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If you are an unmarried Pakistani, you cannot visit Sweden

when i said introspection, i meant it but not as an individual but as a nation.
It is not really possible to do it as a nation esp when there are millions of us and more than 1 thought in each "individual's mind" ...and yes we are an individual....the only thing uniting us is the land we are on not our ideas and thoughts!

This boy can not even go to china under simolar circumstances. chinese wont even accept his visa application.
I believe that is similar...but no...I know 1 too many unmarried Pakistanis who have gone to China with a Pakistani passport...
 
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China is also on our other side, but why we get along with them and not you? Let the people of Kashmir decide their fate that is what I demand.
By other side i meant adversary... India is not ready to let few people decide fate of its territory ie kashmir, so here we hit the blocked again
 
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well simple , go to Finland , or Norway . maybe he is pissed because they didnt let a unmarried guy to Sweden , and after marriage you cant just go like a animal and **** blondies ..... anyway lets go to Thailand :D
i am more of a person that likes beaches .. any suggestions ? Karachi beach sucks , so as Dubai ..
 
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At personal level it sucks, I will be mad. But please understand authorities in all countries who process visa application are not really known for customer service.
Also, many countries reject visas for Indians too for similar reason. At least these guys clearly tell you the reason and allow appeal process, some govts dont even tell you that.

Worst people in Sweden are Somalians and Iraqis. Why are Pakistanis being targetted specifically?
OP clearly mentions, its because 300 plus asked for asylum last year. They want to make sure you got enough ties with pakistan so that you return to your country. Its very normal for many countries to ask you to prove(other than fund during your stay, and sometimes even insurance).

This is clear racism
OP does not have data to prove (apart from his own case). we dont know how many they approved. If I was a caseworker, I will be slightly apprehensive of solo travel of a very young boy.
 
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well simple , go to Finland , or Norway . maybe he is pissed because they didnt let a unmarried guy to Sweden , and after marriage you cant just go like a animal and **** blondies ..... anyway lets go to Thailand :D
i am more of a person that likes beaches .. any suggestions ? Karachi beach sucks , so as Dubai ..

Why pakistan do not have proper beaches, as India have plenty like famous beaches in Goa,Kerala,Tamil Nadu etc...
 
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i dont know ... may be there are but must be hard to get there :(

In India, not only that we have plenty of beaches and waterways but also high tides on such beaches which is funny and not like low tides seen in middle east.

 
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Hello Faisal6309

I am a norwegian-pakistani born & raised up in Norway, live about 80 km from the swedish border. I am there often for shopping.

I will try to explain as good as i can. Sweden have for many years been a tolerant country, and after Germany (180.000) granted asylum to most immigrants from august 2013 to august 2014 (90.000).

Sweden have in past 20-30 years given asylum to approximatly 1 million peoples from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Somalia, Eritrea, Chile etc etc Nowadays all syrians gets asylum in Sweden also eritrean people, also some afghani and somalies.

People of Sweden is fed up by this massive immigration and its daily riots and rasist attacks in Sweden as in other Europan countries nowadays.

Else we pakistanies have to admit that the war against terrorism and radacalization has ruined Pakistans reputation in the whole world. Pakistani are seen as untolerant people and potential radicals. Its on time that Pakistan get rid off all extremists.

Pakistan has to develope the country and establish top universities. Almost all all Indians are comming on business or study visa to the western countries. I know that pakistanies dont get business or study visa. Its maybe related to Pakistans bad reputation.

Western media is very intrested to publish news when any pakistani is involved, but for instance when any indian is involved the media is friendly.

I have met some indian peoples in Europe / Norway, they also admit that the life is easier for indians. They gets jobs easier, peoples are generally more friendly towards indians in western world.

Pakistanies have to admit that PPP, PML-N, army and radicalization has ruined Pakistan and not made it what it should become. Pakistani corrupt politicians have robbed and destroyed the country. I cant understand why pakistani people still admires the politicians from PPP & PML-N which have ruined the country. And tested , tested again , and tested again for 40-50 years.

I recomend pakistanies to bring new goverment PTI. Stop interfering in Afghanistan, and secure its borders on eastern and western side. Stop radical mullahs, try solve Kashmir conflict on table. But have working relationship with India on other areas.

