ICJ hearing on Kulbhushan Jadhav case : News, Updates & Discussions

[Mutakalim]

This government and establishment has no guts to hang a Hindu Terrorist. He will be kept in jail and used as a bargaining chip.

 

[Levina]

Everybody, included the mods (especially the mods) knows he is not an indisn. But because of the low quality of this forum, no action will be taken. They will ban me for saying this, but this fake dude pretending to be a ex-sikh officer they will lesve be.

Just ignore and move on.

I am 100% expecting this response, not surprised at all.

Yes flag is wrong but since Khalistani flag is not available hence I have to use my oppressor's flag.

And please call me false flag again if you wish to get banned.

We as a country believe in giving freedom of expression to our ppl.
You Ms @Dhara can pour your heart out.

 

[nair]

Pakistan(army) has invested too much in this guy......

 

[ashok321]

'They shot themselves in the foot:' Pakistan reacts to ICJ order :

 

[Dhara]

Pakistan(army) has invested too much in this guy......

Kindly explain which guy?

If you are pointing finger at me then believe me I would dance with joy but they left us when freedom struggle of Khalistan at peek.
But know they have to help us since they know they did the mistake.

I just called you a false flagger, cos thats what you are. I'm from a family with a long history of serving Indian armed forces and you pretending to have served Indian army is an insult to them sll. Not end of the world to get banned from this pathetic forum.

@Icarus @The Eagle
Kindly grant him his wish.

 

[Spring Onion]

And I am here as a proof of Indian brutality, I served in Indian army but when Sikh started freedom struggle Hindu officers and Jawan starts asking our love for country we forced to prove our Desh-Bakti by killing our own youth but I refuse and as result they court martialled me and sent me in a jail by labelling me pro Khalistani.

And now I am pro Khalistan and Pro Kashmir.

I personally believe Sikhs were always patriotic Indians and they never wanted separation; All they wanted a Province aka State of Punjab within India but Indian government was too paranoid to have a majority Sikh province soon after partition.
Indira Gandhi used Bhindrawale for own political gains and suppress here political opponent and at the end she got him martyred.

What later reached Golden Temple massacre everyone knows that but it is Hindu Indians who do not want to see the facts without bias.

And if these Indians are questioning loyalties of people like you this a shame for them because Sikhs are still loyal to India.

The Hindu majority Indians cannot abuse SIkhs the way they are doing with other minorities because Sikhs are well off community.

 

[Dhara]

I personally believe Sikhs were always patriotic Indians and they never wanted separation; All they wanted a Province aka State of Punjab within India but Indian government was too paranoid to have a majority Sikh province soon after partition.
Indira Gandhi used Bhindrawale for own political gains and suppress here political opponent and at the end she got him martyred.

What later reached Golden Temple massacre everyone knows that but it is Hindu Indians who do not want to see the facts without bias.

And if these Indians are questioning loyalties of people like you this a shame for them because Sikhs are still loyal to India.

The Hindu majority Indians cannot abuse SIkhs the way they are doing with other minorities because Sikhs are well off community.

Sir you are totally wrong at some points but I am agreed on rest.

First since Independence movement majority Sikh want separation from Indian on the very basis of two nation theory but like Molana Azad our leader at that time doesn't care about this and as a result we faced destruction and massacre in Golden temple.

Yes Sardar Bindranwal was promoted by Mrs. Gandhi but he was not a stooge when he realizes her cunning falsehood he started armed struggle.

Since thread topic is not about me or Khalistan, Kindly stay on topic.

 

[Spring Onion]

Kulbhushan Jadhav case: Reversal of sentence not a foregone conclusion, says expert
Sachin Parashar| TNN | Updated: May 18, 2017, 09.57 PM IST


NEW DELHI: While India has got the provisional measures it had sought from ICJ when it initiated proceedings against Pakistan in Kulbhushan Jadhav case on May 8, a much tougher test lies ahead at the international Court which will now consider the issues involved in greater details.

As per the procedures involved, ICJ President Ronny Abraham is now expected to meet representatives of both nations to prepare a timeline for filing of written submissions to take the case forward. Pakistan is likely to challenge ICJ's jurisdiction and, in that case, the court may want to settle this issue first before going ahead with India's petition.

