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If Germany had not lost World War I, would the world be a better place?

Not a proper way, check forum terms & rules for the same. You are copying stuff from a source while using Internet so the source must be mentioned to credit.


Not the first time. He has been told innumerable times. But that's the saving grace. Shortly he will revert to his posting and then the fun begins. We just got off after reading and enjoying his posts on a war scenario between India and Bangladesh, a thread which he started. Suggest read it for a nice tickle.

You merely need to google where last khalifa ran after fall of ottoman empire to realise his truth. I am not talking about Khalifa Umar and Abu bakar as that was a different caliphate entirely. Modern Caliphate was very much different and was not based on any muslim value you are talking about here.

No law is valid untill it is imposed fairly across the board. If a country or empire can be broken by internal strife then it was weak and pathetic and it definitely had lost support of its people. No government in the world can survive without the support of its people as the latest example we just saw in turkey. If they people were supporting the khalifa then he would have definitely won but instead he ran like chicken to Germany.


All his properly formed sentences are googled and copied. None of any post which is somewhat grammatically correct is his.

He is a master at plagiarism, but loved by all of us for much needed entertainment.

Tagging people who are his admirers.

@PARIKRAMA @Rain Man @nair @ito @Spring Onion (if you are not his fan after the last thread, kindly let know; I assume his brilliance makes everyone his fan in a few posts).


Welcome to another round of continued education.
 
mostly Agreed with you. Calipha means calipha. their duty is same to same. Follow quran and run the state . If u talk about modern chalipha then why last calipha didn't give 1 ince of palestine to the jews. When they were offered him industrious money. May be some chaliph didn't conquer any land. so we can't say that chaliph is bad or worse. bcz their loyalty is in the same direction.

Again khilafah will come, this is an authentic hadit . Yes u r right widout public support it is not possible.




U r non- muslim- that doesnt mean i m telling lie. Go and study , that why i am blaming Christians and jews for the factor.

Terrorism and war on terrorism is different thing . War on terrorism made by bush and tony blayer. Why ? in the 16th century why Christians came to istambul? jews came from spain? for the betterment of their livinghood. Now by the name of capitalism u ate socialism and can't eat islamism. This is where western leaders stacked.



**Ottoman Empire (Most Islamic countries except Subcontinent Muslims & East Asians Muslim nations)-- in the time of Sultan Sulyman in 16th century ottoman caliph sent army to the East asia. Babor- Humayon, Akbar- they were bound to give yearly taxes to the caliph. so u can't tell East Asia was nt part of ottoman caliphate.

What technique caliphate used, nowadays western modified those techniques.

Excuse me but when did i claim islam as my religion? i do not honesty recall ever saying this. however my best friend is a Jordanian thus i do respect most Muslims other then backwards ones (& i hate backwards Christians also so you can't accuse me of bias on that).
i'm not even a christian or a jew. however you seem to think i am one in-spite of never asking me what i am, but making an assumption that i am because i'm from a western country.
if you honesty think socialism's defeat was bad (& if you are muslim) you are naive. the socialists violently repressed your religion in both the USSR & in China. the captialist system has never made an outright attempt to repress & destroy islam (in fact Muslim traders milked & flourished the capitalist system in the Islamic golden age). also the christians didn't really come to Istanbul. they were already there when the city fell & many were brought from conquered lands in the balkans (like the jannisaries which converted to islam). the jews did immigrate in mass to islamic lands however.
 
there was nothing imperialistic about WW1 for your information. the Austrian heir was murdered by a Serbian Balkan terrorist (ironically the same ones later started killing muslims). austria asked the serbs politely to allow a joint police investigation into the black hand & the Serbian government refused (because most of their generals & many politicans supported the black hand)
the Russians refused to allow Austria to pressure the Serbs into the investigation & the french backed the russians out of their hate of Germany. the Brits then declared war after Germany went through Belgium to attack the french which were about to attack both through Belgium (with permission from the king of Belgium) & Alsace-Lorraine.
any & all guilt should rest upon the government of serbia for it's support of terrorism against Austria, the french for their support for Russia & Russia for it's support of the Serbian government in-spite of the fact that the Serbs supported a terrorist attack upon a foreign country. Berlin did nothing but fulfill it's defensive pact with Vienna.
"more hateful USA' ha, how exactly did you come to this conclusion?

