Immigrants to Australia must embrace Western values and assimilate

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

Figures released this year show that in 2016, one in seven Sudanese-born Victorians aged 10 to 24 was charged with a crime.
Rita Panahi Blog Posts

There is enough crime in Australia without successive governments importing large numbers of people incapable or unwilling to respect our laws.

Elements of the Lebanese and Sudanese population continue to be over-represented in crime statistics, dramatically so in some categories.

Sudanese-born youth are more than 120 times as likely to commit an aggravated burglary, according to Victorian Crime Statistics Agency figures.

We learnt last year that two-thirds of those arrested for terrorism-related offences in Australia were from second- and third-generation Lebanese Muslim backgrounds.

And yet the mere mention of this by Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who noted the folly of Malcolm Fraser’s “Lebanon concession”, sent the usual race-baiting malcontents into a victim-playing frenzy with predictable cries of “racism” and “xenophobia”.

Lebanese Muslim Association president Samier Dandan accused the government of having a “toxic, assimilationist, nationalist” agenda and labelled Dutton’s comments “racist”, while Fairfax feminists called for his sacking.

Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young called Dutton “a racist bigot” and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten demanded he apologise for his “ignorant stupidity” and the “disgraceful comments he made about migrants in Australia”.

The Left’s customary reaction to inconvenient yet indisputable facts is to scream “Nazi, racist, bigot, Islamophobe” in the hope of silencing opposing views.

Such smears can be an effective tool in shutting down debate but they do not change the data or the incidence of violent crime.

Figures released this year show that in 2016, one in seven Sudanese-born Victorians aged 10 to 24 was charged with a crime.

Muslims are dramatically over-represented in the prison population: 9 per cent of prisoners, including 20 per cent of maximum-security prisoners, are from Muslim backgrounds.

A remarkable figure, given only about 3 per cent of the population identify as Muslim.

The statistics mirror what we’ve seen in NSW, and present serious concerns for the criminal justice system, particularly given the growing Muslim population in Australia.

Of course, most crime in this country is committed by Australian-born offenders, given that they are the vast majority of the population. But it is the extraordinary over-representation of some groups that needs attention.

Last week, we saw hundreds of “youths of African appearance” involved in a prolonged brawl around the St Kilda foreshore. Over several hours, they were involved in assaults, thefts and property damage, and yet police failed to make an arrest.

Inspector Jason Kelly said: “Their behaviour was just totally unacceptable, and I’d call on them to come forward … before we track them down.”

Surely such obvious criminality in a public place should see scores arrested, not just a call for the culprits to come in at their leisure.

Later that same day, County Court judge Elizabeth Gaynor allowed a young offender, who was spared jail despite arming himself with a sledgehammer during terrifying jewellery store robberies that netted over $200,000, to holiday in Sudan while on bail.

The decision was made despite concerns from prosecutors that Akon Mawien, 20, was a flight risk.

Is it any wonder that people are losing faith in the justice system?

As someone who has long advocated for both Australia’s high skilled immigration intake, as well as our generous humanitarian program, I understand the damage that is done when a minority of immigrants fail to assimilate.

It goes without saying that the vast majority of migrants are proud, productive members of Australian society and many migrant communities are under-represented in crime and imprisonment rates.

New Australians are often more patriotic and protective of this country than those fortunate enough to have been born here.

For many of us, this is truly the lucky country: welcoming, tolerant, peaceful and prosperous.

But for any individual or group to successfully integrate into Australian life, there needs to be an adherence to certain non-negotiables, including respecting the law.

Assimilation is not a dirty word. It is not only desirable, but imperative for a cohesive society.

If you can’t embrace core Western values of freedom, democracy and equality, then you have no business migrating to Australia.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/r...e/news-story/dd0635ce4092d496497f54e3faabc8c1

 

[CriticalThought]

Agreed. But what do you do about this problem now that these individuals are here? And how do you separate 'good migrant' from 'bad migrant'?

 

[KapitaanAli]

Immigrants to "Australia" must embrace the values of the island.

