If You Don't Like Conversions, Bring a Law Against It: RSS Chief Mohan Bhagwat

[Iggy]

That wont bite you back at all dear
... People are here against a conversion opportunity which has exploited someone's misery poverty n backwardness... Best situation would've been if Christian themselves had opposed such conversion voice furiously.....
By the fear of misuse we should not have brought any anti dowry, anti rape n SC/ST acts n laws at first place ?

I have posted a new article there and I have mentioned that the church I am going and many churches here in India do charity drive, free medical check ups for people etc for people irrespective of religion, which can be used by any right winger are religious drive.. We cant just rely on your words mate.. In the end, we are the people who are going to suffer..

 

[ashok mourya]

In between 1991-2001, there was 44.7% growth in Christian Population in North-Eastern Region.Assam is the most populated state of the northeast, in between 1991-2001, there was 29.3% growth in Muslim Population and 32.5% in Christian Population. Alarming fact, Buddhist population declined by -20.3%.There was decadal growth of Hindus in several districts of Assam, especially in Bongaigaon, Dhubri, Kokrajhar, Barpeta, Nalbari and Darrang.There was whopping 130.9% growth in Christian Population and 73.4% growth in Muslim Population of Arunchal Pradesh.There was 69.2% growth in Christian Population as well as 69.6% in Muslim Population of Nagaland.There was -5.2% decadal growth in Hindu population of Manipur however on the same time Christians by grew by 36.6% and Muslims by 43.1%.Mizoram recorded 122.5% growth in Muslims populations and Christians recorded 30.7 % however, on the same time Hindus recorded decadal growth of -9.3%.Tripura recorded 120.5% growth in Christians Population and 29.5 percent growth in Muslim population however, Buddhist recorded decadal growth of -22.9%.Meghalaya recorded 42.1% growth in Christian’s population and Muslims grew by 61.4%.Northeastern states excluding Assam recorded 50.6% growth in Christians and 42.4% growth in Muslims.

 

[danger007]

Now I cannot furnish any hard evidences for you but I shared my real life experiences which is enough for me to put forth my views with the conviction of need of ACL at central gov level..... But its also not good live in denial or pretending to unaware of reality...
Brother none is against Christian......

yesterday i received multiple threats gor voicing against these conversions. .. you ask any Indian or Pakistani member about me in this forum... i argued with loads of them on behalf of India and Hinduism. .. including webmaster and horus .... i never back down.. but whatever is happening now is total crap.. why don't these vhp or something lodge case of those missionaries who is bribing °°if there are any°° ... all of you don't have lil sense... you guys think it is right place to argue??? that guy muhaihind is false flagger.. you guys are pointing fingures on others... no one cares if they really re converting those who converted forcefully. .. but it won't stop there... as you see ... soon it will become disease. . harassing Christian minority will start...

 

[NKVD]

This kind of nonsense is what I hate here.. You are talking like we are coming from Europe or Middle East.. Dude, we were born and bought up here.. Its my nation too that is divided.. Just because our religion is different does not make us any less Indian here.. What you mentioned about your culture is mine too.. You have the right to keep your identity and for that you want to kill or jail every people from other religion? I asked you how much you think this law can be misused by right wingers? From your post here, I am sure that chances are very high.. Its not only the Hindus that feel pain when ever a bad thing happened here in India.. We too mourned for people who killed in 26/11, we too have cheered for world cup win of India.. People like Abdul Kalam, Tessy Thomas, Kurien etc also worked for the betterment of this country along with Hindus.. So next time you talk about the pain of Hindus about this nation, think twice..

Same things you people can't understand that hinduism is not a religious concept its cultural form.its cultural identity it's not about faiths but way of life which bind is together now &so our forfathers .whenever we say Hindu nation it's all about the cultural identity not the way of how we pray eventually you will see word Hindu is not even Born in our land but persian gave it to us on there understanding of our cultural values that time.we say Jay hind to praise our land is it communal we sing sare jahan se Acha Hindustan hamara at beating retreat on 26 Jan .that doesn't mean we praise only the Hindus of our land please understand we rightwingers are not fascists as how media portray us we are as much diverse as you and liberal it'd only matter of facts. there are rotten oranges on all sides

 

[NKVD]

If it is coming from a credible source then why not, unless there is something much more credible saying otherwise....

