If Joe Biden doesn’t want to talk to PM Imran Khan then Good Luck!!! No one is waiting here either- says NSA Moeed Yusuf

[El Sidd]

As NSA he has a task at hand in advising on affairs of a country where the following statement holds true:

An anti American public and a pro American government.

 

[graphican]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408238831539609600

Full Interview with Shahzeb Khanzada.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

How does this make any sense? What a strange world.

Officers from #Pakistan Army & Air Force are participating in #US CENTCOM hosted multilateral wargame “Regional Cooperation 2021”. The exercise aims to improve capabilities between coalition forces and improve the ability to conduct joint operations while building closer ties.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

Full Interview with Shahzeb Khanzada.

This man is a superstar. He needs to be around these decision making corridors for some time to get his Moeed Doctrine in place. Moeed is a solid Pakistani, and I am very happy he is in the position he is in.

 

[Patriot forever]

How does this make any sense? What a strange world.
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I cant comprehend the analogy, what does this has to the do with giving US bases on our land?

Pakistan army has these kind of exercises with a dozen countries. Pakistan has these sort of exercises with China aswell. So which side are we on?

 

[TigerOfMysore]

I cant comprehend the analogy, what does this has to the do with giving US bases on our land?

Pakistan army has these kind of exercises with a dozen countries. Pakistan has these sort of exercises with China aswell. So which side are we on?

I guess my simple point is: I don't see China or Russia doing these exercises. Nations have a singular front, not a front that is military and then civil. Army needs to operate under some semblance of unanimity.
You have a situation where the US President refuses to speak to our PM, where he refused to invite him to a environment conference, where the US is putting pressure through FATF and IMF and hurting our economy. Where the US is blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan, where the US has stopped all CSF support, where the US is not supplying anything of worth in terms of military gear and actively trying to hurt our CPEC project. What is worse is they are arming your arch enemy and enabling that enemy to hurt you in every sense of the imagination. And you think all is fine on the "proverbial western front". Pakistanis should have some shame and national pride. Till US changes some of these policies what is the point of doing these joint exercises, which often serve as a recruitment opportunity, for foreign intel agencies.

 

[Patriot forever]

Instead of bending over for Saudis, Emiratis, Chinese and many others, if bending over is inevitable it should be to the Americans. That single country can make or break our financial backbone and we need a lot of good grace to come out of the PTI ditch that we have dug ourselves into......PTI supporters will not yet understand what I mean, they will find out a year into the next Government by which time the cat will be out of the bag and water over our heads!

Can you even comprehend the consequences of giving America bases on our soil to directly attack Afghanistan (Afghan taliban).

By reading your comment I feel so proud of chosing the side which best represents the interest of Pakistan. May be your Party should not have left the country in such miserable economic condition that during the last days of your governement you initiated with imf for a bailout package.


Maybe its time you realize the American intention. By having bases and attacking Afghan taliban directly from our soil, we would become open enemies to them. They want to pitch us against Afghan Taliban, and on the other hand allow US ( along with India) to fully raise an another insurgency against us on our own soil. With the afghan taliban against us along with the current Indian puppet governemnt, India will have a field day in Afghanistan with complete impunity like never before.

The terrorism economic destruction loss of lives, along with the entire lot of snakes on our soil. That would be our end. India will practically dominate south Asia (the true goal) and China will no longer be as close.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Jawab tu mil chuka hai, apna waqt na zaya karain..

It reminds me, udhar mang kay sharminda na Karain. Lol

@VCheng

That is some punch line. Lol

 

[Patriot forever]

I guess my simple point is: I don't see China or Russia doing these exercises. Nations have a singular front, not a front that is military and then civil. Army needs to operate under some semblance of unanimity.
You have a situation where the US President refuses to speak to our PM, where he refused to invite him to a environment conference, where the US is putting pressure through FATF and IMF and hurting our economy. Where the US is blaming Pakistan for Afghanistan, where the US has stopped all CSF support, where the US is not supplying anything of worth in terms of military gear and actively trying to hurt our CPEC project. What is worse is they are arming your arch enemy and enabling that enemy to hurt you in every sense of the imagination. And you think all is fine on the "proverbial western front". Pakistanis should have some shame and national pride. Till US changes some of these policies what is the point of doing these joint exercises, which often serve as a recruitment opportunity, for foreign intel agencies.

I understand your point, but we dont want to be open enemies or alienate US completely, even from a military point of view.

We should know the difference between protecting our interests ( not following everthing they say or giving everything they ask for) and not completely alienating ourselves either.

Even with India we do exchange sweets and they do likewise ( ofcourse its not the same thing but India is our open declared enemy and to them we are declared open enemies). I hope you understsnd my point bro.

Didnt CIA director recentky visited Pakistan.

 

[Mav3rick]

Can you even comprehend the consequences of giving America bases on our soil to directly attack Afghanistan (Afghan taliban).

If it means wiping off our debt and pouring in of Billions of USD then I don't care about any other country in the world. For me, Pakistan comes first and foremost.

By reading your comment I feel so proud of chosing the side which best represents the interest of Pakistan. May be your Party should not have left the country in such miserable economic condition that during the last days of your governement you initiated with imf for a bailout package.

I pray that you are right and I am wrong and that we come out better economically. Alas, I am neither a fool nor impervious to the condition of our finances and direction of our economy. But, a man can still dream of a better tomorrow.

