If Iran gets a nuke, we have to get one: Saudi crown prince

[MMM-E]

Turks were slaves of Saffarid, Tahirid and Samanid for centuries

Only in your fantasy world ........our ex slaves

Persians ruled you +1000 years before Islam and then Turks slaved you and changed your religion culture and language

Persians ruled part of Anatolia 2.500 years ago when we Turks were in central Asia

We great warrior TURKs came from central Asia and conquered Iran , Iraq , Syria , Caucasus , Anatolia , Greece , Egypt and other 40 countries in 3 continents

and we TURKs ruled all of you in the last 1.000 years


Now Turkiye is only industrialized country in the region

and our rivals are France , The UK , Russia in defense industry ,, but not backward Iran

 

[lydian fall]

Only Turkish Air Force is enough to turn Iranian cities into stone age

Thousands of Turkish NEB Bombs .... 1 NEB Bomb can destroy a Building

870 kg NEB Bomb has 480-500 kg warhead as like a Ballistic Missile
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Daydreamer Persians thinks only backward Iran has missiles in the region ... lol


Turkiye has also all kinds of missiles with superior guidance capability to hit the targets with pinpoint accurracy ( below 3 m ) from 1.000+ km away

Turkish CENK MRBM which coverage all capitals in the region including Tehran , Tel Aviv , Cairo
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Keep dreaming with your profile picture 2.500 years ago

Iran was ruled by the TURKS for over 950 years until 1925

British saved pathetic Persians from the TURKS in 1925

Turks were slaves of Saffarid, Tahirid and Samanid for centuries

Then they became faithful Muslims and established Seljuk empire and they conquered Byzantine and turkified them by Persian culture religion alphabet and even words

Persians ruled you +1000 years before Islam and then Persianized Turks slaved you and changed your everything !

And now you call yourself turk while only less than 7% of your people have central Asian or Turk DNA and Anatolis mostly have Persian and Greek DNA

Anatolia DNA: (copmare it with Iranians)

 

[ReasonableStar75]

Please don t disturb the main focus of this thread with fake turkish users history and rant.

Every one here know that Turkiyeah has been invaded by every people of asia, iranian, mongols, arabs....

Turkiyeh empire was because Islam, if not were by that turkiyeh would be nothing in modern history.

Kalizelma has ukranian engines and here they phantasyzing about being a great military power, cheap iranian missiles can destroy this subsonic semi warplane easily...

Poor, really poor, to see your proud on this.

 

[Fasbre2]

There is only one marketplace on planet earth that sells nuclear weapons.

Now we know where the supposed 25billion investment going come from …

Fauji army surplus stores limited… a member of the Fauji industries group..
Anything you want we can supply, ammunition with free mercenaries, nuc raw materials, fully assembled devices or knock down kits and DIY parts.. everything supplied…
We just want to see the colour of your money… greenbacks preferred…

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Please don t disturb the main focus of this thread with fake turkish users history and rant.

Every one here know that Turkiyeah has been invaded by every people of asia, iranian, mongols, arabs....

Turkiyeh empire was because Islam, if not were by that turkiyeh would be nothing in modern history.

Kalizelma has ukranian engines and here they phantasyzing about being a great military power, cheap iranian missiles can destroy this subsonic semi warplane easily...

Poor, really poor, to see your proud on this.

Qahar-313 is better?

 

[Trisolaran]

Ohh why you turned to Pakistan?

Did I say anything, about Pakistan?

I only said, without NATO and USA, support.. Try this, what you said with your world best technologies

What exactly NATO and USA give Turkey so importand that we cannot survive without it ?

 

[ReasonableStar75]

Qahar-313 is better?

Yes Qahar will be better. This is because project is taking time. Iranians are doing a nice project, a mature porject for their forces, not a nonsense platform like kilizelma, that cannot operate in any serious air space.

Beside, Iran qaher drone wont have any noisy ukranian engines, and will be stealthier, Iran has the experience and the knowledge, in stealth materials and technologies, they are really experts, they destroy all stealth stuff from the US, they have the knowledge, because they study this materials from the US debris...

