IDEF-2019 l Updates, News & Discussion

[ziya]

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shortrange air to air missile
medium-long range air to air missile
guided mortar ammo is new to me

 

[cabatli_53]

Will you visit IDEF ? I don't know the exact rules here , but in Europe a friend who is Mod in a military/police forum got accreditation for Police Conference in Berlin in February 2017. He paid 55 Euro for 2 days with high level politicial and security official and learned a much about new secrity trends. Normal Industry vistors paid 900 Euros.

Not me unfortunately but many close friends will be there. Pictures won't be a problem.

 

[Mucahit]

Not me unfortunately but many close friends will be there. Pictures won't be a problem.

Many people from TRMİLİTARY forum will be there

We are gonna see a lot of photos, that's for sure.

 

[Mr.Department]

Many people from TRMİLİTARY forum will be there

We are gonna see a lot of photos, that's for sure.

We should appreciate their effort and give source if they publish their photos only in TRMilitary and allow us to share them.

shortrange air to air missile
medium-long range air to air missile
guided mortar ammo is new to me

Some examples

Sidewinder is so called short range
Amraam is medium range
FMRAAM (Royal Air Force) BVR long range - Meteor is said to have low hit capability from BVR
Guided mortar ammo is e.g. STRIX or XM395 both 120 mm

 

[eagleeye]

Indigenous BVR & WVR will be displayed at IDEF?

It seems so . we will see many new weapon systems on this idef. Inclusive a2a missiles.

 

[Mr.Department]

https://twitter.com/x/status/857553576205352960

What's that ? IDEF 2017 looks like Death Group of Champions League

Togan - Anti Radiation Drone ?
Kargu - Kamikaze Attack Drone ?
Alpagu - Swarming attack Drones ?

@cabatli_53 @Combat-Master
@ziya

 

[gkurt-1979]

c4 defence says :"Russia offer Mig 29" but I prefer su-35.F4s are the end of their life so that twin engine su -35 can be good choice with co-production.

 

[Mr.Department]

Super news

http://en.c4defence.com/Agenda/mig29-offer-by-russia-to-turkey/4293/1

MiG-29 Offer by Russia to Turkey


The recent military and political convergence between Russia and Turkey signaled a new period. The most concrete example of the convergence of the two countries will be exhibited at the International Defense Industry Fair, IDEF'17, according to the information obtained by C4Defence before the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's visit to Russia. The joint Russian display at IDEF’17 attended by Rosoboronexport and JSC “Concern “Almaz Antey” will showcase a total of 240 pieces of military equipment.

"General Manager of Rosoboronexport" Aleksandr Miheyev said: "Turkey is one of Rosoboronexport’s crucial partners. We are in consultations on a number of the most promising defence projects of mutual benefit.”

The developing Turkey-Russia relations will be seen through the exhibited air defence products. These include various products other than the S-400 Triumph, which has long been a subject to negotiations between the two countries. Some of the products to be displayed at the Russian stand will be TOR-M2KM missile defence system, PANTSIR-S1 air defence missile and artillery system and İGLA-S portable anti-aircraft system for the interest of Turkish customers, as well as MiG-29M2 tactical combat aircraft for Turkish Air Force officials.

Rosoboronexport, ARENA-E active protection system for the TSK, armored vehicle protection systems such as dynamic protection systems, KORNET-E anti-tank fuselage and Kalashnikov automatic firearms in various modifications.

Rosoboronexport’s officials believe that the greatest popularity with the Turkish Land Forces will be enjoyed by the armored vehicle protection assets including the Arena-E active protection system, Kornet-E antitank missile system and various Kalashnikov rifles.

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[Mr.Department]

c4 defence says :"Russia offer Mig 29" but I prefer su-35.F4s are the end of their life so that twin engine su -35 can be good choice with co-production.

MIG - 29 last version called MIG-35 is also a 5th gen. fighter with super technology e.g. plasma shields , Laser weapon, Aesa Radar, super cruise, thrust vectoring engines with 1500 hours to next overhaul. Mach 2.25. 3100 km ferry range and capable to carry western weapons.
It is superior to F-35.

 

[monitor]

MIG - 29 last version called MIG-35 is also a 5th gen. fighter with super technology e.g. plasma shields , Laser weapon, Aesa Radar, super cruise, thrust vectoring engines with 1500 hours to next overhaul. Mach 2.25. 3100 km ferry range and capable to carry western weapons.
It is superior to F-35.

Mig-35 is not fifth generation fighter but 4.5++ generation.

 

[era_shield]

If Russia sells the Mig-29/35 they wouldn't really be selling the aircraft, they'd be selling a favour, probably something YPG-related.

 

[Mr.Department]

Mig-35 is not fifth generation fighter but 4.5++ generation.

You are right real 5th gen. is T-50 but I doubt Russia will export it. For 50 Million USD its a bargain. Flying 30 % higher and 2000 nm more range than the F-35 it will be restricted as F-22 is.
But the parameters of MIG-35 are also brilliant for a multirole combat airplane.
We could fill the gap until serial production of TF-X which I believe will be not earlier then 2030.
The Phantoms are realy tired despite many improvements on F-2020 and structural life extension measures.
Did you already ordered ?

 

[TheMightyBender]

Super news

http://en.c4defence.com/Agenda/mig29-offer-by-russia-to-turkey/4293/1

MiG-29 Offer by Russia to Turkey


The recent military and political convergence between Russia and Turkey signaled a new period. The most concrete example of the convergence of the two countries will be exhibited at the International Defense Industry Fair, IDEF'17, according to the information obtained by C4Defence before the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's visit to Russia. The joint Russian display at IDEF’17 attended by Rosoboronexport and JSC “Concern “Almaz Antey” will showcase a total of 240 pieces of military equipment.

"General Manager of Rosoboronexport" Aleksandr Miheyev said: "Turkey is one of Rosoboronexport’s crucial partners. We are in consultations on a number of the most promising defence projects of mutual benefit.”

The developing Turkey-Russia relations will be seen through the exhibited air defence products. These include various products other than the S-400 Triumph, which has long been a subject to negotiations between the two countries. Some of the products to be displayed at the Russian stand will be TOR-M2KM missile defence system, PANTSIR-S1 air defence missile and artillery system and İGLA-S portable anti-aircraft system for the interest of Turkish customers, as well as MiG-29M2 tactical combat aircraft for Turkish Air Force officials.

Rosoboronexport, ARENA-E active protection system for the TSK, armored vehicle protection systems such as dynamic protection systems, KORNET-E anti-tank fuselage and Kalashnikov automatic firearms in various modifications.

Rosoboronexport’s officials believe that the greatest popularity with the Turkish Land Forces will be enjoyed by the armored vehicle protection assets including the Arena-E active protection system, Kornet-E antitank missile system and various Kalashnikov rifles.

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[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/x/status/859676429440647168

 

[AnatolianEagle]

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