Maybe its time you realize the American intention. By having bases and attacking Afghan taliban directly from our soil, we would become open enemies to them. They want to pitch us against Afghan Taliban, and on the other hand allow US ( along with India) to fully raise an another insurgency against us on our own soil. With the afghan taliban against us along with the current Indian puppet governemnt, India will have a field day in Afghanistan with complete impunity like never before.

Who cares about India? India can go to hell for all we care. What we want is a secure, prosperous Pakistan and for that we need strong backing of a Super Power and hundreds of Billions of USD. We can seal our border with Afghanistan, mine the entire area and let the back stabber deal with their own problems.

The terrorism economic destruction loss of lives, along with the entire lot of snakes on our soil. That would be our end. India will practically dominate south Asia (the true goal) and China will no longer be as close.

Chinese help over the years, although appreciated, has not converted or translated into meaningful support. US support for 5 years changes direction of our country whereas Chinese support for the past 15-20 years hasn't contributed as meaningfully as we all had expected. Even CPEC has yet to start benefitting us as we all expected. For how long can be stay aligned to the Chinese for petty support? On the contrary, if the US decides to help us all out, we can **** India in the *** and contain Afghan insurgency amongst other problems in our region!

 

[crankthatskunk]

The Americans are heavily tilted towards India. It is fair to say that the Indians have infiltrated the US like the Zionists at every level. I said this years ago and today my point is even more valid. The Indians fully dictate Pakistan foreign policy of the US. The US has no say in the relationship between US and Pakistan. India dictates the terms and agenda.

Pakistanis would be foolish to waste time with the Americans. The Americans have already made up their mind. Pakistan should even forget about trade and anything else with the US. The US is not interested in a normal relationship with Pakistan. Their view and policy of Pakistan is solely confined to Afghanistan and Hindustan. When Pakistan is mentioned the US administration can only think of Afghanistan and India.

I will have to give credit to Pakistan. They did the right thing by allying extensively with China. Let's focus on US exit from Afghanistan and bringing in major regional players like China and Russia. Let's try to stabalise Afghanistan through regional actors and let's exclude the Americans. The Americans have only one goal in mind. Propping up India against China. US deep state obsession with India and enmity against China is blinding them. We cannot be part of US warmongering against China. Pakistan must only think of regional trade and pacts.

I am very VERY glad the Americans have shown their intentions from the very beginning. Papa Joe Biden is a grumpy old bastard. He can't finish a sentence and Kamala stands in his shadow. We know where this is going. Let's not make old mistakes and strengthen our regional policy. The Pak military and the civilian rulers are on one page. Maximum leverage and success must be extracted.

What Pakistan should do in Afghanistan after USA withdrawal is to give good hiding to the Indians. Excellent time to get rid of Indians and their influence in Afghanistan to certain degree.
Indians can sense it, therefore, they are trying to open talks with even Taliban.
This is the time to hit them hard let them bleed. Hammer Time.

 

[Dalit]

What Pakistan should do in Afghanistan after USA withdrawal is to give good hiding to the Indians. Excellent time to get rid of Indians and their influence in Afghanistan to certain degree.
Indians can sense it, therefore, they are trying to open talks with even Taliban.
This is the time to hit them hard let them bleed. Hammer Time.

Absolutely. We know why Hindustanis are holding daylight therapy sessions with the Taliban LOL It won't save them though.

 

[PradoTLC]

Instead of bending over for Saudis, Emiratis, Chinese and many others, if bending over is inevitable it should be to the Americans. That single country can make or break our financial backbone and we need a lot of good grace to come out of the PTI ditch that we have dug ourselves into......PTI supporters will not yet understand what I mean, they will find out a year into the next Government by which time the cat will be out of the bag and water over our heads!

Silly comment

 

[Dalit]

If it means wiping off our debt and pouring in of Billions of USD then I don't care about any other country in the world. For me, Pakistan comes first and foremost.





I pray that you are right and I am wrong and that we come out better economically. Alas, I am neither a fool nor impervious to the condition of our finances and direction of our economy. But, a man can still dream of a better tomorrow.





Who cares about India? India can go to hell for all we care. What we want is a secure, prosperous Pakistan and for that we need strong backing of a Super Power and hundreds of Billions of USD. We can seal our border with Afghanistan, mine the entire area and let the back stabber deal with their own problems.





Chinese help over the years, although appreciated, has not converted or translated into meaningful support. US support for 5 years changes direction of our country whereas Chinese support for the past 15-20 years hasn't contributed as meaningfully as we all had expected. Even CPEC has yet to start benefitting us as we all expected. For how long can be stay aligned to the Chinese for petty support? On the contrary, if the US decides to help us all out, we can **** India in the *** and contain Afghan insurgency amongst other problems in our region!

Luckily your views aren't shared by the vast majority.

Pakistan will choose China over the US a million times over.

 

[PradoTLC]

How does this make any sense? What a strange world.
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Bcos US needs us more than we need them ..,they are just experts in perception management… they tell the world the opposite of what is true

If it means wiping off our debt and pouring in of Billions of USD then I don't care about any other country in the world. For me, Pakistan comes first and foremost.

You clearly haven’t read US Pakistan history…..

you have no clue what you are taking about