India's final objective is that ICJ set aside Jadhav's conviction and order his release. According to international lawyer and former law clerk at ICJ Shashank Kumar, who had predicted that ICJ was not going to be influenced by Pakistan's arguments about jurisdiction and lack of urgency in the matter, it is far from clear whether or not the Court can grant such a request by India. The ICJ, which has acknowledged Pakistan's violation of VCCR, may simply ask Islamabad to review and reconsider possibly through a domestic process the Jadhav case.

"In past cases concerning denial of consular access, the Court has usually ordered the respondent country to undertake a 'review and reconsideration' of the sentence and conviction by means of its choosing, eg., through the domestic judicial process, taking into account the violation of the rights under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations," said Kumar.

"Leaving aside the fact that all the previous cases involved the United States as the respondent, were the Court to award similar relief in this case, Pakistan could simply undertake such review and reconsideration under its domestic legal system," he added.

There is of course no guarantee that such review by Pakistan would lead to Jadhav's release, as desired by India.

According to Kumar, at this stage, it would probably be in India's interest to stretch the ICJ case as long as possible, as this would at least ensure that in keeping with today's order, Jadhav is not executed by Pakistan while the case is pending before the ICJ.

why exhaust yourself . Just let Jadehv go through the process in Pakistan where his last hope will be presidential Mercy Appeal and Trust me such appeals keep staying the table of the president for years and years and years and the execution gets delaying

 

[fenku]

why exhaust yourself . Just let Jadehv go through the process in Pakistan where his last hope will be presidential Mercy Appeal and Trust me such appeals keep staying the table of the president for years and years and years and the execution gets delaying

Same India is saying.....

 

[utraash]

Pakistan laws & justice system stood to its reputations one more time, extension of its complicit narrative on green terror.
ICJ decision vindicated the sham trial run by military court of Pakistan in the name of complying due judicial process while quenching Pakistani thirst of Indian blood behind the curtain.
I still feel KY would have been killed & this entire fiasco has been created to cover that cold blooded murder.

 

[Peshwa]

Jadhav is as good as dead, india is well
aware of this.

The Goal here is never going to be to get Jadhav back, it will be to bust Pakistani case on Jadhav publicly or to corner them in a situation that sets a precedence for India to use the same tactics elsewhere.

But by bringing the case to ICJ, the Modi govt has shown that it cares for its citizens and armed forces and is willing to fight for them. Even though they know the outcome is not going to save KJ. He is a casualty of This india Pak battle, but I'm sure KJ knew the possible outcomes before willing to serve his country.

KJ is doing his duty and has our respect as a nation!

 

[oOo]

Can some learned pakistan help me know two things-
1- Who were defence lawyer for KBY?
2- Which specific terror attacks are attributed to KBY?

@Spring Onion It seems you are a journo, you must know.

 

[Miripiri]

Pakistan laws & justice system stood to its reputations one more time, extension of its complicit narrative on green terror.
ICJ decision vindicated the sham trial run by military court of Pakistan in the name of complying due judicial process while quenching Pakistani thirst of Indian blood behind the curtain.
I still feel KY would have been killed & this entire fiasco has been created to cover that cold blooded murder.

What most Pakistanis here fail to comprehend is that Indian government would never take this case to ICJ and freaking internationalize the case if the guy really was a Raw agent.

Pakistanis here keep saying indians are sneaky, cunning, Chanakya-like creatures. Ask yourself then, would Indians be this stupid if the story your army tells you is really true? Would Indians risk exposing their agent in ICJ? Come on Pakistanis, do you really think the baniyas are that stupid???

Either this guy is not an agent, or he is, but Pakistan have no proof of it. India is certain of one or the other.

 

[A.Muqeet khan]

 

[jetray]

@Spring Onion It seems you are a journo, you must know.

journo ? some one who is so partisan and communal cannot be a journalist.

Last time we crossed the border it wasnt a pleasant sight on the other side. When will you guys stop shooting yourself in the foot?
I mean you guys rejected consular access to the person concerned despite being a signatory at Vienna convention. When a country hands over a death sentence to a person without backing it by evidence, tries everything in its power to pass the death sentence as quickly as possible despite being warned by ICJ, then the country is probably inching closer to being a lawless state. More than anything its your own people who should be worried about the way your courts function.

Here is the funny part, how these ppl selectively interpret laws.

http://www.news18.com/news/world/tw...kistan-invokes-vienna-convention-1405625.html

There is serious issue where one organization thinks they are supreme and can do whatever they want overriding all the civilized norms.