IMF: India's Strong Economy Continues to Lead Global Growth

[Chakar The Great]

if you read the actual list you would know india is ahead of bangladesh and one ahead of bhutan. Sri Lanka and Maldives are small wealthy countries so they rank at the top of South Asia. Pakistan ranks at the bottom of sa unless you count afghanistan.

The paragraph I quoted is also from actual list of 2017. I am not sure if there is one for this year. I am neither denying not defending that Pakistan is down the list, this is embarrassing. However if I may bring into your notice that PTI's government introduced an excellent system of health insurance system for the poor people in KPK during last 5 years , hopefully that will be replicated in the rest of country. These things will take few years if not a decade , I hope the government prioritizes human development. Only time will tell.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

The paragraph I quoted is also from actual list of 2017. I am not sure if there is one for this year. I am neither denying not defending that Pakistan is down the list, this is embarrassing. However if I may bring into your notice that PTI's government introduced an excellent system of health insurance system for the poor people in KPK during last 5 years , hopefully that will be replicated in the rest of country. These things will take few years if not a decade , I hope the government prioritizes human development. Only time will tell.

It's good that pti is taking the iniyiative to do what previous govs could not. PTi may be what pakistan needs to develop. I meant the list i posted directly frok the unhdi the most recent i could find

 

[AyanRay]

Historically Pakistan has always done better than India. In terms of social indicators India is not even in the same galaxy as Pakistan. We are inherently merciful towards the weak, you are exactly the opposite. We strive towards equality, buy the very basis of your society is the caste system.

Ask any Bangladeshi and you will know how merciful you were. Mosques get blown up in Pakistan only because people of different sects worship there. Pathetic.


And regarding social indicators, which one are you exactly referring to? Pakistan has the second largest out of school kids in the world, only after Nigeria. Infant mortality rate, Child mortality rate, literacy rate, life expectancy is the worst in South Asia, let alone being better than India. Dude do some research before posting rubbish and stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Roybot]

So once again, India has to restart with its $529 billion external debt.

What I mean by that is that the IMF has set a criteria for any under developed nation to continuously grow at least 7% each year for 10 years in order to overcome poverty. It would seem, India's growth rate for the 2017/2018 once again fell to 6.2%. Therefore, another 10 years of 7% growth are needed once again to achieve that target... 2028.

RIP logic.

It just means that it would take a bit longer than 10 years, and not 10 years all over again

 

[delta2]

Did you even read the link I posted? The hdi rankings are composed of social indicators and it shows you are barely in the same league as us.

The very existence of a caste based society is cancerous concern for humanity. No amount of statistical acrobats can hide the hideous face of the evils that are prevalent in the Indian society.

We are, and always will be, much much better than you lot!

 

[Cobra Arbok]

The very existence of a caste based society is cancerous concern for humanity. No amount of statistical acrobats can hide the hideous face of the evils that are prevalent in the Indian society.

We are, and always will be, much much better than you lot!

Its a good thing the Caste system is abolished by the Indian constitution.
By the way, you don't get to decide your better than us. That is up to developmental economists, and they have decided we are better than you when they made the HDI list. I know the truth hurts, but blaming India is not going to help you.

 

[delta2]

Ask any Bangladeshi and you will know how merciful you were. Mosques get blown up in Pakistan only because people of different sects worship there. Pathetic.


And regarding social indicators, which one are you exactly referring to? Pakistan has the second largest out of school kids in the world, only after Nigeria. Infant mortality rate, Child mortality rate, literacy rate, life expectancy is the worst in South Asia, let alone being better than India. Dude do some research before posting rubbish and stop embarrassing yourself.

Bangladeshis at one time were claiming that 30 thousand Pakistani troops low on supplies raped millions of their women while their men stood by and watched. Then they dropped the number to more than a million. Then they dropped it a bit lower.

The Brahmin backed, Soviet funded and trained MuktiBahni committed all those crimes. The Pakistani troops were ordered to stand down and they did.

As I said, our history is full of showing mercy towards the weak and the conquered. The very fact that Brahminism exists today and Hindus are roaming around freely proves that fact. Muslims ruled the subcontinent for 1000 years. They could have easily slaughtered every single non-Muslim but they didn't. They instead built monuments and gardens with water fountains.

