Imminent threat of China brings Vietnam and the US closer to India

[Star Wars]

@he-man so now you blame him to be a Chinese or Pakistani, when you don't like being called Pakistani ? Hypocrisy much ?

People should relax ....

 

[he-man]

@he-man so now you blame him to be a Chinese or Pakistani, when you don't like being called Pakistani ? Hypocrisy much ?

People should relax ....

PLS GO TO PREVIOUS PAGE AND READ HIS 100 WORD ATTACK ON ME

he has done that 2 times already,,,,just have a look mate at post 8 and 26

then u will understand that the guy is full of ****

 

[帅的一匹]

I don't see China pose any real threat to India. Hypochondriasis is the right word to describe some Indians.

 

[he-man]

I don't see China pose any real threat to India. Hypochondriasis is the right word to describe some Indians.

Tibetans thought the same....................then we know what happened

 

[kurup]

@isro2222 - Its unfortunate to rate a member as pakistani because of twa reasons

1. Its your personal opnion

2. Its Pakistan defense forum and labeling an Indian as Pakistani you are creating an awkward situation for many with out any specific reasons

3. It will be a great insult to label anyone a pakistani (especially to an Indian) when they are not .

 

[he-man]

3. It will be a great insult to label anyone a pakistani (especially to an Indian) when they are not .

and that to an indian sikh

 

[Parul]

@isro2222 He is a Sardar for Punjab not Pakistani!! Oh Balle Balle

 

[Hafizzz]

In a significant move India decided to offer a $100-million credit line to Vietnam to purchase military equipment which will be finalized during the visit of the General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam later this year. Usually, a privilege reserved for its immediate neighbours, this is the first time that New Delhi has extended a credit line for defense purchases to a far off nation. Delhi and Hanoi have been working towards building a robust partnership for the past few years.

It is instructive that India entered the fraught region of the South China Sea via Vietnam. India signed an agreement with Vietnam in October 2011 to expand and promote oil exploration in the South China Sea and then reconfirmed its decision to carry on despite the Chinese challenge to the legality of an Indian presence.

Beijing told New Delhi that its permission was needed for India’s state-owned oil and gas firm to explore for energy in the two Vietnamese blocks in those waters. But Vietnam quickly cited the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea to claim its sovereign rights over the two blocks in question. Hanoi has been publicly sparring with Beijing over the South China Sea for the last few years, so such a response was expected.

What was new, however, was New Delhi’s new-found aggression in taking on China. It immediately decided to support Hanoi’s claims. By accepting the Vietnamese invitation to explore oil and gas in Blocks 127 and 128, India’s state-owned oil company ONGC Videsh Ltd (OVL), not only expressed New Delhi’s desire to deepen its friendship with Vietnam, but ignored China’s warning to stay away.

This display of backbone helped India strengthen its relationship with Vietnam. If China wants to expand its presence in South Asia and the Indian Ocean region, New Delhi’s thinking goes, India can do the same thing in East Asia.

Hanoi is gradually becoming the linchpin of this eastward move by New Delhi. Hanoi fought a brief war with Beijing in 1979 and has grown wary of the Middle Kingdom’s increasing economic and military weight. That’s why in some quarters of New Delhi, Vietnam is already seen as a counterweight in the same way Pakistan has been for China.

That’s not to say good India-Vietnam relations wouldn’t exist otherwise. Vietnamese have traditionally held Indians in high regard because of the latter’s support for Vietnamese independence from France and their opposition to US involvement in the country. And New Delhi formulated a Look-East policy as early as 1991, to capitalize on East Asia’s economic growth. But the rise of China has given this relationship a powerful strategic, not to mention urgent, dimension.

Both sides realize that a stronger bilateral relationship starts with economic ties. The two countries signed an agreement in 2003 in which they envisioned creating an Arc of Advantage and Prosperity in Southeast Asia. So they have been boosting trade, especially after New Delhi signed a free-trade agreement with the Association of South-East Asian Nations in 2009 and concluded talks on Free Trade Agreement (FTA) on services and investment in 2012 which is expected to increase bilateral trade to $200 billion by 2022.

Both sides could still do more to enhance economic cooperation. Bilateral trade is much below the potential, given that India and Vietnam are major emerging economies.

The two countries also need to think creatively about expanding investment opportunities, especially in the energy, steel, and pharmaceutical sectors. This can be done by establishing stronger institutional mechanisms that review the economic relationship on a regular basis and take steps to enhance it.

New Delhi’s abiding interest in Vietnam, though, is in the defence realm. It wants to build relations with states like Vietnam that can act as pressure points against China.

With this in mind, it has been helping Hanoi beef up its naval and air capabilities.

Given that Vietnam and India use similar Russian and erstwhile Soviet defence platforms, New Delhi could easily offer defence technologies to Hanoi. Talks are ongoing for India to sell the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, an Indo-Russian joint venture. Such arms could allow Vietnam to project regional power and improve deterrence against China.

The two nations also have stakes in ensuring sea-lane security, as well as shared concerns about Chinese access to the Indian Ocean and the South China Sea. Hence, India is helping Vietnam to build capacity for repair and maintenance of its defence platforms. At the same time, the armed forces of the two states have started cooperating in areas like IT and English-language training of Vietnamese Army personnel. The two are also sharing their experiences in mountainous and jungle warfare.