 

[hussain0216]

As soon as European immigrants embrace Aboriginal values and assimilate

 

[CriticalThought]

Immigrants to "Australia" must embrace the values of the island.
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As soon as European immigrants embrace Aboriginal values and assimilate

You obviously have no idea what Australian values are.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Western values. LOL. Right. Immigrants in Australia must immediately learn to wipe out inferior local cultures, use forced labor (slavery) to build their infrastructure and then come up with a socio-economic system where few live like kings on the backs of the many.

 

[Silverblaze]

Coexistence is the key. Those responsible for crimes should have harsh sentences.

Western values. LOL. Right. Immigrants in Australia must immediately learn to wipe out inferior local cultures, use forced labor (slavery) to build their infrastructure and then come up with a socio-economic system where few live like kings on the backs of the many.

True, but this is true for many systems introduced earlier. Immigrants of today have a choice and since the human development and opportunities are better in these countries they can go there and live in accordance with the law.

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

Agreed. But what do you do about this problem now that these individuals are here? And how do you separate 'good migrant' from 'bad migrant'?

You can't but if they commit a crime in Australia even if they are an Australian citizen they should be deported especially if they commit serious crimes like rape and murder, they should do their time in an Australian jail and then be put on the first flight out as soon as their sentence is over.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Coexistence is the key. Those responsible for crimes should have harsh sentences.



True, but this is true for many systems introduced earlier. Immigrants of today have a choice and since the human development and opportunities are better in these countries they can go there and live in accordance with the law.

Well yeah, obviously immigrants will have to abide by the LAWS of the countries they're in. But "assimilate" doesn't mean the same thing as "obey the law" and is open to interpretation. Many Muslim women immigrants, for example, still cover their hair in Western countries even though that's not exactly a "Western value".

You can't but if they commit a crime in Australia even if they are an Australian citizen they should be deported especially if they commit serious crimes like rape and murder, they should do their time in an Australian jail and then be put on the first flight out as soon as their sentence is over.

That's easier said than done and gets complicated. How about their children who were born and raised in Australia and speak no other language or know no other home? Are you in favor of deporting them too? Or should we separate families?

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

Well yeah, obviously immigrants will have to abide by the LAWS of the countries they're in. But "assimilate" doesn't mean the same thing as "obey the law" and is open to interpretation. Many Muslim women immigrants, for example, still cover their hair in Western countries even though that's not exactly a "Western value".



That's easier said than done and gets complicated. How about their children who were born and raised in Australia and speak no other language or know no other home? Are you in favor of deporting them too? Or should we separate families?

Yeah, it is hard but something needs to be done by causing grief to many people these killers cant be expected to live in a country that has given them so much unfortunately if the kids get caught in the middle then so be it they should not have committed the crime in the first place, I am not saying deport the kids but the people who have committed the crime

 

[Thetigerforces]

If you come to australia you need to fit in with australian values..... not the other way around. That's the only way you will be accepted here.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Yeah, it is hard but something needs to be done by causing grief to many people these killers cant be expected to live in a country that has given them so much unfortunately if the kids get caught in the middle then so be it they should not have committed the crime in the first place, I am not saying deport the kids but the people who have committed the crime

I don't now how the stats are in Australia but in the US for example crime rate among immigrants is a lot LOWER than US-born people. Here's a good NY Times article about it:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/us/trump-illegal-immigrants-crime.html

 

[CriticalThought]

You can't but if they commit a crime in Australia even if they are an Australian citizen they should be deported especially if they commit serious crimes like rape and murder, they should do their time in an Australian jail and then be put on the first flight out as soon as their sentence is over.

There is a serious problem with deportation. For the really vile criminal, it is like a free pass. They need to be held accountable and pay for their crimes.

If we deport them after serving sentence, then from the point of view if serving justice, we are creating double standards where some are penalized more than others. Also, in the OP, it is noted that crime is rife amongst second and third generation. These people don't have a nationality outside Australia.

I think we need to ask the question at which point the schooling system fails to integrate them properly. Are there any studies that correlate a lack of opportunity with crime? There must be a logical way if solving this.

 

[hussain0216]

You can't but if they commit a crime in Australia even if they are an Australian citizen they should be deported especially if they commit serious crimes like rape and murder, they should do their time in an Australian jail and then be put on the first flight out as soon as their sentence is over.

What if they are European stock?

