If Pak withdraws support to us, war will be fought there: Salahudin

[yyetttt]

Come Salahadin lots of nations have fallen here lets see you give it a try... India, Afghanistan, Iran have all failed in their ambitions here come you rat, namak haraam, we will teach you a lesson

 

[Edevelop]

We know that Pak government can't do $hit.and it's correct to blame them. However, i think the Army is there for support and will continue until the end...

 

[Talha Khan Abid]

India need give freedom to Kasmiri brothers and sister

 

[HZR2011]

If Pakistan govt is not supporting them then these guys should leave Kashmir and go take revenge on pak govt and teach them a good lesson in their terrorizing way...

 

[shelly]

india has 45% of Kashmir and claims balance 55% which is with Pak
pak has 55% of Kashmir and claims balance 45% which is with India
ind never sent terorists in pak to claim kashmir
then why is pak doing it, and waging war against india?

 

[yyetttt]

shelly pakistan only has 5% of Kashmir Gilgit-Baltistan is not Kashmir

 

[shelly]

shelly pakistan only has 5% of Kashmir Gilgit-Baltistan is not Kashmir

then jammu, and ladakh are also not a part of it right?
are we talkin only of kashmir valley here?

AFAIK india claims even GB and pak claims even ladkh and Jammu.

 

[Shardul.....the lion]

So it Pakistan and India succeed in resolving all disputes between them and maintain strong peace, this salludin will be jobless bastard and he will find new job of attacking Pakistan itself.......... what a selfish person.
jis thali mein kaaya usi mein toilet kar raha hai

 

[RuheTag]

india has 45% of Kashmir and claims balance 55% which is with Pak
pak has 55% of Kashmir and claims balance 45% which is with India
ind never sent terorists in pak to claim kashmir
then why is pak doing it, and waging war against india?

Just to put some facts right here:-

Initially they were not the 'terrorists' that Pakistan sent to create disturbance. They were IOK residents who, after being terrorisized by Indian Army in IOK, fleed into Azad Kashmir, regrouped, armed themselves and went back into Kashmir to fight Indian ARmy.

Yasim Malik a good example of it. One of his ear doesnt work well because he was tortured by Indian Army.

It was then after mass of such movement it generated public sympathy in Pakistan and non-kashmiri Pakistanis started joining them and militant organizations like Let came into being.

 

[shelly]

Just to put some facts right here:-

Initially they were not the 'terrorists' that Pakistan sent to create disturbance. They were IOK residents who, after being terrorisized by Indian Army in IOK, fleed into Pakistan, regrouped, armed themselves and went back into Kashmir to fight Indian ARmy.

Yasim Malik a good example of it. One of his ear doesnt work well because he was tortured by Indian Army.

It was then after mass of such move it generated sympathy in Pakistan and non-kashmiri Pakistanis started joining them and militant organizations came into being.

why are there regular attacks in other parts of india done by pak based people?
maulana masood azhar, zargar and many others are not native kashmiris who have created trror. the foot soldiers of trror are all punjabi and pashtun and others . i agree there are some kashmiris too.
ok but still the opint is, why is pak giving assistance to people doing terro on india using kashmir name. India never does that to pak , do they? thats my question.
why isnt PA stopping it. do you know in intl law, using your territoy wilfully to commit aggression against another constitures ac tof war?


why do you think india is So careful about giving any access to US military on its soil for any mission against pak or china?

 

[RuheTag]

why are there regular attacks in other parts of india done by pak based people?
maulana masood azhar, zargar and many others are not native kashmiris who have created trror. the foot soldiers of trror are all punjabi and pashtun and others . i agree there are some kashmiris too.
ok but still the opint is, why is pak giving assistance to people doing terro on india using kashmir name. India never does that to pak , do they? thats my question.
why isnt PA stopping it. do you know in intl law, using your territoy wilfully to commit aggression against another constitures ac tof war?


why do you think india is So careful about giving any access to US military on its soil for any mission against pak or china?

I am not talking about attacks in rest of India, as this thread is supposed to be about Kashmir.

