I'm so sick and tired of hearing what India is doing why cant I hear what are we doing?

[Arsalan 345]

Hi,

It is now a matter of short time---that---most of you will admit that the Paf did indeed sabotage the integrity of pakistan and kashmir when wrongly assessed between 2003---2005 that there was no threat of war with india---thus refuting the need to buy the F16's on a fastrak---.

And to make sure---no aircraft were forcefully bought by the army---the Paf command donated the money to earthquake relief fund---based on the fact---

" you cannot make a flute without a hollow piece of wood "---.

No funds no aircraft---. So---they just simply destroyed any opportunity to procure the aircraft---. Next they refused to get the J10's that Musharraf had signed the deal with the chinese---.

We are in terrible condition.let us forget paf for a second.just think about our army on afghan border facing ttp and half army facing India on indo Pak border.how can we defeat almost 8 lakh soldiers of India with just 2 to 3 lakh Pak soldiers? This is practically impossible.even paf bombs can't kill 8 lakh soldiers.grabing indian Kashmir looks impossible.also paf have no special purpose plane like bomber.mirages are old and just look at air defense.we can't even stop indian ballistic missile attack.pathetic and terrible.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Every single Pakistani who lives in this fools paradise you will find out. Modi since day one saying his agenda which to destroy Pakistan to isolate Pakistan to hurt Pakistan in every which way
War is the only solution. So the Indians and world shall also realize that if you let go certain matters then consequences are huge. They didn't stitch in time now everyone is going to pay price.
Refuse the access to Kulbushan Yadav. What only India can make mockery of international law and Pakistan can't?
Call back ambassador
Close airspace until Kashmir is fully resolved
Stop the movement of Indian shipping and sabatoge them
Call of all trade
Make clear to the world that from now on the game will be really dirty in Kashmir and the only way from here is bad to worse.
Conduct airstrikes on everything that exist in Kashmir belonging to Indian army
Let's call Indian bluff and see if these suckers can survive nuclear war.


Afghanistan Palestine Yemen Iraq all these instances Pakistan looked the other way but in Kashmir we need to threaten the whole world as Israel does.

Yes, yes and yes.

Show them our resolve and our determination.

Words, protests and pleas for help will achieve nothing. They will in fact weaken us.

Shut them all out, stop thinking about ksa, China, Turkey etc etc like some heartbroken teenager. It is time to be masters of our own destiny.

Focus on the one true enemy that has revealed itself to us and basks at our doorstep.

Show it the sharp edged steel that we will hold up to its neck, champing at the bit, itching to draw it clean across its exposed throat.

Force the enemy to recalculate. Cause them discomfort.

The sequence of events that follows today should at the very least not be as per the enemy's preconceived predictions. Force them to guess and second guess, to be on the back foot.

Then they will panic and make the first mistake.

Already there is a sense that they were forced into making this move early by recent events. If there is any window of opportunity to surprise them, it is the next couple of days.

 

[Crusher]

Following Imran Khan's footsteps, people in pakistan should stop paying their taxes which finance this government and military in case they don't "perform" at this point in time in Kashmir. What is the purpose of having a "huge" army with billions of dollars of annual budget if they refuse to fight and try their best to run away from the war in Kashmir. If Pakistan has to live this cowardly way then it is better to reduce the size of Pakistani military to one tenth of its current size and become subservient to USA or China to provide us the military security and then we can focus only on education, health and other "economic activities" etc.

 

[Nasr]

If it's on then I think we need to threaten India.
1 As 370 ends India and Kashmir no longer in contract. So even those who went into contract are now calling India illegitimate occupation force.

2 We should start with Air strikes in Indian occupied Kashmir. If they want to open offensive then so be it. Whole Pakistan's morale is high and nation is ready and rallying behind PM Imran Khan.

3 So mr Prime Minister it's time to show the courage of tipu Sultan and live it that Shair ki eik din ki zindagi gedhar kay soo seal ki zindagi say bahtair.
Time to strike
Time to strike
Time to strike
Time to strike

So Pakistan should conduct Air-Strikes on India. Then what? Modi uses that to mobilize the entire nation behind him and the Indian Congress Party loses any traction it had gained against BJP and any chance of building momentum to vote out their PM.

Think with your head, not with emotions.

Modi is digging his own grave by revoking Kashmiri autonomy. He is desperate, one who lost face in summit in Russia, and now again with Prime Minister Imran Khan's visit to America. India's economy is failing and they're desperately trying to fudge the numbers to make it appear as though they still have the economic clout to make people listen. This is no longer the case and the Indian people are gradually beginning to recognize this reality.

Modi has already suffered successive defeats in the international arena, and the 27th February Air-Strikes by Pakistan seem to have driven him and his party, over the edge. Pakistan made it's position very clear before the world. Where we struck India when it ventured into our Air Space. We released their pilot as a good will gesture. We made overtures toward them for peace. Like General Bajwa said to Sidhu (indian cricketer parliamentarian) "We want peace." We have done our bit, and made our point loud and clear to Modi. Now, as before, Modi's decisions are proving disastrous for India.

Pakistan will not strike India in retaliation. Been there, done that. Let Modi commit political suicide. They venture again into Pakistan, more of their planes will get shot down. Strikes however, will NOT happen at any cost, other than an open declaration of war. With Pakistan NOT taking the proverbial "bait." Will usher Modi's government to eat it's own flesh straight to it's grave.

