Idea: Middle East Union!

[Saho]

Off topic but I've noticed a sudden influx of Iranians and Turks coming to the Middle East section after Hijaz was banned.

 

[bsruzm]

Off topic but I've noticed a sudden influx of Iranians and Turks coming to the Middle East section after Hijaz was banned.

Why not? We are now neighbors.

 

[Dai Toruko]

What do you guys think? Shoot away!

There are few independent states in the world.
The flags dont say who owns the state.
But look at the deep states and you will find more knowledge.
In the end, you will come to the conclusion that the world is a chessboard.

 

[Gothic]

it's a nice idea , after uma it must be catchiest thing ever

 

[One-Above-All]

Today in the ME there 3 factions with 3 regional powers;
Turkish faction:
-Northern Cyprus
-Azerbaijan
-Qatar
Iranian faction:
-Iraq
-Syria
-Lebanon
Saudi faction:
-Jordan
-Yemen
-Bahrain
-UAE

Some corrections on your factions:
-Northern Cyprus: It is a made up state that one one on this world recognizes expect Turkey, It doesn't exist in reality.
-Azerbaijan: They kept out of this ME conflict, I'm sure they'll keep doing it whether Turkey likes it or not.
-Syria: Syria is pretty much two states now, the one that controls by Bashar al asad falls under Iranian faction, But he is a dictator and a murderer. It's unclear how long the status quo is going to last, but sooner or later he's going to be overthrown anyway.
-Yemen: Saudi Arabia is bombing the Sh*t out of Yemen, So i wouldn't put it in the Saudi faction.
-Bahrain: It's a Shia majority country ruled by a sunni dictator so they are pretty much out of the game too.

 

[Glass]

no

 

[Mucahit]

Europe, as it is today, wasn't created in a decade...it took them almost 300-400 years to establish their current system.

They went through a lot:
-Dark ages where Church/religion had absolute power.
-Religious disputes between different Christian sects.
-Crazy monarchs
-Finally, ethnic nationalism & racism (WW1-WW2-Hitler etc...)

Most Muslim countries still are ruled by Monarchs without any kind of democracy, basic human rights don't exist, women are not even considered as humans in some of these countries.

Everything is based on religion which prevents the advent of some technologies, you may think this is bullshit but it's sadly true. For example, l saw a post on a Turkish Facebook page where they shared an Artificial heart made by scientists and the comments were like:

-Why would you waste your time with that, will that bring you in heaven?
-if Allah didn't create it in the first place it's unnecessary for humans to make it.
-Are you trying to break the human body which Allah has created.

The comments are not %100 accurate but you get my point, these comments are coming from Turkish users imagine others

We still have religious wars between different Muslim sects(Shia vs Sunni)...

it will at least take 40-50 years to overcome these problems but at the end, l believe such union is very much possible. Since we are living in the 21st century where technology & knowledge is spreading quickly it won't take us 200 years to reach their status.

 

[Brutas]

One of the mission of 36000 US-UK troops deployed in the region is to prevent such a dream !

May be decades, if not centuries down the line situation arises where the probability of such a hypothetical union may seem a reality, provided it recognizes Israel and becomes pro-west, then it will be Russia's turn to spoil it !

In all reality EU experiment is a failure. Neither Washington, nor Moscow would allow rise of a "third power" led by Franco-German alliance. Brexit is just the beginning. More states would follow !

100,000 yankee troops are still deployed in Europe, 72 years after WW2 and nearly 3 decades after cold was ended. They are there for a reason. World is indeed a chess board!

 

[xenon54 out]

unborn dead child....

good idea but not possible in the middle east.

 

[Muhammed45]

Most countries in that list are not able to decide on their own.

hahhah well said

Which ones?

Saudi faction

 

[Ceylal]

Hi,

I was watching a documentary on the past of Europe before the EU, and it reminded me of the current Middle East. Blood, wars, no sigh of peace and prosperity.

Then I thought.. Why not create a Middle East Union?!

Europe before was just as much divided in to influence goups that seeked their own interests. Then they decided that if they create a union to unite these areas of influence, the big powers would share their influence zones with each other and because all big powers would have all the zones together, that would eliminate regional competition on hostility!