Of course, any terrorist attack (anywhere be Kashmir or else where in India or anywhere else) on civillians cannot be justified and would qualify to be called a indiscriminate terrorist attack.

However, to my belief, Pakistani state is not sponsering any terrorism in India. Although unfortunately it do happens that some terrorist attacks have links to Pakistan but it doesnt mean that it is goverment behind it. Same like Pakistani goverment and army cannot stop and pre-empt every attack on them by militants, it cannot stop (althoug it should try its best to stop) every militant from joining any terrorist plot against India.

Still, in contrary to the perception in India, Not every terrorist attack in India originates from Pakistan, there is a lot of home grown terrorism in India whose detail I would not post here, even the Mumbai attacks were planned by some US guy now in their custody. He recruited foot soldiers from Pakistan. It was a unfortunate event and I think the Pakistani goverment should make maximum efforts to ensure that any memebrs of that plot in Pakistan get punished.

 

[shelly]

I am not talking about attacks in rest of India, as this thread is supposed to be about Kashmir.

Of course, any terrorist attack (anywhere be Kashmir or else where in India or anywhere else) on civillians cannot be justified and would qualify to be called a indiscriminate terrorist attack.

However, to my belief, Pakistani state is not sponsering any terrorism in India. Although unfortunately it do happens that some terrorist attacks have links to Pakistan but it doesnt mean that it is goverment behind it. Same like Pakistani goverment and army cannot stop and pre-empt every attack on them by militants, it cannot stop (althoug it should try its best to stop) every militant from joining any terrorist plot against India.

Still, in contrary to the perception in India, Not every terrorist attack in India originates from Pakistan, there is a lot of home grown terrorism in India whose detail I would not post here, even the Mumbai attacks were planned by some US guy now in their custody. He recruited foot soldiers from Pakistan. It was a unfortunate event and I think the Pakistani goverment should make maximum efforts to ensure that any memebrs of that plot in Pakistan get punished.

the insurgencies in punjab in the 80s and then in kashmir after soviet wthdrawal in afg, cannot have happened w/o pak state support. another eg is dawood being sheltered by pak govt even after his involvement in masterminding mumbai bomings.

but to get to the crux of the matter, wh y is pak not cracking down on LeT whose base is in muridke. arrest hafeez saeed and that lakhvi guy also. what you are saying is that sophisticated attacks are done solely by individuals. not possible

What i agree with you is that there is home grown trror of late. but again the command is in pak.

 

[RuheTag]

the insurgencies in punjab in the 80s and then in kashmir after soviet wthdrawal in afg, cannot have happened w/o pak state support. another eg is dawood being sheltered by pak govt even after his involvement in masterminding mumbai bomings.

but to get to the crux of the matter, wh y is pak not cracking down on LeT whose base is in muridke. arrest hafeez saeed and that lakhvi guy also. what you are saying is that sophisticated attacks are done solely by individuals. not possible

What i agree with you is that there is home grown trror of late. but again the command is in pak.

Let is banned in Pakistan and they now operate as JuD. I dont know if they are still actively carrying out attacks in IOK. But I wont believe they have still the same immunity they had in the 1990s. Still theey have a lot of public support and they do alot of social work. It is not easy to crack down on them by dis-credited dysfunctional upopular PPP Goverment (led by Zardari). Army cannot act on its own to attack their HQ in Muridke.

Yes, there was direct or indirect support to militants in the 1990s from Pakistani state, but that was due to the unrest in IOK and Indian unwillingness even to recognize Kashmir as an issue.

 

[Abingdonboy]

So he's pretty much admitting he has no desire to see any tangible solution to the situation but just wants to keep fighting for the sake of fighting? Showing hi true colours- he doesn't give a rat's *** about the Kashmiri people or peace only war. This is not the kind of person we want walking this earth.

 

[RuheTag]

If Kashmir issue is resolved, that will pull the carpet from under the feet of these extremists. They will have no sympathy anymore.

As long as Kashmir issue is not resolved, and Indian Army is sitting in IOK cities, there will always be a sympathy and cause that these militants can use.