Its a good thing the Caste system is abolished by the Indian constitution.
By the way, you don't get to decide your better than us. That is up to developmental economists, and they have decided we are better than you when they made the HDI list. I know the truth hurts, but blaming India is not going to help you.

A constitution is a piece of paper written by men. It doesn't change the reality.

The American constitution guarantees life, liberty and happiness. But the blacks weren't legally allowed to purchase any property in and around the D.C. are up until the 60s.

You can hide behind the statistics of averages, which any student of statistics knows proves absolutely nothing. The very fact that you have to rely on foreigners to give you some sort of approval of being civilized proves my point.

Our history shows we are better than you. Even our present, marred by corruption, war and lawlessness, shows that we are better than you even in these conditions. We don't rape our women like hungry dogs. You lot do it.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Bangladeshis at one time were claiming that 30 thousand Pakistani troops low on supplies raped millions of their women while their men stood by and watched. Then they dropped the number to more than a million. Then they dropped it a bit lower.

The Brahmin backed, Soviet funded and trained MuktiBahni committed all those crimes. The Pakistani troops were ordered to stand down and they did.

As I said, our history is full of showing mercy towards the weak and the conquered. The very fact that Brahminism exists today and Hindus are roaming around freely proves that fact. Muslims ruled the subcontinent for 1000 years. They could have easily slaughtered every single non-Muslim but they didn't. They instead built monuments and gardens with water fountains.

You are forgetting Muslims did not rule India for 1000 years. That is a major myth you deluded lot believe.

And we all know that if you could wipe out Hinduism, you would. Which means the only reason Hinduism exists is because we successfully resisted and defeated you. That's the reason people like you have an intense hatred for India, because it will always stand in the way of global Islamic domination. Indian Hindus have defeated you before, and will defeat you again. Now please get back on topic, of go away.

Bangladeshis at one time were claiming that 30 thousand Pakistani troops low on supplies raped millions of their women while their men stood by and watched. Then they dropped the number to more than a million. Then they dropped it a bit lower.

The Brahmin backed, Soviet funded and trained MuktiBahni committed all those crimes. The Pakistani troops were ordered to stand down and they did.

As I said, our history is full of showing mercy towards the weak and the conquered. The very fact that Brahminism exists today and Hindus are roaming around freely proves that fact. Muslims ruled the subcontinent for 1000 years. They could have easily slaughtered every single non-Muslim but they didn't. They instead built monuments and gardens with water fountains.



A constitution is a piece of paper written by men. It doesn't change the reality.

The American constitution guarantees life, liberty and happiness. But the blacks weren't legally allowed to purchase any property in and around the D.C. are up until the 60s.

You can hide behind the statistics of averages, which any student of statistics knows proves absolutely nothing. The very fact that you have to rely on foreigners to give you some sort of approval of being civilized proves my point.

Our history shows we are better than you. Even our present, marred by corruption, war and lawlessness, shows that we are better than you even in these conditions. We don't rape our women like hungry dogs. You lot do it.

Do you even know how that list was calculated? It is clear you refuse to aknowledge basic facts. I pity you pathetic lot.

 

[delta2]

Ask any Bangladeshi and you will know how merciful you were. Mosques get blown up in Pakistan only because people of different sects worship there. Pathetic.


And regarding social indicators, which one are you exactly referring to? Pakistan has the second largest out of school kids in the world, only after Nigeria. Infant mortality rate, Child mortality rate, literacy rate, life expectancy is the worst in South Asia, let alone being better than India. Dude do some research before posting rubbish and stop embarrassing yourself.

I have traveled throughout Pakistan and have seen things on the first hand basis. The amount of misery that exists in India is not even imagined by a Pakistan living way below poverty line. Heck even those living in slums in Pakistan have access to toilets.

Any kid who is attending a madrassa is considered to be out of school. Pakistanis are among the top when it comes to giving out charity to our fellow citizens.

The very fact that some "experts" would group a society based on the inhuman idea of caste system with the rest of the world is mind boggling.

It is you who is deluded living in the Bollywood world. The misery that you experience on a daily basis doesn't even occur to the worst off people in Pakistan.

