IAF to focus on bombs & air-to-air missiles for edge over Pakistan

[SIPRA]

Why an Indian Airforce Mi 17 helicopter was flying in a most deadly air warfare zone with 7 crew members at that specific time? What were they doing ? What were they trying to locate ?

Crew members were 6. One civilian Kashmiri was killed, who came, unfortunately, under the crashing helicopter.

The helicopter was transporting Kashmiri apples.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Soldiers Martyred in the line of duty are called Shaheeds here. They sacrifice brings honour to their families back home. People respect them as family of Shaheed.
Its impossible for Armed forces to hide their dead men. We are not living in 1980. By accusing ISPR of hiding dead pilots, you are implying that F16 went down. And you have no proof to back your claim. This F16 thing has been discussed to death here. Bring solid proof or stop it.
Local People always reach before security forces at the site of downed plane. Everyone has smartphone. First thing they do is shot videos and pics which are immediately uploaded to social media. Abhi was greeted by locals first not Pak Army.

They are accusing us but what about the 6 crew(2 heli pilots+4 more pilots) who died. Moreover after one week 2 more pilots died in a car crash in J&K.

 

[Rahil khan]

They were flying to Kupwara on a daily supply mission.

So at a time when two dozen PAF jets appeared on Indian radars, IAF base commander authorized Mi 17's mission to supply something inevitable like aircraft ammunition or maybe some office stationery items, or may be some search and rescue mission of an aircraft disappeared from radar along with all communications? Who knows? And at the end of the day Indians claimed that the chopper crashed to some "Technical failures", deliberately trying to hide real reason why such vulnerable chopper was flying in a war zone and how "technical failures" can rip apart it's huge volume into many pieces on ground. Your statement makes only one sense...Desperate claims to reduce the volume of embarrassment IAF faced exactly one year ago.

 

[Suriya]

Which moron sent Mig-21s to face F-16s and JF-17s armed with AIM-120C5 and SD-10A BVRAAMs?

Whoever sent those Mig21 was proven right.

Mig-21s were at Srinagar base took the least time to reach the near LoC where PAF was flying.

3 out of 4 Mig-21s came out unhurt and maintained the air superiority over Indian air space.

PS: Remember when IAF sent migs as immediate response they didn't know the air battle( air patherBaji) will last only 30 minutes. And everybody will go back to usual normal.

 

[Rahil khan]

Crew members were 6. One civilian Kashmiri was killed, who came, unfortunately, under the crashing helicopter.

The helicopter was transporting Kashmiri apples.

Makes no sense at all. They are still desperately trying to reduce the size of humiliation every where...That's all.

 

[s@@d]

The full sentence from Modi was "If Rafale was thr, the Result will be much better" pointing to the past UPA govts which didnt focused on military procurement.
Pakistani on other hand is taking this as some kind of win lol.

This means instead of Mig-21 countering F-16 and Mig-21 loss would not b thr... Rafale would be thr if past UPA govt did their job for military modernization to a media audience for his 2019 election.

Su-30 MKI has better:
Radar
ECM
Strike Package
Maneuverability

than F-16 BLK 52

and is on par for BVR missiles
R-77 is near peer of Aim-120C5 ...

only 2 Su-30MKI were countering dozen of so PAF fighters when F-16 panicked and fired
and basically wasted thr BVR load of Aim-120C firing from DMAX ranges.

well in this case it show if IAF had Rafael the result would have been same.
because you had Su30s but IAF failed to plan against PAF.
if in time of war you are not able to put your best available to fight then what is the purpose of having such expansive toys.
there is a saying in pakistan (specially pashto)ill translate ..
Jo Muka larai k bad yad aye to apny moun par mar dena chahye...

 

[Suriya]

Bombs and air-to-air missiles, the air-to-air missiles need good competent, trained pilots and seems as though IAF has short supply of them...Abhi none done will tell this.