Pakistan have to look towards Scandinavian countries to adopt new model to improve the life and image of pakistanies. When law & order is in control tourism, business and investment will flourish.














If you are an unmarried Pakistani, you cannot visit Sweden

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“Sweden will no longer issue visas to Pakistani citizens unless they are visiting a close relative or are married with children.”

Apparently, even ‘tourism’ related purposes are not permitted. Obviously, none of this makes a part of their official press release; they wouldn’t want bad press attention for this racist policy, now would they? This brings me to the purpose of my blog today.

I have had many Swedish friends for years and one of them visited me in Lahore, Pakistan, in December 2013. He still remembers my mother’s parathay and liked Pakistani food better than most of what he has eaten in his life. I took him to Hafeez Centre, which he was amazed to see and even told me that nothing like it existed in the 30 odd countries he had been to in his life.

Now, it was my turn to visit his family. I also wanted to visit Sweden to go to the Dreamhack Festival, a technology event with over 25,000 attendees from all over the world, which takes place only twice a year. It has been my dream to go to this festival since I was 12. So I finally saved up some money to go and my Swedish friend’s mother sent me an invitation letter after which I applied for a visa. I should mention here that my application was ‘’exactly’ as requested by the embassy. No documents were missing or incorrectly filled. I triple checked the application before I sent it. I obviously couldn’t think of any reason for which they would deny me a visa. I was so sure that I would get the visa that I even purchased my return ticket. This was to be my first trip out of Pakistan and I was excited like never before.

A few days later, I received a text message from the embassy, asking me to pick up my documents and I went there as fast as I could. But when I got there, I was extremely surprised to see that my application had been rejected. I came home, sad and depressed, and started reading through the rejection letter. They had provided two main reasons for rejecting my visa, both of which made no sense at all.

The first reason:

“Your invitation letter mentions that you will be paying for your stay in Sweden yourself, however you have attached no bank statements to support this.”

Nowhere did I mention that I will be paying for my stay myself. It said that the person inviting me will sponsor my stay and the past six months of bank statements had, in fact, been attached to my form.

The second reason:

“Your reason to return to Pakistan could not be ascertained.”

For this, as a visa requirement, they had asked to show a return ticket booking or money enough to be able to buy a return ticket. I attached an actual, fully paid for, return ticket. This is more than the requirements of the visa application. Secondly, I am 17-years-old. My family, home, friends and school are all here in Pakistan. I had no reason to stay longer than the visa permitted.

So I called the embassy right away and was greeted by an exceedingly rude lady on the other end. I mustered a calm and polite tone in my voice and asked her if I were to apply again, what additional documents were required. To this she responded in a rather curt tone,

“You should send the same application.”

I then inquired about how it would be different from my first application considering that one got rejected. To this, she answered,

“Maybe the person who checked your application didn’t like it; maybe it will go through next time.”

At this point I really wanted to give them a piece of mind and say,

“Was it a toffee that he didn’t like it very much so he said no? What kind of an answer is that? The person who read your application did not like it, really?”

But I didn’t.

Instead, I politely thanked her for her help and hung up.

I went ahead and appealed the decision. This appeal is checked by people in Sweden in the ‘Migration Court’, so I had hoped that they would see that I was being wrongly refused. I still had a tad bit of hope left about getting the visa.

A month and a half later, I received a letter from the migration court in Sweden. I opened it up and started reading it. It said that I should attach documents such as real estate documents, proof of employment, return ticket etcetera.

I am 17-years-old, I do not own real estate or have employment.

This is not mentioned anywhere as visa requirements for any country, let alone Sweden. You just don’t ask a 17-year-old for real estate documents or proof of employment. And yes, it was quite clear that I was being asked for my documents, not those belonging to my parents’ or family which would have made more sense. I had already attached a return ticket, so I was not sure why I was asked for it again.

This was quite confusing to me so, I started emailing the Migration Board of Sweden that provides information on visas. They told me that I should attach “evidence that I will return”. When I asked what evidence should be attached, their answer was,

“We cannot confirm what evidence.”

I then asked why I was told to send real estate documents because I am only 17-years-old. Their answer was,

“If you do not have real estate then you should not attach such documents.”

So I asked,

“Then what should I attach?”

And they replied,

“We cannot exactly confirm that.”