Beyond that, not only conventional missiles would destroy kilizelma, electronic branch of iranian army would hack easily any kilizelma communications... you are alread ycompromised by superior iranian technologies and electronics capabilities warfare.

You turkiyeh, i say again can only compete with Greece, you are very medium power. Always will be, Iran is not going to you to do better,to be better.

 

[Trisolaran]

Turks were slaves of Saffarid, Tahirid and Samanid for centuries

Then they became faithful Muslims and established Seljuk empire and they conquered Byzantine and turkified them by Persian culture religion alphabet and even words

Persians ruled you +1000 years before Islam and then Persianized Turks slaved you and changed your everything !

And now you call yourself turk while only less than 7% of your people have central Asian or Turk DNA and Anatolis mostly have Persian and Greek DNA

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So we were persianized for thousand year but when we invade anatolia we decide to Turkified that region instead of Persianize ? lmao Seljuk Turks invade Iran and we take Persian culture like how Romans take Greek culture,

 

[MMM-E]

And now you call yourself turk while only less than 7% of your people have central Asian or Turk DNA and Anatolis mostly have Persian and Greek DNA

Pathetic slave learn about genetics and history



According to a small-scale study
Only 24% of Turkish population has J2

R1a and R1b = Turk DNA ...... And around 30% of Turkish population has R1a , R1b , C and N from central Asia


Turkiye = Ottoman Empire

Millions of Kurds , Arabs , Bosnians , Albanians , Georgians , Circassians , et came to Anatolia from Middle East , Balkans and Caucasus

even over 4 million Arabs,Kurds,Turkmen came to Turkiye from Syria in the last 10 years





When proto Turkic Peoples lived 45.000 years ago in Central Asia.........Persians,Greeks ,,Germans,,French,,British,,Russians,,etc were not in the World

P1-M45 ( proto Turkic peoples )
Time of origin : 45.000 years ago
Place of origin : Central asia and Southeast Asia
Descendants Haplogroup Q and R


American Geneticists have proved that Europeans , Russians , Native Americans and most of Indians have Turk blood

Haplogroup R ( Russians,,French,,Germans,,British , Turks )
Time of origin : 26,800 years ago
Place of origin : Central Asia

Genetic history of P1-M45: Proto-Turkic ancestors of Europeans, Native Americans and Indians​

P1-M45: Proto-Turkic ancestors of Europeans, Native Americans and Indian R1a and R1b

 

[lydian fall]

So we were persianized for thousand year but when we invade anatolia we decide to Turkified that region instead of Persianize ? lmao Seljuk Turks invade Iran and we take Persian culture like how Romans take Greek culture,

Highly Persianized[64] in culture[65] and language,[66] the Seljuks also played an important role in the development of the Turko-Persian tradition,[67] even exporting Persian culture to Anatolia.[68][69] Under the Seljuks, Persian was also used for books lecturing about politics in the Mirrors for princes genre, such as the prominent Siyasatnama (Book of Politics) composed by Nizam al-Mulk.[70] During this period, these type of books consciously made use of Islamic and Iranian traditions, such as an ideal government based on the Islamic prophet Muhammad and his successors, or the Sasanian King of Kings Khosrow I (r. 531–579).[60]

Head of male royal figure, 12–13th century, found in Iran
In most of their coins, the Seljuk sultans used the Sasanian title of shahanshah (King of Kings), and even used the old Buyid title of "Shahanshah of Islam."[71] The title of malik was used by lesser princes of the Seljuk family.

Seljuk Empire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Turkification - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[reflecthofgeismar]

Qahar-313 is better?

Iranians don't have the luxury to go on a NATO shopping spree like Turkey can, Turks did and will do as long as they are a Western™ partner.
Iranians use foreign technology too and copy stuff but they usually don't brag about "100% indigenious" and stuff like that.
Do you really think that Turkey is technological on a level with West/Mid European countries or the US?
Then you are more than delusional.
Russians have a hard time, everything which is high tech came from "The West™" before, Iranians endure sanctions since 4 decades and learnt the ways to get dual-use products.