There is no credibility in indian media now they all make news for sensationalism now mate you and me both know this

 

[utraash]

I have posted a new article there and I have mentioned that the church I am going and many churches here in India do charity drive, free medical check ups for people etc for people irrespective of religion, which can be used by any right winger are religious drive.. We cant just rely on your words mate.. In the end, we are the people who are going to suffer..

Charity is entirely different thing mate .... Bring me proof where underprivileged boys/gals got their educational expenses without asking their parents to get converted(In my own experiences I met three converted Christian out of financial need to get an admission in Engineering college)... Some charitable trust are themselves involved alluring people.....
If these unregulated conversion not stopped we as nation will be at suffering end.....
But people also shouldn't make hue n cry over conversion of people getting into Hinduism.....
Anyway happy Christmas to you n your family in well advance....

 

[ashok mourya]

OK Watch this...

Agra conversion row: Police hunt for accused Nand Kishore Balmiki - IBNLive



What is the guarantee that this ACL will not be misused by a particular section...?



You need to check the post #131 where one of the PDF member mentions as to how it can be misused....

Hindus converted christian in Bihar - YouTube
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP5tY_IWc4s&hd=1&h=cAQFYVm5M


visit the last video
Eluru Miracle by Bro. Anil Kumar - YouTube

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Eluru Miracle by Bro. Anil Kumar - YouTube

 

[NKVD]

yesterday i received multiple threats gor voicing against these conversions. .. you ask any Indian or Pakistani member about me in this forum... i argued with loads of them on behalf of India and Hinduism. .. including webmaster and horus .... i never back down.. but whatever is happening now is total crap.. why don't these vhp or something lodge case of those missionaries who is bribing °°if there are any°° ... all of you don't have lil sense... you guys think it is right place to argue??? that guy muhaihind is false flagger.. you guys are pointing fingures on others... no one cares if they really re converting those who converted forcefully. .. but it won't stop there... as you see ... soon it will become disease. . harassing Christian minority will start...

Perhaps you seem have taken it to seriously I only say to you please accept our way of thinking also do analysis on it don't always react on what media said

 

[Yogijaat]

OK Watch this...

Agra conversion row: Police hunt for accused Nand Kishore Balmiki - IBNLive

Agra conversion not forced, but element of cheating involved: Minority Commission - The Times of India

 

[danger007]

Charity is entirely different thing mate .... Bring me proof where underprivileged boys/gals got their educational expenses without asking their parents to get converted(In my own experiences I met three converted Christian out of financial need to get an admission in Engineering college)... Some charitable trust are themselves involved alluring people.....
If these unregulated conversion not stopped we as nation will be at suffering end.....
But people also shouldn't make hue n cry over conversion of people getting into Hinduism.....
Anyway happy Christmas to you n your family in well advance....

there is some school in kurnool dist which is run from foreign aid.... they provided free education to all regardless of religion. . they gave everything to those kids like from hair oil to dress books cycles and all... none of those kids converted to Christianity. ... even after schooling they helped these poor kids to join in various colleges...

Perhaps you seem have taken it to seriously I only say to you please accept our way of thinking also do analysis on it don't always react on what media said

what kinda way of thinking? ?? you mean with knifes??? I am sharing my personal experience only..

 

[utraash]

yesterday i received multiple threats gor voicing against these conversions. .. you ask any Indian or Pakistani member about me in this forum... i argued with loads of them on behalf of India and Hinduism. .. including webmaster and horus .... i never back down.. but whatever is happening now is total crap.. why don't these vhp or something lodge case of those missionaries who is bribing °°if there are any°° ... all of you don't have lil sense... you guys think it is right place to argue??? that guy muhaihind is false flagger.. you guys are pointing fingures on others... no one cares if they really re converting those who converted forcefully. .. but it won't stop there... as you see ... soon it will become disease. . harassing Christian minority will start...

Brother when we have to debate with other nationals we tend to be in different mode than to ourselves(Indians).....
I have seen few contents of yours in pdf n I might have appreciated that ...... Keep going.....
Mark my words these recent conversion rows has brought enough awareness that those missionaries(involved in conversion by exploiting ppl poverty n etc) you would see ppl(converted by alluring) coming forward to book the cases ......
N as far as indianess is concerned I don't see any difference between you n me.... I rest my case with we never ditched our brother(Christian) neither in past nor in future whatsoever....

 

[NKVD]

there is some school in kurnool dist which is run from foreign aid.... they provided free education to all regardless of religion. . they gave everything to those kids like from hair oil to dress books cycles and all... none of those kids converted to Christianity. ... even after schooling they helped these poor kids to join in various colleges...

after govt & centre school Rss runs second most number of chain of its schools in India it includes all students of every religious group so that It's runs biggest chain of Ngo's in the country which takecare social services without discrimination so you think we are really fascist as what sickular portray we are.