Use that brain God has given you and play chess more often. You may realize then, that Pakistan today stands in a very strong and powerful position than it ever has in it's history.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Following Imran Khan's footsteps, people in pakistan should stop paying their taxes which finances this government and military in case they don't "perform" at this point in time in Kashmir. What is the purpose of having a "huge" army with billions of dollars of annual budget if they refuse to fight for their national interest. If Pakistan has to live this cowardly way then it is better to reduce the size of Pakistani military to one tenth of its current size and become subservient to USA or China to provide us the military security and then we can focus only on education, health and other "economic activities" etc.

Learn everything from your enemy.look at their education,their institutes, their economy.we are corrupt people.we always pretend like master of Muslim world but in reality,we beg for peace and most of our strategies are wrong.no need to be sad.work hard.ask others to work hard.we need creativity.we must contribute.there are many in Pakistan who can make lots of new missiles, implement new technologies.army can even fight a war.problem is money.without good economy,we can't fight a war for longer period of time but India will.it is better to stop dreaming.it is not easy to kill kashmiri people.don't be sad.stay strong and contribute.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

So Pakistan should conduct Air-Strikes on India. Then what? Modi uses that to mobilize the entire nation behind him and the Indian Congress Party loses any traction it had gained against BJP and any chance of building momentum to vote out their PM.

Think with your head, not with emotions.

Modi is digging his own grave by revoking Kashmiri autonomy. He is desperate, one who lost face in summit in Russia, and now again with Prime Minister Imran Khan's visit to America. India's economy is failing and they're desperately trying to fudge the numbers to make it appear as though they still have the economic clout to make people listen. This is no longer the case and the Indian people are gradually beginning to recognize this reality.

Modi has already suffered successive defeats in the international arena, and the 27th February Air-Strikes by Pakistan seem to have driven him and his party, over the edge. Pakistan made it's position very clear before the world. Where we struck India when it ventured into our Air Space. We released their pilot as a good will gesture. We made overtures toward them for peace. Like General Bajwa said to Sidhu (indian cricketer parliamentarian) "We want peace." We have done our bit, and made our point loud and clear to Modi. Now, as before, Modi's decisions are proving disastrous for India.

Pakistan will not strike India in retaliation. Been there, done that. Let Modi commit political suicide. They venture again into Pakistan, more of their planes will get shot down. Strikes however, will NOT happen at any cost, other than an open declaration of war. With Pakistan NOT taking the proverbial "bait." Will usher Modi's government to eat it's own flesh straight to it's grave.

Use that brain God has given you and play chess more often. You may realize then, that Pakistan today stands in a very strong and powerful position than it ever has in it's history.

The problem my brother is that we want peace that's not a question the same Sidhu got treated like enemy when he went back. The question Pakistan need to think about is wether India wants peace?
Even leftist like Barkha Dutt went right wing on feb 26 and 27th until they got smacked and all were begging for peace. Whole India was on back foot on the morning of Feb 28th.
So what if whole Nation of India rally behind Modi then our attitude should be that the whole nation will get it.

 

[Mrc]

kill kulbushan for a start!

I second that and close the airspace


Stop this fcking policy of appeasement and dreams of winning Nobel prizes and living as American bitch happily after

 

[tkmd]

I guarantee the forces would like nothing more than to kick the black *** of these mallu bastards once and for all. But sadly, our nation is not able or prepared for a war of choice. I really hope IK can do something to change our ever declining course. If our economy is strong, we can fight. If our economy is weak then its a suicide mission. Plain and simple.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

We are in terrible condition.let us forget paf for a second.just think about our army on afghan border facing ttp and half army facing India on indo Pak border.how can we defeat almost 8 lakh soldiers of India with just 2 to 3 lakh Pak soldiers? This is practically impossible.even paf bombs can't kill 8 lakh soldiers.grabing indian Kashmir looks impossible.also paf have no special purpose plane like bomber.mirages are old and just look at air defense.we can't even stop indian ballistic missile attack.pathetic and terrible.

I guess India doesn't have any boundry with China. Afghanistan should become secondary priority should be East. Enemy in the west is not exsistenital threat the one in East is. 200,000 on west and call upon reserves as well as arm civilian on the frontier and face the enemy.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Has it begun yet?

 

[JonAsad]

Our economy has just started going on track, our reputation has just started to become positive. Unfortunately we cannot do anything at the moment. Besides we are in no situation economically for an adventure. Stay put...

 

[litman]

The world we be against us if we take that route. Granted the world is already against us.

the world will never be on our side. so stop pleasing the world.

 

[SQ8]

Does anyone here understand the economic, social and military disadvantages we are in right now or not?

 

[Canuck786]

When the resources are scarce, they should be used wisely and perhaps not for false political gains. Regardless, it is time for utmost solidarity not just with our Kashmiri brethren but within ourselves too.

 

[Mace]

Hi,

The corruption and incompetence in Paf happened to Kashmir---.

Not buying equipment in a timely manner happened to Kashmir---.

Traitors claiming that there would be no war happened to kashmir---.

Not taking the Yemen offer in a timely manner happened to Kashmir---.

Not understanding the level of threat happened to kashmir---.

Under-estimating your enemy happened to kashmir---.

Kashmir happened due to the coward and incompetence of pak military on the 27th---.

If pak had taken out the 1/2 billion dollar sub and taken out 8-10 enemy aircraft---pakistan military's resovle would be obvious---.

But showing cowardice and fear of world reaction and letting enemy escape happened to kashmir---.

British were baffled around partition that Pak thought they could get both Hyderabad and Kashmir forcibly from India, a country larger and more resources at hand. If cool heads had prevailed Pak could have got Kashmir foregoing Hyderabad then.

I don’t think you still get it. It was wise of Pak deciding not to escalate 27th further.