Hmmm, well then I have not studied the correct version of history, but then history is not exactly neutral, is it?
"More hateful USA" well USA has killed more than a million muslims in Iraq and hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan, they did libya, egypt and then attempted Turkey, more than enough to qualify as a hateful country.

Where and when?

World war II.
 
Hmmm, well then I have not studied the correct version of history, but then history is not exactly neutral, is it?
"More hateful USA" well USA has killed more than a million muslims in Iraq and hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan, they did libya, egypt and then attempted Turkey, more than enough to qualify as a hateful country.



World war II.
good point on history's lack of neutrality.
& yes they did kill a large amount of people in these countries (& in many more also). what i was wondering was how on earth could a German victory in WW1 make the US more hostile then it is in our own timeline?
 
good point on history's lack of neutrality.
& yes they did kill a large amount of people in these countries (& in many more also). what i was wondering was how on earth could a German victory in WW1 make the US more hostile then it is in our own timeline?

What I said is "Germany would be the USA of today, only much more bad than current USA".
Had Germany won, USA wouldn't be what it is today anyway :)
 
What I said is "Germany would be the USA of today, only much more bad than current USA".
Had Germany won, USA wouldn't be what it is today anyway :)

the US in 1917 although had a small army was an economic superpower. the US had more production then any of the other top 4 industrial giants (Germany, Britain & Austria-Hungary). the US although a flawed & very corrupt nation was destined to become a power regardless about how anyone felt about it. Germany however would have not likely engaged in multiple wars across the globe for random reasons. from 1871 until 1914 Germany was actually a vocal advocate of peace on the globe (under bismarck this was done to keep france isolated & to maintain balance & under wilhelm the 2nd this was to prevent a change within the old monarchist line.)
it is worth noting before the war the kaiser attempted to reach out to Tsar Nicolas ii (who was his cousin) to try & prevent a European wide war... ultimately it was the Tsar's refusal to defy his pro-serbian pan slavic council of advisers that prevented a backpedal from the great war
 
the US in 1917 although had a small army was an economic superpower. the US had more production then any of the other top 4 industrial giants (Germany, Britain & Austria-Hungary). the US although a flawed & very corrupt nation was destined to become a power regardless about how anyone felt about it. Germany however would have not likely engaged in multiple wars across the globe for random reasons. from 1871 until 1914 Germany was actually a vocal advocate of peace on the globe (under bismarck this was done to keep france isolated & to maintain balance & under wilhelm the 2nd this was to prevent a change within the old monarchist line.)
it is worth noting before the war the kaiser attempted to reach out to Tsar Nicolas ii (who was his cousin) to try & prevent a European wide war... ultimately it was the Tsar's refusal to defy his pro-serbian pan slavic council of advisers that prevented a backpedal from the great war

What I mean is that as if Germany had won, it would have been freaking powerful.
That would not make USA the super power it is today, there would be a balance and in that balance USA would not have done all things it has done today and get away with it.
 
Excuse me but when did i claim islam as my religion? i do not honesty recall ever saying this. however my best friend is a Jordanian thus i do respect most Muslims other then backwards ones (& i hate backwards Christians also so you can't accuse me of bias on that).
i'm not even a christian or a jew. however you seem to think i am one in-spite of never asking me what i am, but making an assumption that i am because i'm from a western country.
if you honesty think socialism's defeat was bad (& if you are muslim) you are naive. the socialists violently repressed your religion in both the USSR & in China. the captialist system has never made an outright attempt to repress & destroy islam (in fact Muslim traders milked & flourished the capitalist system in the Islamic golden age). also the christians didn't really come to Istanbul. they were already there when the city fell & many were brought from conquered lands in the balkans (like the jannisaries which converted to islam). the jews did immigrate in mass to islamic lands however.


This is what we say clash of ideology . In summary - Capitalism vs Islam.
 
