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SOURCE: ENS

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This could be termed as a setback to Make in India initiative, as the Indian Air force has said ‘no’ to the India-United Kingdom jointly developed upgraded advanced Hawk trainer jets.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in collaboration with BAE systems of United Kingdom jointly developed a combat-ready aircraft, which will be launched in the upcoming 11th edition of Aero India to be held in Bengaluru from February 14.

Though the advanced dual version of the Hawk trainer jet will make its debut in next week’s air show, but sources in the Indian Airforce claimed that the force has shown no interest in the combat variant of the aircraft.

“So far, we have no intentions to place any order for the upgraded version of Hawk trainers,” said a senior IAF officer. IAF operates around 123 Hawk Mk.132 jets that provide Stage-III training before pilots progress to operational fighters like the Mirage 2000, Su-30MKI, MiG-29 or Jaguar. India air force and Indian navy are flying Hawk Mk 132 variant for training with over 100,000 flying hours.

Besides its main customer i.e IAF, even Navy has also not worked out any plan to place an order for the upgraded combat ready variant of Hawk.

Left with no order, it may be manufactured for export to neighbouring countries, according to a HAL source.

The Advanced Hawk has been in the works for two years under a unique model with Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) and BAE, as both entities signed a Memorandum of Understand in 2015 during the same Aero India show.

Sources said that the advanced Hawk will reduce training demands on more expensive frontline aircraft, creating additional capacity for operational tasks. Hawk jet with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, rockets and bombs to transform it into a combat platform. Sources in HAL and BAE Systems revealed that advanced training has several latest features to give the aircraft additional agility, extra power and the ability to carry a range of conventional and precision weapons for an operational role.

Stephen Timms, ? Managing Director – Defence Information, Training & Services said “The Advanced Hawk is a testimonial of our commitment to sharing technology, capability and knowledge to build advanced systems in India, for India, and from India. Together with HAL, we are looking forward to show this industry-funded demonstrator to the Indian and other Air Forces and seeking their feedback on the combination of features that will better prepare student combat pilots for the demands of frontline aircraft. ”


http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...no-to-advanced-hawk-trainer-jets-1567637.html
 
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When pushed an IAF spokesman stated "we would like something that works"
 
This is pathetic reporting, why would IAF wants combat hawk it is meant for export.

IAF is indicting non combat version as trainer.
 
Firstly,

Senior IAF officer <> IAF ( Just Like an "Anonymous PA Officer" <> ISPR ) . Period
And.. Indian Express ? Case Closed.

Proof : From the IAF Chief Himself :

Secondly,

India is likely to increase its Hawk advanced jet trainer inventory by adding 32 more, after reports emerged of a possible order worth Rs 3,500 crore. The trainer is needed to meet the requirements of both Indian Air Force (IAF) and Indian Navy combat pilots.

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/india-orde...omises-induction-htt-40-basic-trainers-692950

What Pakistanis fail to realize is the Tremendous "Lobbying" which exists in India due to High Defence Budget ( Purchase Possibility )
 
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Wow in one day IAF has evaluated the product and reached the conclusion that the product been rejected by IAF ......... and people say Indian are late in decisions :D :D or the news paper has a hidden agenda to throw mud on Made in India initiative , unknown spokes man of IAF says a lot
 
When pushed an IAF spokesman stated "we would like something that works"
NOT IAF Spokesman ... an IAF Source!

LOL.... i always love sources ... they can tell whatever BS they want ! and NOT the Official STAND of the IAF

NOTE : It is still a prototype and NOT built for the IAF - just a briefing been made to them and NOT officially offered.
 
NOT IAF Spokesman ... an IAF Source!

LOL.... i always love sources ... they can tell whatever BS they want ! and NOT the Official STAND of the IAF

NOTE : It is still a prototype and NOT built for the IAF - just a briefing been made to them and NOT officially offered.

Lets face reality!
however much we malign the indian military they can see a a lemon when they see one

they had a look, saw the poor product and gave a straight NO!

Next you will tell us the Arjun, Rustom, Insas and LCA were all just prototypes and not really offered to the indian military
 
Lets face reality!
however much we malign the indian military they can see a a lemon when they see one

they had a look, saw the poor product and gave a straight NO!

Next you will tell us the Arjun, Rustom, Insas and LCA were all just prototypes and not really offered to the indian military
Wow ... Changing the Narrative to support you own BS !!! :cuckoo::sarcastic:
 
Wow ... Changing the Narrative to support you own BS !!! :cuckoo::sarcastic:

OK lets go back to your narrative

Arjun, Insas, Rustom, LCA are superb products and the only reason indian military have rejected them is because of kick backs and love of foreign maal:disagree:
 
Lets face reality!
however much we malign the indian military they can see a a lemon when they see one

they had a look, saw the poor product and gave a straight NO!

Next you will tell us the Arjun, Rustom, Insas and LCA were all just prototypes and not really offered to the indian military

It takes YEARS , to Evaluate, Test , Negotiate and Sign a Deal ; Atleast in India. We are not really fast in this department due to the 'curse' of of having 'multiple options' to buy the same stuff !
 
Next you will tell us the Arjun, Rustom, Insas and LCA were all just prototypes and not really offered to the indian military

Dial down the stupidity will you.

Arjun has limited deployment.

LCA has limited deployment.

India can afford to do such shit. So hold on before making blanket statements.
 
SOURCE: ENS

Hawk_Jet_Trainer-EPS.jpg


This could be termed as a setback to Make in India initiative, as the Indian Air force has said ‘no’ to the India-United Kingdom jointly developed upgraded advanced Hawk trainer jets.

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in collaboration with BAE systems of United Kingdom jointly developed a combat-ready aircraft, which will be launched in the upcoming 11th edition of Aero India to be held in Bengaluru from February 14.

Though the advanced dual version of the Hawk trainer jet will make its debut in next week’s air show, but sources in the Indian Airforce claimed that the force has shown no interest in the combat variant of the aircraft.

“So far, we have no intentions to place any order for the upgraded version of Hawk trainers,” said a senior IAF officer. IAF operates around 123 Hawk Mk.132 jets that provide Stage-III training before pilots progress to operational fighters like the Mirage 2000, Su-30MKI, MiG-29 or Jaguar. India air force and Indian navy are flying Hawk Mk 132 variant for training with over 100,000 flying hours.

Besides its main customer i.e IAF, even Navy has also not worked out any plan to place an order for the upgraded combat ready variant of Hawk.

Left with no order, it may be manufactured for export to neighbouring countries, according to a HAL source.

The Advanced Hawk has been in the works for two years under a unique model with Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) and BAE, as both entities signed a Memorandum of Understand in 2015 during the same Aero India show.

Sources said that the advanced Hawk will reduce training demands on more expensive frontline aircraft, creating additional capacity for operational tasks. Hawk jet with air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles, rockets and bombs to transform it into a combat platform. Sources in HAL and BAE Systems revealed that advanced training has several latest features to give the aircraft additional agility, extra power and the ability to carry a range of conventional and precision weapons for an operational role.

Stephen Timms, ? Managing Director – Defence Information, Training & Services said “The Advanced Hawk is a testimonial of our commitment to sharing technology, capability and knowledge to build advanced systems in India, for India, and from India. Together with HAL, we are looking forward to show this industry-funded demonstrator to the Indian and other Air Forces and seeking their feedback on the combination of features that will better prepare student combat pilots for the demands of frontline aircraft. ”


http://www.newindianexpress.com/nat...no-to-advanced-hawk-trainer-jets-1567637.html
@waz is this guy a bot?
 

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