After two weeks of this, I was fed up. I was asking simple questions and getting no real answers. So instead of emailing them, I decided to post my story on a Swedish forum where people come to get help about visa related information. Many people tried to offer help, saying that I should attach a letter from my school and that I should give extra documents to prove that I will return. A couple days later, an actual case officer who happened to work for the migration board replied:

“In 2014, 370 Pakistani citizens applied for asylum in Sweden. Hence, entry visas are only granted to Pakistanis who wish to visit immediate family members in Sweden and who can show that they are established in Pakistani society. Being established means having a family (husband, wife, children) in Pakistan to return to and/or to be established in the labour market. It is unlikely that any Pakistani will be issued a visa to visit a more distant relative or friends or to visit Sweden as a tourist.”

Basically, in other words or as I took it, he meant:

“Because 370 Pakistanis out of 182 million did something wrong, we are now banning all Pakistanis who are not married with children or have a close relative in Sweden. No tourism for you Pakistanis either. Too bad you were born in the wrong place.”

This proved that all the reasons I was being given by the embassy were made up to hide the real truth – I am not being given a visa because I am an unmarried Pakistani. The Pakistani passport is already the third worst in the world and now countries are also banning Pakistanis from getting visit visas. I can’t say Sweden is completely unjustified in doing this but maybe a better way would have been to have a more thorough process instead of completely banning a country, where many innocents, like myself, with no illegal intent also suffer for mistakes made by other people. I had to pay for a mistake I did not make. A deed that 370 Pakistanis committed. Only because I am also a Pakistani.

On the other hand, a friend of mine who was planning to go with me, who is also as Pakistani as it gets but was born in Canada and has Canadian citizenship, can go to Sweden any time, without even needing a visa. It is kind of ironic how the place you are born in has such an effect on your life.

In the end, after a long time of saving up money, making plans and getting excited, I was not given a visa because I was born in the wrong country. And a sad realisation dawned upon me, and a bleak realisation dawned on me; being a Pakistani automatically means I am a lesser human being. And this is how my childhood dream came to an end.

TIP:
Apply visa in some eastern EU country like Poland, Latvia, Estonia or Lithuania maybe you get scengen visa...
If you are an unmarried Pakistani, you cannot visit Sweden – The Express Tribune Blog
 
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Hello Faisal6309

I am a norwegian-pakistani born & raised up in Norway, live about 80 km from the swedish border. I am there often for shopping.

I will try to explain as good as i can. Sweden have for many years been a tolerant country, and have given was the second largest country after Germany (180.0000) to give asylum to immigrants from august 2013 to august 2014 (90000).

Sweden have in past 20-30 years given asylum to approximatly 1 million peoples from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Somalia, Eritrea, Chile etc etc Nowadays all syrians gets asylum in Sweden also eritrean people, also some afghani and somalies.

People of Sweden is fed up by this massive immigration and its daily riots and rasist attacks in Sweden as in other Europan countries nowadays.

Else we pakistanies have to admit that the war against terrorism and radacalization has ruined Pakistans reputation in the whole world. Pakistani are seen as untolerant people and potential radicals. Its on time that Pakistan get rid off all extremists.

Pakistan has to develope the country and establish top universities. Almost all all Indians are comming on business or study visa to the western countries. I know that pakistanies dont get business or study visa. Its maybe related to Pakistans bad reputation.

Western media is very intrested to publish news when any pakistani is involved, but for instance when any indian is involved the media is friendly.

I have met some indian peoples in Europe and Norway, they also admit that the life is more easy for indians. They gets jobs much easier, peoples are more friendly towards indians in western world.

Pakistanies have to admit that PPP, PML-N, army and radicalization has ruined Pakistan and not made it what it should become. But robbed by corrupt politicians. I cant understand why pakistani people still admires the politicians from PPP & PML-N which have ruined the country. And tested , tested again , and tested again for 40-50 years.

Appreciate your honest comments.Indians have good reputation abroad

 
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Hello Faisal6309

I am a norwegian-pakistani born & raised up in Norway, live about 80 km from the swedish border. I am there often for shopping.

I will try to explain as good as i can. Sweden have for many years been a tolerant country, and have given was the second largest country after Germany (180.0000) to give asylum to immigrants from august 2013 to august 2014 (90000).