Not the first time. He has been told innumerable times. But that's the saving grace. Shortly he will revert to his posting and then the fun begins. We just got off after reading and enjoying his posts on a war scenario between India and Bangladesh, a thread which he started. Suggest read it for a nice tickle


@hellfire Life is a sequence of happenings till the soul departs and till that very last moment, human learns even sometimes tastes the death as the last experience alas, we forget too early being mortals and starts to act like "I know all".

The irony is, such problem exists mostly in sub-continent whereby, if you offer help, the most feels offended or I must say, a case of inferiority complex. I usually avoid engaging Unnecessarily Flying Objects that itself will crash soon being out of fuel and uselessly lost energy. Hope you will understand.

But on other hand, forced by habit, we all love to help and share our experience not to pretend to be the In-Charge in situation but for betterment and progress of individual and society in whole. The resistance to learn is just a minor element inside us but it is our weakness and fear that we think of it as a monster which ultimately controls our approach and becomes commander.

No offense intended to anyone just my thoughts.

BTW, I have been visiting that thread regularly, that you mentioned, gone through all, being a member, felt my responsibility to advice that how to make it better from the start (in the same manners whereby we learn from others in beginning for us) and was not expecting such response but still I will play my part for the change and betterment.

@Major d1 try to do things in a better way may inspire others to learn and share. No one commands anyone here but there are rules set for the good and as tools for polishing to do it better than before. Everyone is here to share the thoughts, experience, knowledge, analysis and opinions so no need to take it as an opposition or offense. You and all of us are encouraged to do things for the growth but there is always room for improvement so we need to utilize that advantage/a gift as well.

The place built upon the innocents blood and after brutality, couldn't be a better place and one of the reasons is the haunting of crimes and sins one did. Start of such large scale war is no different than the situation of today's wars in the name of terrorism and it is all based upon the interests and needs of the nations in power. Germany in those times and the current worldly powers are no different but the ground and tactics does not resemble because of strategy adopted for the same cause touted by the inner monster for the power.

Through first point of view, Germany started that for her nation and thought for a greater Germany and in the same time deprived many nations outside of Germany, from their rights and sabotaged their growth while introduced another idea to the modern and upcoming world to develop more weapons. As per second point of view, the opposition portrays that it was started by herself but one has to see through the prospective of Germans that why such necessity was felt that caused such war.

Did they lost the war, I don't think so because the ideology is still carried by today's powers that waged wars on many nations just for the benefits based upon self-made and cooked theories/findings and almost of us are adding the fuel to the same as everybody wants to hear/believe what he/she likes not the truth. The ideology has not lost though the on host cannot hold it further passed it on and others are still doing the same what they did.
 
Not the first time. He has been told innumerable times. But that's the saving grace. Shortly he will revert to his posting and then the fun begins. We just got off after reading and enjoying his posts on a war scenario between India and Bangladesh, a thread which he started. Suggest read it for a nice tickle.




All his properly formed sentences are googled and copied. None of any post which is somewhat grammatically correct is his.

He is a master at plagiarism, but loved by all of us for much needed entertainment.

Tagging people who are his admirers.

@PARIKRAMA @Rain Man @nair @ito @Spring Onion (if you are not his fan after the last thread, kindly let know; I assume his brilliance makes everyone his fan in a few posts).


Welcome to another round of continued education.
You should have included me , i have appealed against his ban twice already, he makes my monotonous evenings into something else.
But he is back with another ID intent on murdering a beautiful language. :)
 
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You should have included me , i have appealed against his ban in twice already, he makes my monotonus evenings into something else.
But he is back with another ID intent on murdering a beautiful language. :)

Wilco sir. You are added on invite list ;)
 
Most Zionists were pro German at the beginning of the war. They didn't like Russia which massively persecuted Jews at the time. They changed sides after the Balfour declaration. If Germany had won they would probably have simply bought the land from the Ottoman Empire, who by this time had ceased to be a religious state and was run by the "Young Turks".
Having said that, it's ironic that Britain and France went to war with Germany twice in order to stop them dominating Europe!
 

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