a source for, tell me exactly. Do you not know, GB which was previously known as Northern Areas in UN archives was a part of princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.

an explicit statement which states the same I.e. gilgit baltistan, pak administered JK and Indian adminstered JK as a collective referred to as Jammu and Kashmir, as you have pointed out that northern areas are now referred to as gilgit baltistan in un archives.

 

[Osiris]

Kashmir is a muslim majority state and as per the peoples desire want the implementation of partition so they can seperate from hindus whom they distrust

The Kashmiris throw stones at you for a reason

Azad kashmir, GB is a muslim part
Of a muslim state

Indian occcupied kashmir is unfinished business

Too many "Muslims" in single paragraph. Muslim desires, muslim partition, muslim state, muslim distrust.

Believe me, No body cares man, especially since Muslim are not indigenous to this land.

an explicit statement which states the same I.e. gilgit baltistan, pak administered JK and Indian adminstered JK as a collective referred to as Jammu and Kashmir, as you have pointed out that northern areas are now referred to as gilgit baltistan in un archives.

https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/uncom3.htm

https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/IN/DevelopmentsInKashmirJune2016ToApril2018.pdf

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

My parental home is in Multan which is the largest city in the S
south Punjab and would become its capital if the province is created. However even in Multan there is a huge population of Punjab speaking people and many villages are of entirely Punjabi. Some of our relatives are living in Khanewal and it majority speaks Punjab there. I think Punjab is the largest linguistic group, follow by Pashtoons and then Seraiki. BTW, my mother tongue is Urdu.

I lived in multan for 4 years... spent another 1 in Bahawalpur...


Multan if anything is today a very multicultural city.. with Baloch,Pakhtuns,Serikies,Panjabis & urdu speakers aswell as people from Haryana etc...

Why? Because it is a historic city .. one of the oldest living cities in the world.. and has been ruled by several dynasties.

The Pakhtuns & settled here from as far as Balochistan.

Than you have the Baloch living a stone throw away... who came and settled .. the Khetrans of Fort Monroe are a good example of assimilation .. they having settled on both sides southern Panjab & Balochistan border speak their own language called Khetrani influenced with seriki.. aswell as Balochi.

The Panjabis arent native but settlers .. some settling in Multan since centuries because how far is a city like Okara from multan? Lol..
And because a large number of migrants came from indian panjab (including haryana/mewat)...

And so did Urdu Speakers from diverse communities like Delhiwalas, Bohras etc..

If anything Bahawalpur is a true Seriki city.. the old capital of the powerful Bahawalpur state.. which neighbored Sindhi Mir States (all of whom speak a seriki+sindhi language— yet hold Sindhi customs,traditions and general way of life).