You are forgetting Muslims did not rule India for 1000 years. That is a major myth you deluded lot believe.

And we all know that if you could wipe out Hinduism, you would. Which means the only reason Hinduism exists is because we successfully resisted and defeated you. That's the reason people like you have an intense hatred for India, because it will always stand in the way of global Islamic domination. Indian Hindus have defeated you before, and will defeat you again. Now please get back on topic, of go away.


Do you even know how that list was calculated? It is clear you refuse to aknowledge basic facts. I pity you pathetic lot.

Typical Indian attempt to a revisionist history. The next you will claim you had internet 20 thousand years ago.

India was ruled by Muslims for 1000 years. That is a historical fact. No amount of denial can change that.

You were educated in India so I can understand you weren't taught history without Brahmin bias.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

I have traveled throughout Pakistan and have seen things on the first hand basis. The amount of misery that exists in India is not even imagined by a Pakistan living way below poverty line. Heck even those living in slums in Pakistan have access to toilets.

Any kid who is attending a madrassa is considered to be out of school. Pakistanis are among the top when it comes to giving out charity to our fellow citizens.

The very fact that some "experts" would group a society based on the inhuman idea of caste system with the rest of the world is mind boggling.

It is you who is deluded living in the Bollywood world. The misery that you experience on a daily basis doesn't even occur to the worst off people in Pakistan.



Typical Indian attempt to a revisionist history. The next you will claim you had internet 20 thousand years ago.

India was ruled by Muslims for 1000 years. That is a historical fact. No amount of denial can change that.

You were educated in India so I can understand you weren't taught history without Brahmin bias.

First of all I was born and raised in the US. Second, did you even look at the images I posted? I know you likely cant read, but I though you can interpret picture. Here are the links to prove you wrong anyways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurya_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire

You mentioned toilest: https://www.dawn.com/news/1168630
https://www.dawn.com/news/1297101
https://tribune.com.pk/story/424180/toilet-facilities--a-luxury-for-most-pakistanis
https://dailytimes.com.pk/145728/79m-pakistanis-still-lack-decent-toilet-report/

And at least Indian children are not dying in record numbers
http://www.gulf-times.com/story/582472/Pakistan-has-highest-newborn-mortality-rate

If Pakistan has less misery than India as you said, why does almost every international traveler who visited both countries say India is better than Pakistan? Why do the UN, World Bank, and IMF all say PAksitan is poorer than India and does worse on every social indicator?

I genuinely feel sorry for people like you have nothing to feel proud about, so you hate others.

 

[delta2]

First of all I was born and raised in the US. Second, did you even look at the images I posted? I know you likely cant read, but I though you can interpret picture. Here are the links to prove you wrong anyways

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurya_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_dynasty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijayanagara_Empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_Empire

You mentioned toilest: https://www.dawn.com/news/1168630
https://www.dawn.com/news/1297101
https://tribune.com.pk/story/424180/toilet-facilities--a-luxury-for-most-pakistanis
https://dailytimes.com.pk/145728/79m-pakistanis-still-lack-decent-toilet-report/

And at least Indian children are not dying in record numbers
http://www.gulf-times.com/story/582472/Pakistan-has-highest-newborn-mortality-rate

If Pakistan has less misery than India as you said, why does almost every international traveler who visited both countries say India is better than Pakistan? Why do the UN, World Bank, and IMF all say PAksitan is poorer than India and does worse on every social indicator?

I genuinely feel sorry for people like you have nothing to feel proud about, so you hate others.

I have known Indians who were born and grew up in Toronto. The delusions are passed down to them by their parents. I deal with Indians on a daily basis in an academic and professional environment. I know exactly what your kind is made of.

Wikipedia and agenda driven outlets are source of your opinions now?

Wait, so all these tourists you talk about traveled ALL over India, missed oceans of misery and slums bigger than many cities, survived the polluted air and dodged every single airborne germ and then still wanted to go to, in your words a country worse off than India?

LOL!

 

[Cobra Arbok]

I have known Indians who were born and grew up in Toronto. The delusions are passed down to them by their parents. I deal with Indians on a daily basis in an academic and professional environment. I know exactly what your kind is made of.

Wikipedia and agenda driven outlets are source of your opinions now?