Do they get shipped back to Europe

 

[Kopa Shamsu]

Figures released this year show that in 2016, one in seven Sudanese-born Victorians aged 10 to 24 was charged with a crime.
Rita Panahi Blog Posts

There is enough crime in Australia without successive governments importing large numbers of people incapable or unwilling to respect our laws.

Elements of the Lebanese and Sudanese population continue to be over-represented in crime statistics, dramatically so in some categories.

Sudanese-born youth are more than 120 times as likely to commit an aggravated burglary, according to Victorian Crime Statistics Agency figures.

We learnt last year that two-thirds of those arrested for terrorism-related offences in Australia were from second- and third-generation Lebanese Muslim backgrounds.

And yet the mere mention of this by Immigration Minister Peter Dutton, who noted the folly of Malcolm Fraser’s “Lebanon concession”, sent the usual race-baiting malcontents into a victim-playing frenzy with predictable cries of “racism” and “xenophobia”.

Lebanese Muslim Association president Samier Dandan accused the government of having a “toxic, assimilationist, nationalist” agenda and labelled Dutton’s comments “racist”, while Fairfax feminists called for his sacking.

Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young called Dutton “a racist bigot” and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten demanded he apologise for his “ignorant stupidity” and the “disgraceful comments he made about migrants in Australia”.

The Left’s customary reaction to inconvenient yet indisputable facts is to scream “Nazi, racist, bigot, Islamophobe” in the hope of silencing opposing views.

Such smears can be an effective tool in shutting down debate but they do not change the data or the incidence of violent crime.

Figures released this year show that in 2016, one in seven Sudanese-born Victorians aged 10 to 24 was charged with a crime.

Muslims are dramatically over-represented in the prison population: 9 per cent of prisoners, including 20 per cent of maximum-security prisoners, are from Muslim backgrounds.

A remarkable figure, given only about 3 per cent of the population identify as Muslim.

The statistics mirror what we’ve seen in NSW, and present serious concerns for the criminal justice system, particularly given the growing Muslim population in Australia.

Of course, most crime in this country is committed by Australian-born offenders, given that they are the vast majority of the population. But it is the extraordinary over-representation of some groups that needs attention.

Last week, we saw hundreds of “youths of African appearance” involved in a prolonged brawl around the St Kilda foreshore. Over several hours, they were involved in assaults, thefts and property damage, and yet police failed to make an arrest.

Inspector Jason Kelly said: “Their behaviour was just totally unacceptable, and I’d call on them to come forward … before we track them down.”

Surely such obvious criminality in a public place should see scores arrested, not just a call for the culprits to come in at their leisure.

Later that same day, County Court judge Elizabeth Gaynor allowed a young offender, who was spared jail despite arming himself with a sledgehammer during terrifying jewellery store robberies that netted over $200,000, to holiday in Sudan while on bail.

The decision was made despite concerns from prosecutors that Akon Mawien, 20, was a flight risk.

Is it any wonder that people are losing faith in the justice system?

As someone who has long advocated for both Australia’s high skilled immigration intake, as well as our generous humanitarian program, I understand the damage that is done when a minority of immigrants fail to assimilate.

It goes without saying that the vast majority of migrants are proud, productive members of Australian society and many migrant communities are under-represented in crime and imprisonment rates.

New Australians are often more patriotic and protective of this country than those fortunate enough to have been born here.

For many of us, this is truly the lucky country: welcoming, tolerant, peaceful and prosperous.

But for any individual or group to successfully integrate into Australian life, there needs to be an adherence to certain non-negotiables, including respecting the law.

Assimilation is not a dirty word. It is not only desirable, but imperative for a cohesive society.

If you can’t embrace core Western values of freedom, democracy and equality, then you have no business migrating to Australia.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/r...e/news-story/dd0635ce4092d496497f54e3faabc8c1

Totally agree,if they don't agree throw them out,no need to cry for sake of humanity.i am bored of western's "humanity" drama,throw them out,lock down border and dont come out of it.simple.
but before that make sure no others of yours are left in our countries in uniform,otherwise they will not have chance to make it.
similarly the minority people in our countries have to embrace our cultural and of source religious value,after all its democracy,whatever most people say is the law.
we are tired of giving freedoms and rights to minority,they must integrate with us or perish.
this applies for every countries.
hope human rights organization will have n problem with that.