Naval cooperation, however, remains the focus. Here, Vietnam has given India the right to use its port of Nha Trang in the south; the Indian Navy has already made several port calls. It is not entirely clear what the final arrangement would look like, but the symbolism of this is not lost on China.

The two countries potentially share a common friend — the US. New Delhi has steadily built relations with Washington in the past decade, while Vietnam has been courting America as the South China Sea becomes a flashpoint. As these three countries ponder how to manage China’s rise, they will be drawn closer together.

By lashing out against India for its dealings with Vietnam as well as with other states in East and Southeast Asia, China has shown it will try to deter strategic competitors from collaborating against it. But if both India and Vietnam stand firm, they could force Beijing to moderate its expansionist claims on the South China Sea and adopt a more conciliatory stance on other regional matters.

Imminent threat of China brings Vietnam and the US closer to India | idrw.org

^^^another rubbish article from Indian Defence Research to rally support from regional countries to form anti-China gang known as the String of Samosa !

 

[HariPrasad]

oh, dear, I am so worried.

Vietnam is going to buy made in india weapons.

but, wait a second, is that the same india that crashed its power grid last year? is that the same india which is still importing bullets? is that the same india which failed 6 out of 8 gslv launches.

oh, dear, I am so worried.

He is worried because we do not have the quality to match this.

The worst space-related disaster happened in Xichang, China? ...in 1996? | MetaFilter

 

[Tshering22]

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@Tshering22 atleast he would had searched does india produce CCTV camera or not (a country planted flag on moon surely must be producing one).... He knew how to open a thread but didnt knew how to search info on topic he opened thread.... Its a good thing indians talking against india unlike other country members who doesnt speak nothing against their country but the way in past indians bashed india and later they been told to change flag raises questions....

You can talk against india but bashing and making fun raises question. In china horrible things happens every each day. Be it rapes, murders, natural disasters, injustice etc etc. None chinese talks about it. Am not saying you should not talk bad about india but making fun of india surely raises question. The way this kid doing drama it seem he a attention seeker. Its my last reply in this thread as am not into 3rd dimension rules which is born, fight, eat, sh!t and die.

My friend, I have been following his threads for long time and there is not one place where he has spoken against the country. There is a fundamental problem in the defence and national policy management by this government and by babus in general across the country and that is what he tried to point out using sarcasm.

These things are all important because we take pride in things that have little actual meaning but all symbolic value. Everything we do has an elaborate ceremony before it succeeds especially in DEFENCE.

The point is that there is a flawed structure we are having and that has to change. I am not defending any person here, just saying that the real message is conveyed in a real concern in a sarcastic manner.

Let's not doubt anyone's nationality here. Most of us are mature adults here who are here to discuss issues concerning our countries. There are some jokers who enjoy false flags and think that they're doing some super james'-bond spying and fooling but they're just hormone-driven teenagers who cannot control their minds.

He-man is certainly not one of those kinds.

He is worried because we do not have the quality to match this.

The worst space-related disaster happened in Xichang, China? ...in 1996? | MetaFilter

Don't point that out.

Admitting and highlighting failures are not acceptable under 'Harmonious China' policy.

Everything is made genuine and everything functions in the first go without any problems at all.

 

[HariPrasad]

Don't point that out.

Admitting and highlighting failures are not acceptable under 'Harmonious China' policy.

Everything is made genuine and everything functions in the first go without any problems at all.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!! Graet said.

 

[Tshering22]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!! Graet said.

सच कह रहा हूँ, भाई । उनके यहाँ केवल कामयाबी को ही दिखाया जाता है । विश्वास नहीं होता तो Google कर के देख लो ।

 

[anant_s]

wtf is wrong with ppl here??
i praise what is good and have opened threads on mig-29k,su-30 ans maks-2013
heck even on chinese incursion and now i need to convince ppl,,,,wow



does this look pro chinese to u
http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/274117-maks-2013-indian-angle.html

or this

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/274117-maks-2013-indian-angle.html(sardar1987 was me,i deleted that account)

or this

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...tricted-our-army-only-see-chinese-alteri.html

or this

http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian...tricted-our-army-only-see-chinese-alteri.html

check my posts

Brother Tshering22 has already indicated what to do. A little maturity will help here. I too was angry the way u presented CCTV thread (thought it was flamebait and nothing more) and i remember Flamingo too indicating the same.
I do read all your threads and i donot have an iota of doubt of u being Indian.
But heres the point, a lot of people keep looking for points that ultimately turn even the most sincere threads into mud slinging / national chest thumping competition.
isro2222 is a senior member here and i would suggest u discuss issues one-on-one with him. name calling doesn't help and makes the whole thing look real ugly.

 

[PoKeMon]

oh, dear, I am so worried.

Vietnam is going to buy made in india weapons.

but, wait a second, is that the same india that crashed its power grid last year? is that the same india which is still importing bullets? is that the same india which failed 6 out of 8 gslv launches.

oh, dear, I am so worried.

Ok now dont pi$$ over here in fear.

 

[faithfulguy]

Or maybe we can simply ask them to come and clean out the secoolarist traitors who are giving a green flag to all our bordering threats to come in with a red carpet.

That way our Army will be saved from arguing endlessly with these traitors in political ranks and can do what htey do they best.

Vietnam is good at fighting unconventional wars. They are not good at politics.

YOu are on your own on that one. So how are the Indians treating you now. Do they still confuse you as Chinese.