Sweden have in past 20-30 years given asylum to approximatly 1 million peoples from Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Somalia, Eritrea, Chile etc etc Nowadays all syrians gets asylum in Sweden also eritrean people, also some afghani and somalies.

People of Sweden is fed up by this massive immigration and its daily riots and rasist attacks in Sweden as in other Europan countries nowadays.

Else we pakistanies have to admit that the war against terrorism and radacalization has ruined Pakistans reputation in the whole world. Pakistani are seen as untolerant people and potential radicals. Its on time that Pakistan get rid off all extremists.

Pakistan has to develope the country and establish top universities. Almost all all Indians are comming on business or study visa to the western countries. I know that pakistanies dont get business or study visa. Its maybe related to Pakistans bad reputation.

Western media is very intrested to publish news when any pakistani is involved, but for instance when any indian is involved the media is friendly.

I have met some indian peoples in Europe and Norway, they also admit that the life is more easy for indians. They gets jobs much easier, peoples are more friendly towards indians in western world.

Pakistanies have to admit that PPP, PML-N, army and radicalization has ruined Pakistan and not made it what it should become. But robbed by corrupt politicians. I cant understand why pakistani people still admires the politicians from PPP & PML-N which have ruined the country. And tested , tested again , and tested again for 40-50 years.

I heard Iraqi refugees/ immigrants ruined Muslim image in Malmo, is that correct?
 
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inferority complex for the blogger, same is the situation for the most eurpean countries..and for any sub continent country including india, pakistan or bangladesh..they dont want any illegal immigrant coming
 
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Yes, that is right. I think its a combination of many things among that, western people dont like muslims. I dont know why this hatred. Muslim world streches all the way from Maracco to Malaysia/Indonesia/China/Philephines. 1,75 billion peoples.

All muslims cant take responsibility for all other muslims deeds. But i will generally advice muslims to improve their reputation and live like other peoples. Try to eradicate extrimist elements.

I am bborn & raised in Norway and travel alot in Europe, and have good knowlege of whats happening in Europe. I am not sure if Indians are prefered because India is non muslim and Pakistan is disliked because Pakistan is a muslim country.

I know Indian peoples easier gets jobs etc here. if a pakistani and indian have the same education , Indian will get the job i will say. Islamofobia is high in Western countries now. Even Indian admit Europeans behaviour towards pakistani people is unfair harsh.




Appreciate your honest comments.Indians have good reputation abroad


I heard Iraqi refugees/ immigrants ruined Muslim image in Malmo, is that correct?


Yes, that right. You know these immigrants who gets visa for free in western countries without struggling for their visa are spoiled and belives they are the king of the the asylum granting country.

Arab people fight, do alot of criminality, dont integrate in the sociaty and i remember it was alot of rape case against minor girls when Arab/kurd and other asylum seekers newly arrived .
 
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well simple , go to Finland , or Norway . maybe he is pissed because they didnt let a unmarried guy to Sweden , and after marriage you cant just go like a animal and **** blondies ..... anyway lets go to Thailand :D
i am more of a person that likes beaches .. any suggestions ? Karachi beach sucks , so as Dubai ..

go to Sharm el Sheikh, Ain el Sokhna (both in Egypt) or Antalya (in Turkiye) if you appreciate beaches. I know I do too. Karachi (Clifton) beach is ehh - it's okay. Not bad, but not excellent.
 
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This is a typical racist attitude and all the more reason to see and recognize the real face of 'enlightened' west.

I accept that visa is a privilege not a right. But looking at the situation of the blogger, there is no apparent reason to deny a visa. Since some people tried to seek asylum does not mean everyone else will.
 
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the fact that over 2 pages you indians are talking about inferiority complex shows that in actuality it is YOUR people who suffer from the inferiority/slave complex

I actually feel sorry for you people sometimes. But then again it's not your fault you were born the way you are....short, and more often than not - unattractive



watch the interview in its entirety and then you'll know what he was responding to....it was a specific question about india's badmashi and how/why Pakistan can never be bullied by india (the way india bullies her other neighbours who are weak)

if you weren't so stupid you would have actually watched the interview before barking


Lol

One must be in the top 9 of failed states to carry an inferiority complex against pakistan and pakistanis of all people.
 
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