IMF: Overall Saudi Arabian GDP Projected to Grow 7.6% in 2022

[_NOBODY_]

I heard they are also primary investors with LUCID motors and will be setting up a line in KSA

What do you mean by they will be setting up a line? Isn't LUCID motors an EV company?

 

[SQ8]

What do you mean by they will be setting up a line? Isn't LUCID motors an EV company?

Manufacturing facility
And yes LUCID is an EV company so it’s really interesting.

A few years ago I was speaking to an ARAMCO official in Houston on their new IKTIVA(or something close) initiative to buy and build and Saudi and I suggested that ARAMCO is uniquely placed due to its integrated infrastructure to become a leading supplier of renewable and clean energy.

KSA still has the potential to turn its petrochemical(which isn’t just about fuel but plastics and other products) base into one supplying everything from clean energy equipment and expertise to pioneering larger scale desalination projects.

 

[Corruptistan]

I heard they are also primary investors with LUCID motors and will be setting up a line in KSA

Although this has nothing to do with the topic, I would like to see Saudi Arabia give away citizenship to expats who have either been born in KSA or who have lived there a long time. On similar conditions as how citizenship is given in European countries and the US. For starters Saudi Arabians are some of the most diverse people out there contrary to popular belief, you actually have Saudi Arabians with origins from practically all corners and ethnic groups of the Muslim world. Of course they are not the majority but nevertheless it is not uncommon to find a Saudi Arabian of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtun, Baloch, Hyderabadi, Bihari etc. origins just from South Asia alone.

Either that or KSA has to unite with the remaining GCC states and Yemen (possible Iraq and Jordan as well) in order to have the required population in the future.

There was talk about some green card option a few years back but not sure what happened with this. Of course there are people who have been naturalized in the modern era but it is very rare.

It would strengthen the ties to the country as well if we had a sizable community of Saudi Arabians of Pakistani origin that actually still had close ties with the motherland. Of course this is not for outsiders to decide but locals but I know that many expats born and breed fell as Saudi Arabians and would love to stay but often that is not possible.

 

[SQ8]

Although this has nothing to do with the topic, I would like to see Saudi Arabia give away citizenship to expats who have either been born in KSA or who have lived there a long time. On similar conditions as how citizenship is given in European countries and the US. For starters Saudi Arabians are some of the most diverse people out there contrary to popular belief, you actually have Saudi Arabians with origins from practically all corners and ethnic groups of the Muslim world. Of course they are not the majority but nevertheless it is not uncommon to find a Saudi Arabian of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtun, Baloch, Hyderabadi, Bihari etc. origins just from South Asia alone.

Either that or KSA has to unite with the remaining GCC states and Yemen (possible Iraq and Jordan as well) in order to have the required population in the future.

There was talk about some green card option a few years back but not sure what happened with this. Of course there are people who have been naturalized in the modern era but it is very rare.

It would strengthen the ties to the country as well if we had a sizable community of Saudi Arabians of Pakistani origin that actually still had close ties with the motherland. Of course this is not for outsiders to decide but locals but I know that many expats born and breed fell as Saudi Arabians and would love to stay but often that is not possible.

It may not happen overnight but they may make the iqama easier for certain expats. Pakistanis unfortunately due to their reputation will likely never be included in this.

Blame yourself rather than anyone else for it

 

[Corruptistan]

Manufacturing facility
And yes LUCID is an EV company so it’s really interesting.

A few years ago I was speaking to an ARAMCO official in Houston on their new IKTIVA(or something close) initiative to buy and build and Saudi and I suggested that ARAMCO is uniquely placed due to its integrated infrastructure to become a leading supplier of renewable and clean energy.

KSA still has the potential to turn its petrochemical(which isn’t just about fuel but plastics and other products) base into one supplying everything from clean energy equipment and expertise to pioneering larger scale desalination projects.

I think that they are moving towards green hydrogen, something that Pakistan is looking at as well actually.

Renewables such as solar, wind, thermal etc. is a given. Anyway despite all this a huge amount of their domestic energy is fueled by oil and gas which otherwise could have been exported. So not ideal but better late than never.

But we will have to see what eventually transpres.

Manufacturing facility
And yes LUCID is an EV company so it’s really interesting.

A few years ago I was speaking to an ARAMCO official in Houston on their new IKTIVA(or something close) initiative to buy and build and Saudi and I suggested that ARAMCO is uniquely placed due to its integrated infrastructure to become a leading supplier of renewable and clean energy.

KSA still has the potential to turn its petrochemical(which isn’t just about fuel but plastics and other products) base into one supplying everything from clean energy equipment and expertise to pioneering larger scale desalination projects.

It will be difficult to compete with Tesla and the Chinese but I just googled those Lucid MOTORS and they look rather nice in terms of design, I got to admit that.

It may not happen overnight but they may make the iqama easier for certain expats. Pakistanis unfortunately due to their reputation will likely never be included in this.

Blame yourself rather than anyone else for it

Well, we will have to see, there are tons of very respected Pakistanis in KSA and a minority is not going to spoil the overall impression. The thing here is that Indians have created a mafia in the GCC and tend to employ their own. Of course they are doing whatever suits them but it gives a screwed picture. Although this has been improving. Anyway with the Saudization that is going on and increasing local population and automatization and new technology, a lot of fields will no longer be relevant that are otherwise relevant now. I also read that many fields in terms of manual labour have undergone Saudization so it seems that the locals also understand that not everyone of them can be a doctor, engineer, lawyer or employed by the system doing very little in some state office building.

Anyway we will have to see, although things look really bleak in Pakistan, there is still this hope within me that tells me that things are bound to improve. Whether that occurs before a "destructive big bang" or God forbid another 1971, is hard to tell.

