ICJ hearing on Kulbhushan Jadhav case : News, Updates & Discussions

[Srinivas]

ICJ can't sit on judgement adjudicated by a competent court constituted under the constitution of Pakistan, Yadav was sentenced to death under domestic laws and ICJ is no entity to look into the matters decided under domestic laws. Suspension of the sentence is totally out of question, for neither ICJ has jurisdiction nor Yadav has availed appeal available to him. Urgency pleaded by India holds no ground.

ICJ can because Pakistan is a Vienna convention signatory !

 

[Logicaldude]

Now that the matter is in court, let's wait for the decision. The decision will favour one party, we will find out soon.

But what this WILL establish is that we will fight for rights of our people. That we think Jadhav was given a secret trial and we reject the allegations he is being made to say under duress and such precedents will make sure no one wins (Pakistan does not seem to care).

As to the baser instincts of our people, we always have Habib I mean we don't

 

[Spring Onion]

Mental gymnastics at best.

ICJ has no jurisdiction nor can it supercede Pak courts!


Convention doesnt apply to spies or terrorists!
And UN or ICJs decisions are not binding !

So what India is seeking under Vienna Convention???

Obviously the convention does not argue for sparing life of Jadhev

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

So what India is seeking under Vienna Convention???

Obviously the convention does not argue for sparing life of Jadhev

They are denying that kulbhushan was a spy. Hence Vienna convention is applicable to him.

All would depend on Paks proof against him and strong statements by our lawyer.
To prove that he is in fact a spy.

 

[xyxmt]

Chances of Pakistan putting him on the stool were 50/50 before India started this charade, now its 100% only to humiliate India

 

[Spring Onion]

Now that the matter is in court, let's wait for the decision. The decision will favour one party, we will find out soon.

But what this WILL establish is that we will fight for rights of our people. That we think Jadhav was given a secret trial and we reject the allegations he is being made to say under duress and such precedents will make sure no one wins (Pakistan does not seem to care).

As to the baser instincts of our people, we always have Habib I mean we don't

You are not fighting for rights of your people. You are fighting for your bruised ego and cover up your Indian state terrorism against Pakistan.

If you were fighting for your people's rights then where is your indian government when your ordinary citizens are languishing in Pakistani jails. One is in Peshawar jail. Go figure.


As far as Habib e already exposed your game plan now do whatever you want to do with him.

The onus is not on Pakistan

 

[Rafael]

They are denying that kulbhushan was a spy. Hence Vienna convention is applicable to him.

What do you make of this trial?

 

[cerberus]

Mental gymnastics at best.

ICJ has no jurisdiction nor can it supercede Pak courts!


Convention doesnt apply to spies or terrorists!
And UN or ICJs decisions are not binding !

Well Why Is Pakistan Making to compel case in ICJ in first Place they should Rather neglected its hearing

And Secondly Why Dr. Maleeha Lodhi Submitted a letter in ICJ in 29 march Even before the Sentenced is announced on 10th may 2017

As For him being SPY is Not Accepted by India Second party India From day one Sited he is Indian national Abducted from Iran and cited the consular access

So India a Legal Party in ICJ

Secondly You are Factually wrong "Vienna convention is Not requires Reason to be given " page 1089

read
http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1198&context=mjil
http://www.iapss.org/wp/2015/02/16/...nage-carried-out-through-diplomatic-missions/

 

[Emmie]

ICJ can because Pakistan is a Vienna convention signatory !

ICJ can't, I repeat it can't. Have you read the Indian application and Pakistan's declaration for recognizing ICJ jurisdiction? The sole argument is denial of consular access under Vienna convention, the application is about consular access and not about the trial, please understand the difference here. Optional protocols of Vienna convention don't apply to spys, give a read to the text and customary international laws article 16 (I guess).

Nothing to going to change even if Yadav gets consular access, if you think he'll be re-tried you're gravely mistaken. India will have to contend all these woes before an appellant authority in Pakistan, SC to be exact.

 

[Spring Onion]

They are denying that kulbhushan was a spy. Hence Vienna convention is applicable to him.

All would depend on Paks proof against him and strong statements by our lawyer.
To prove that he is in fact a spy.

NO they cannot. Rather India is clinging to counsular excess point.

Which could be argued by Pakistan as well

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

What do you make of this trial?

I don't think it's decisions are binding on Pak.

Even if hypothetically speaking rules in favour of India. Pak can go ahead with the sentence as ICJs decision has no legal binding authority on our courts!

Although it seems India is trying its best to deny him being a spy, hence applicable for Vienna convention and that proper protocols weren't followed in this case!

The rest depends on Paks legal team!

NO they cannot. Rather India is clinging to counsular excess point.

Which could be argued by Pakistan as well

That's the point!

 

[nair]

As if ICJ is an authority to decide competency of the court? Whether India accepts or not, the court awarded Yadav death sentence is a competent court.

Forget I am an Indian.. .. but any info about this court or its proceeding of this case is available outside?

 

[Emmie]

Well Why Is Pakistan Making to compel case in ICJ in first Place they should Rather neglected its hearing

And Secondly Why Dr. Maleeha Lodhi Submitted a letter in ICJ in 29 march Even before the Sentenced is announced on 10th may 2017

As For him being SPY is Not Accepted by India Second party India From day one Sited he is Indian national Abducted from Iran and cited the consular access

So India a Legal Party in ICJ

Secondly You are Factually wrong "Vienna convention is Not requires Reason to be given " page 1089

read
http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1198&context=mjil

And what does Pakistan's declaration has to do with this case? Are you saying Pakistan through crystal ball foresaw Indian application coming in May?

 

[Rafael]

Well.. whatever soothes your bruised ego... Pakistan Establishment wanted to give Kaum a Jhunjhuna to keep them off major corruption happening across all institutions and the current situation Pakistani economy is in right now... In short Pakistani leadership decided to leverage an international situation for political gains inside the country... Yen nayi truck ki batti hai... Pakistani Kaum 1 saal se busy hai...

An Indian would know well about truck ki battis. You lot have been chasing it ever since your new Messiah aka 56" boobs has been elected.

 

[ashok321]