Wait, so all these tourists you talk about traveled ALL over India, missed oceans of misery and slums bigger than many cities, survived the polluted air and dodged every single airborne germ and then still wanted to go to, in your words a country worse off than India?

LOL!

I mean exactly what I said. India receives over ten times as many tourists as Pakistan, which means India is a much better country.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/foreign-tourists-arrivals-in-india-crossed-10-million-in-2017.541743/

What I posted are facts. Disagreeing with them does not change the fact they are true. The links I posted are from Pakistani and international media. And what is your "academic and professional environment"

Please do me a favor and provide actual facts that support your ridiculous argument.

 

[delta2]

I mean exactly what I said. India receives over ten times as many tourists as Pakistan, which means India is a much better country.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/foreign-tourists-arrivals-in-india-crossed-10-million-in-2017.541743/

What I posted are facts. Disagreeing with them does not change the fact they are true. The links I posted are from Pakistani and international media. And what is your "academic and professional environment"

Please do me a favor and provide actual facts that support your ridiculous argument.

So if we take into account 15+ years of war and given the level of anti-Pakistan propaganda coupled with ridiculously pro-India propaganda in the Western media, and even then Indian was only able to get only measly 10 times as many tourists?
LOLS!

I mean exactly what I said. India receives over ten times as many tourists as Pakistan, which means India is a much better country.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/foreign-tourists-arrivals-in-india-crossed-10-million-in-2017.541743/

What I posted are facts. Disagreeing with them does not change the fact they are true. The links I posted are from Pakistani and international media. And what is your "academic and professional environment"

Please do me a favor and provide actual facts that support your ridiculous argument.

Dude, you conveniently deny the existence of the damned caste system!! And then you turn around and ask for facts?

You deny the facts of who ruled subcontinent and when. You don't live in this reality.

I have learned a great deal about Indians. When I was a kid I thought it was just stupid kids being stupid kids. It was after I got to deal with Indians both in professional and academic settings that I realized there is something inherently wrong with the Indian mind.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

So if we take into account 15+ years of war and given the level of anti-Pakistan propaganda coupled with ridiculously pro-India propaganda in the Western media, and even then Indian was only able to get only measly 10 times as many tourists?
LOLS!



Dude, you conveniently deny the existence of the damned caste system!! And then you turn around and ask for facts?

You deny the facts of who ruled subcontinent and when. You don't live in this reality.

I have learned a great deal about Indians. When I was a kid I thought it was just stupid kids being stupid kids. It was after I got to deal with Indians both in professional and academic settings that I realized there is something inherently wrong with the Indian mind.

Just as I expected you did not reply with any facts or links. The reason India does not have more tourists is because only recently has India invested in tourist infrastructure. And I have already provided proof that Muslims never ruled the entirety of the subcontinent for 1000 years as you claimed. The only part of India ruled by Muslims for a thousand years is modern day Pakistan. And why are you so obsessed with the caste system? Yes the modern-day version of the Caste system is bad, but not as bad as terrorist blasts every weekend, high infant and maternal mortality, sharia law, and very little religious freedom.

 

[delta2]

Just as I expected you did not reply with any facts or links. The reason India does not have more tourists is because only recently has India invested in tourist infrastructure. And I have already provided proof that Muslims never ruled the entirety of the subcontinent for 1000 years as you claimed. The only part of India ruled by Muslims for a thousand years is modern day Pakistan. And why are you so obsessed with the caste system? Yes the modern-day version of the Caste system is bad, but not as bad as terrorist blasts every weekend, high infant and maternal mortality, sharia law, and very little religious freedom.

As a human being I am gravely concerned about the conditions of other human beings. The caste system needs to be abolished once and for all. In order for that to be done, Brahmanism needs to be abolished once and for all. I am not obsessed with the caste system. I am obsessed with well being of my fellow human beings. You Indians are obsessed with the caste system because that is what you life if based on.

You can continue to deny the history. This isn't the first time I've heard an Indian deny history. I talk to Indians on a daily basis and have long discussions about this.

Sometimes I wish I had gone into psychiatry instead. I could have written books about human mental conditioning by now. The level of insight I've had into human thinking wouldn't have been possible without getting to know Indians.