 

[_NOBODY_]

Although this has nothing to do with the topic, I would like to see Saudi Arabia give away citizenship to expats who have either been born in KSA or who have lived there a long time. On similar conditions as how citizenship is given in European countries and the US. For starters Saudi Arabians are some of the most diverse people out there contrary to popular belief, you actually have Saudi Arabians with origins from practically all corners and ethnic groups of the Muslim world. Of course they are not the majority but nevertheless it is not uncommon to find a Saudi Arabian of Punjabi, Sindhi, Pashtun, Baloch, Hyderabadi, Bihari etc. origins just from South Asia alone.

Either that or KSA has to unite with the remaining GCC states and Yemen (possible Iraq and Jordan as well) in order to have the required population in the future.

There was talk about some green card option a few years back but not sure what happened with this. Of course there are people who have been naturalized in the modern era but it is very rare.

It would strengthen the ties to the country as well if we had a sizable community of Saudi Arabians of Pakistani origin that actually still had close ties with the motherland. Of course this is not for outsiders to decide but locals but I know that many expats born and breed fell as Saudi Arabians and would love to stay but often that is not possible.

These people illegally bought citizenship back in the 70s.

 

[Corruptistan]

These people illegally bought citizenship back in the 70s.

Not entirely. Have Hajj in mind here. It has been ongoing for 1400 years. Don't forget ancient trade ties between Arabia and South Asia. Those ties date back to the IVC. I kid you not, there are scholarly works about this, just make a simple Google search.

More recently (pre-1947 and pre-1932) trade between the two regions was also common.

KSA is basically a melting pot in terms of ancestry, in particular and mostly Hijaz. It is diluted now (although you can still find communities of every ethnic group although less nowadays than before) because this lot tended to mix with each other as well as the local city dwellers but it is quite evident. Similarly with the Eastern province or what we call the Khaleej (Gulf). Just take Oman as an example and the large Baloch population.

Ironically both sides of the pond (The Arabian and Iranian) have had mutual migrations and settlements since time immortal yet the governments have been at odds. Another idiotic dispute in the Muslim world.

BTW, all those that lived in what is today Saudi Arabia prior to 1932 were absorbed post-1932 regardless of origin and given citizenship.

 

[_NOBODY_]

It may not happen overnight but they may make the iqama easier for certain expats. Pakistanis unfortunately due to their reputation will likely never be included in this.

Blame yourself rather than anyone else for it

My father worked there for 40 years and I have lived there for 15 years, and both of us will strongly disagree with you here. Pakistanis literally run the entire healthcare in Saudi Arabia. Educated Pakistanis are highly respected in Saudi Arabia.

 

[_NOBODY_]

Not entirely. Have Hajj in mind here. It has been ongoing for 1400 years. Don't forget ancient trade ties between Arabia and South Asia. Those ties date back to the IVC. I kid you not, there are scholarly works about this, just make a simple Google search.

More recently (pre-1947 and pre-1932) trade between the two regions was also common.

KSA is basically a melting pot in terms of ancestry, in particular and mostly Hijaz. It is deluded now because this lot tended to mix with each other as well as the city dwellers but it is quite evident. Similarly with the Eastern province or what we call the Khaleej (Gulf).

Ironically both sides of the pond (The Arabian and Iranian) have had mutual migrations and settlements since time immortal yet the governments have been at odds. Another idiotic dispute in the Muslim world.

That makes sense but besides that there a lot of people from Iran, Pakistan and other parts of the Muslim world bought Saudi citizenships in the 70s. In fact, I know a few huge business tycoons of Saudi Arabia who illegally obtained the Saudi citizenship in the 70s or earlier.

 

[SQ8]

My father worked there for 40 years and I have lived there for 15 years, and both of us will strongly disagree with you here. Pakistanis literally run the entire healthcare in Saudi Arabia. Educated Pakistanis are highly respected in Saudi Arabia.

How much of the diaspora do they make?
To me the general educated Saudi seemed to be more aware of Indian culture than of Pakistan. I was surprised seeing Saudi kids being more aware of Bollywood or Indian curries but having no idea of Pakistanis besides the taxi drivers.

 

[_NOBODY_]

How much of the diaspora do they make?
To me the general educated Saudi seemed to be more aware of Indian culture than of Pakistan. I was surprised seeing Saudi kids being more aware of Bollywood or Indian curries but having no idea of Pakistanis besides the taxi drivers.

I used to go to hospital almost every single week throughout the 15 years that I have spent there and I have lived in multiple cities over there. Vast majority of the doctors that I saw in hospitals were either Pakistanis or Indians. For the record I never saw a Bangladeshi doctor over there, I only saw Bangladeshi nurses. Their ministry of health was being managed by so many Pakistanis when I was there. My father's uncle was a chief surgeon and he was literally running the ministry of health in Al Qassim while also doing his job as a chief surgeon in one of the best hospital in the province.

 

[Indos]

Gulf nations have to give more to Somalia that is currently facing famine as Saudi/UAE/Qatar/Kuwait get huge income from raising oil and gas price while their people are already quite wealthy.

 

[Hydration]

Gulf nations have to give more to Somalia that is currently facing famine as Saudi/UAE/Qatar/Kuwait get huge income from raising oil and gas price while their people are already quite wealthy.

what will somalia do in return?

and why doesnt indonesia or pakistan pay somalia's bill

 

[Bengal71]

they will. As long as their intrests are with you, you wont be harmed. They have no religous morals or cultural lines neither does the west

Nobody has religious morals including the Muslim countries when it comes to national interest. It's the same for every country at every time and age, it's just the hypocrisy we maintain.

 

[Corruptistan]

Gulf nations have to give more to Somalia that is currently facing famine as Saudi/UAE/Qatar/Kuwait get huge income from raising oil and gas price while their people are already quite wealthy.

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