 

[MMM-E]

Do you really think that Turkey is technological on a level with West/Mid European countries or the US?

AVIATION INDUSTRY
in 2028-2030 , Turkiye will enter top 5 USA , Russia , China , Europe and Turkiye

-- HURKUS trainer and light Attack Aircraft
-- HURJET trainer and light Attack Fighter Jet
-- KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jet
-- KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
-- ANKA-3 flying wing deep strike stealth UCAV

-- TB-2 , TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
-- SUPER SIMSEK , KARGI kamikaze Drones

-- T-629 light Attack Helicopter
-- T-929 heavy Attack Helicopter

-- T-625 utility Helicopter ( 6 tons )
-- T-925 utility Helicopter ( 10+ tons )

-- Satelittes
-- Hybrid Rocket Engine and Liquid propellant Rocket Engine technologies for Turkish Space Program
-- Satellite Launch Vehicle

-- TF-6.000 and TF-10.000 turbofan Engines for ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA
-- TF-35.000 turbofan Engines for KAAN
-- TS-1.400 and TS-3.000 turboshaft Engines for Helicopters
-- PD-170 and PD-220 Engines for TB-3 , ANKA , AKSUNGUR and AKINCI UCAVs
-- KTJ-1750 , KTJ-3200 , KTJ-3700 turbojet Engines for CAKIR , SOM , ATMACA Cruise Missiles
-- TEI PG-50 and TEI TJ-90 Engine to power Kamikaze Drones


ALSO
-- REDET-II Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- Airborne stand off Jammer
-- Targeting and EW Jamming Pods
-- FEWS EW Suite for Fighter Jets
-- HEWS EW Suite for Helicopters
-- ERALP Early warning AESA Radar ( GaN ) technology )
-- MURAD and BURFIS AESA Radars ( GaN ) technology ) for Fighter Jets
-- TULGAR Helmet Integrated Imaging System
-- IRST , BEOS/EOTS (Advanced optical Systems)
-- Directional Infrared Counter Measures .. ( Aselsan YILDIRIM DIRCM)
-- MILDAR Millimeter wave fire control Radar for Attack Helicopters
-- HEHSIS 360 degree Electronic Warfare Counter Measure System

All kinds of Missiles and Guided Bombs
-- SOM , CAKIR , KUZGUN-TJ air launched Cruise Missile
-- KEMANKES mini smart Cruise Missile
-- AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missile
-- IHA-230 air launched supersonic Ballistic Missile

-- TEBER , HGK , KGK , LGK , NEB , TOLUN , SDB guided Bombs

-- BOZDOGAN WVR Air to Air Missile
-- GOKDOGAN BVR Air to Air Missile
-- GOKHAN ramjet powered long range Air to Air Missile

-- KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG with airbust ammunition
-- SUNGUR MANPADS
-- GURZ hybrid Air Defense System
-- GOKDEMIR medium altitude Air Defense System
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- GUMS Ballistic Missile Intercaptor


Backward Countries like Iran , India only can dream about it

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

What exactly NATO and USA give Turkey so importand that we cannot survive without it ?

wht you talking about, technology.

You can thank the USA; it would not be possible to do what you are doing now.

If iRAN can survive, then you will as well, but I was talking to the most recent technological advancements and NATO's demonstration of a sense of security.

 

[K_Bin_W]

If there is a country that has used nukes or will use nukes is/will be a non-Muslim country... I very strongly suggest that the Muslim world arm itself with a massive nuclear arsenal. Its a medicine where it turns terrorists into very civilized little terrorists overnight.

 

[Darth Vader]

it will be hell of a lot cheaper and make more political sense to have some sort of defense pact with Pak ( which i think already exists to some level ), where the attack on KSA will be taken as an attack on Pakistan its a lot easier and cheaper to just buy Pakistani generals