 

[utraash]

there is some school in kurnool dist which is run from foreign aid.... they provided free education to all regardless of religion. . they gave everything to those kids like from hair oil to dress books cycles and all... none of those kids converted to Christianity. ... even after schooling they helped these poor kids to join in various colleges...


what kinda way of thinking? ?? you mean with knifes??? I am sharing my personal experience only..

I will have to appreciate if that is true n we are not here to paint very missions with same brush... ..... Can you share me exact details of that school as I know many telgus from that district?

 

[anonymus]

The convention, organised by the Indian Pentecostal Church of God and the United Christian Council (UCC) on December 12, at Ratlam was attended by ailing tribals from nearby areas who were promised free treatment.
Alleging that the organisers had promised the tribals jobs and money to convert them to Christianity, activists of Hindu Jagaran Manch informed the authorities and brought the convention to a halt.
Station Road Police Station in-charge Rajesh Chouhan told The Sunday Express that Jose Matthew of UCC and others had been booked after preliminary investigation and after recording statements of some tribals who attended the convention.

@seiko , That is textbook allurement. Those tribals were promised free treatment if they attend Pentecostal convention.

Now when i say textbook allurement, i means that promise of free treatment which is incumbent on attending a religious function would legally qualify as allurement.

Morally, it could be either social service or a soul harvesting exercise. But since defender in this case is Pentecostal, i have no doubt that it was a soul harvesting exercise. Pentecostals are worst of all Christian denominations in existence, closely followed by Baptists(because Baptist church organized terrorist groups in Tripura in order to covert Hindus) .

Pentecostal Church or New apostolic reformation as it is known in USA is referred to as Christian Taliban.They believe in establish a worldwide Christian theocracy ,and conduct spiritual warfare in which go to they destroy cultural artifact of other religions, in order to remove demons from from entire population .

New Apostolic Reformation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Rise of the New Apostolic Reformation :: Perspective Digest

New Apostolic Reformation - RationalWiki

To accomplish their goals and combat Satan and his demons the apostles must engage in strategic level spiritual warfare. This means that it is not just a matter of evangelizing souls one by one. Instead, the NAR will go into a geographic region or a people group and conduct spiritual-warfare activities, including destruction of artifacts associated with secularism or other religions, in order to remove the demons from the entire population.

Spiritual warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the Christian Science Monitor, "C. Peter Wagner, head of Global Harvest Ministries in Colorado Springs, Colo., is in the vanguard of the spiritual warfare movement."Others might disagree.In the version of spiritual warfare of Wagner and his associates and followers, "spiritual mapping" or "mapping" involves research and prayer, either to locate specific individuals who are then accused of witchcraft, or to locate individuals, groups, or locations that are thought to be victims of witchcraft or possessed by demons, against which spiritual warfare is then waged.Peter Wagner claims that this type of spiritual warfare was "virtually unknown to the majority of Christians before the 1990s".According to Wagner, the basic methodology is to use spiritual mapping to locate areas,demon-possessed persons, occult practitioners such as witches and Freemasons, or occult idol objects like statues of Catholic saints, which are then named and fought, using methods ranging from intensive prayer to burning with fire. "[T]hey must burn the idols… the kinds of material things that might be bringing honor to the spirits of darkness: pictures, statues, Catholic saints, Books of Mormon… [T]he witches and warlocks had surrounded the area… When the flames shot up, a woman right behind Doris [Wagner's wife] screamed and manifested a demon, which Doris immediately cast out!"

 

[danger007]

Brother when we have to debate with other nationals we tend to be in different mode than to ourselves(Indians).....
I have seen few contents of yours in pdf n I might have appreciated that ...... Keep going.....
Mark my words these recent conversion rows has brought enough awareness that those missionaries(involved in conversion by exploiting ppl poverty n etc) you would see ppl(converted by alluring) coming forward to book the cases ......
N as far as indianess is concerned I don't see any difference between you n me.... I rest my case with we never ditched our brother(Christian) neither in past nor in future whatsoever....

why don't you provide proof. .. i will lodge complaint on them by my self... why you won't agree about discrimination on minorities ... Instead you claim minorities are bad... isn't it funny ... Everyone Knows RSS is hardcore hinduwadi... they are making repeated statements against Christians and missionaries. ..