Today in the ME there 3 factions with 3 regional powers;
Turkish faction:
-Northern Cyprus
-Azerbaijan
-Qatar
Iranian faction:
-Iraq
-Syria
-Lebanon
Saudi faction:
-Jordan
-Yemen
-Bahrain
-UAE

Due to economic reasons, it is immensely hard for Saudi Arabia and her faction to join any other faction. They first need to industrialize their economies.

But Iran and Turkey already have somewhat industrialized economies and both have 3 countries in their areas of influence.

A unity between Turkey, Iran, Qatar, Iraq, Syria, Northern Cyprus, Lebanon and Azerbaijan is more than possible!

This possible economic-military union would bring peace and prosperity in the region as sect conflicts between nations would come to a halt due to increased economic and political dependencies of countries on each other due to elimination of tariffs, visa requirements etc.

Then these countries can look for their interests i the world together!


What do you guys think? Shoot away!

You forgot Egypt, Djibouti, Eritrea, Somalia..Yemen...e
and the rotten GCC...and the burr Israel , no takers, no alliances, just ISIS ,the Kurds and the Turcs..

 

[Kiryu]

Sounds good but wont happen.
Bare in mind the EU didn't just happen overnight. It started off as the European Steel and Coal Community. And that itself was an expansion of the International Authority of the Ruhr.
There's an organic growth into the EU. A MEU wouldn't have that, and would be beset with problems from the start if the countries had agreed to creating such a union. Plus, there would be so much effort from the West and Israel to undermine and defeat the project it wont go anywhere.
Instead, I think Turkey and Azerbaijan, being the most cooperative countries, should establish a common market and regulatory bodies to oversee economic activity. That alone is a huge step. If they can succeed then you have the groundwork for a future political Union encompassing the greater area. If it's successful and brings about opportunities for growth then other countries will want to join. Slowly over the next half century more regional countries will adapt to meet the standards of this Union and join the Union. This is the most realistic approach.

 

[SouI]

Saudi faction

I already excluded them if you read the post.

Sounds good but wont happen.
Bare in mind the EU didn't just happen overnight. It started off as the European Steel and Coal Community. And that itself was an expansion of the International Authority of the Ruhr.
There's an organic growth into the EU. A MEU wouldn't have that, and would be beset with problems from the start if the countries had agreed to creating such a union. Plus, there would be so much effort from the West and Israel to undermine and defeat the project it wont go anywhere.
Instead, I think Turkey and Azerbaijan, being the most cooperative countries, should establish a common market and regulatory bodies to oversee economic activity. That alone is a huge step. If they can succeed then you have the groundwork for a future political Union encompassing the greater area. If it's successful and brings about opportunities for growth then other countries will want to join. Slowly over the next half century more regional countries will adapt to meet the standards of this Union and join the Union. This is the most realistic approach.

We can start by just eliminating visas and tariffs and a mutual protection agreement.

The rest may follow by itself.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Unity in middle east is only possible in an alternate reality.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/virtual-history-middle-eastern-union-meu.418023/

 

[Azadkashmir]

so who is going to be the paper printing daddy to fund projects uncle imf rothshchild. what about technology transfer? you know like industrieslist architects sent over to build up power factories, training, blueprints, accounting, material surveying/mining. I still think this is the biggest bull sh it ever becuase it just like iraq back in the day. Muslim today are at their most rotten corrupt behaviour, only to find out that genghis is going to straighten them out and destroy all thier libraries. You think saudis are going to allow real inteligence with critical thinking i dont think so. what about super pakistan with likes of nawaz sharif and corupt generals sorry bro it a good dream, but it never happen becuase those in power will lose all thier strength and the ability to manipulate people.
Plus they do not want to lose thier oversea accounts like swiss banks, maybe that why they like inviting foreign armies over to crush rebelliion.

The most clever deciever i believe is the sultan of brunei quietky in the background making fools out of muslims and sucking o ff imperialist.

The best you are going to get is to move to areas that have no importance to imperialist and live ahumble life of organic lifestyle. atleast when the nuclear flash happens, you will be safe and then you can get ambious about empire building. please do consider minting your own currency and barter trade be happy.