Probably you don't know about ex-paf chief Parvaiz Qureshi Mehdi who was captured as PoW in 71 war in similar circumstance as Abhinondone.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Probably you don't know about ex-paf chief Parvaiz Qureshi Mehdi who was captured as PoW in 71 war in similar circumstance as Abhinondone.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1230033458891759616

 

[Tumba]

well in this case it show if IAF had Rafael the result would have been same.
because you had Su30s but IAF failed to plan against PAF.
if in time of war you are not able to put your best available to fight then what is the purpose of having such expansive toys.
there is a saying in pakistan (specially pashto)ill translate ..
Jo Muka larai k bad yad aye to apny moun par mar dena chahye...

again Modi is no IAF commander this was purely a political statement aimed at opposition during election season.
And 27 Feb was not a war... a mere skirmish ... IAF does not have ability to provide 24X7 numerical superior cover against PAF in all the sector it faces .. Su-30 MKI are not nuke fueled ...
I wonder even if USAF can provide 24X7 fighter coverage on all its contested sectors.

Again IAF has done India proud on 26 Feb and achieved her mission.
27 Feb was expected and Modi Govt. did not escalate further as mission was achieved.

 

[Suriya]

Why an Indian Airforce Mi 17 helicopter was flying in a most deadly air warfare zone with 7 crew members at that specific time? What were they doing ? What were they trying to locate ?

Crew members were 6. One civilian Kashmiri was killed, who came, unfortunately, under the crashing helicopter.
Mi-17 was coming back to the SriNagar airbase after the doing routine ops.
The helicopter was transporting Kashmiri apples.

Mi-17 was coming back to the SriNagar airbase after the doing routine ops.

Before 10'o clock of the day, 'it wasn't most deadly air warfare', even civilian commercial aircrafts were plying from Srinagar to their usual destinations at that time.

 

[SIPRA]

Makes no sense at all. They are still desperately trying to reduce the size of humiliation every where...That's all.

Yes. What else is the choice for them?

 

[s@@d]

again Modi is no IAF commander this was purely a political statement aimed at opposition during election season.
And 27 Feb was not a war... a mere skirmish ... IAF does not have ability to provide 24X7 numerical superior cover against PAF in all the sector it faces .. Su-30 MKI are not nuke fueled ...
I wonder even if USAF can provide 24X7 fighter coverage on all its contested sectors.

Again IAF has done India proud on 26 Feb and achieved her mission.
27 Feb was expected and Modi Govt. did not escalate further as mission was achieved.

ok Modi is not IAF chief.. agreed. ...
but what about this statement of your Air chief

""Rafale Jets Not Enough for Force's Needs; Indigenous Weapons to be Game Changer: IAF Chief
Stressing on the need to develop indigenous weapons, Air Chief RKS Bhadauria said it would be a 'game changer' if in the next air skirmish, the weapons and missiles used by the Air Force are indigenously built.::

now even after Rafael We cant expect IAF to counter PAF. so it says it all that on 26and 27 IAF failed miserably.

 

[Tumba]

ok Modi is not IAF chief.. agreed. ...
but what about this statement of your Air chief

""Rafale Jets Not Enough for Force's Needs; Indigenous Weapons to be Game Changer: IAF Chief
Stressing on the need to develop indigenous weapons, Air Chief RKS Bhadauria said it would be a 'game changer' if in the next air skirmish, the weapons and missiles used by the Air Force are indigenously built.::

What is wrong with the statement do you think 36 Rafale are enough for a landmass like India... they might offer edge for small skirmishes but if India is facing numerical odds from China ... IAF can not buy 300 Rafale.. India has to produce Tejas Mk1/2/3 etc. in future.

 

[UKBengali]

Whoever sent those Mig21 was proven right.

Mig-21s were at Srinagar base took the least time to reach the near LoC where PAF was flying.

3 out of 4 Mig-21s came out unhurt and maintained the air superiority over Indian air space.

PS: Remember when IAF sent migs as immediate response they didn't know the air battle( air patherBaji) will last only 30 minutes. And everybody will go back to usual normal.

This is so dumb to have Mig-21s to face a Pakistan.

India had in 2019:

50 Mirage 2000
60 Mig-29
270 SU-30MKI

Why even base Mig-21s near Pakistan that has 70 F-16s and 100 JF-17s?