IAF R-73/R-77 AAMs recovered from Mig-21 wreckage l Abhinandan did not fire any missile

[NA71]

is willing to line up all of it's F-16s before international military observers ??
When did that happen ?

There was no Su30 loss . Period .

It was only ballsy Abhinanan shot down over pakistani airspace either by F16 BVR or SAM .

you even don't want to name JF-17? so jealous huhhhh. Bro Bison was Thunder's kill.

 

[Amaa'n]

Hd video of the wreckage .

The bullets can be seen. So there was no wvr dogfight , or he had emptied his machine gun.
Other than that plenty of missile parts can be seen
The right wing got extensive damage or may be fell at a distance so the other two missiles may have burnt or fell off with the other wing .
The left wing was where these two missiles must be hanging ..

this is great.....

@Horus

 

[Vännen]

Good point . The side of the missile hit the plane as it took evasive action

BC it's not a bollywood film that a heat seeking missile will touch and go. Ask Abhinandan how Pakistani missile hit MiG21 on it's "Tohh".

 

[Mav3rick]

Yea, you can't even take down a Balloon without firing a half a million missile on it.
If you jokers think that your pilot had shot down an F-16, we would have returned him in new packaging, get over it and ask your air-force to come clean.

The only thing that makes me somewhat believe that no F-16 was shot down is the fact that IAF ceased all activity the moment 2 of her Jets were downed. Had they actually managed to down an F-16, these Hyenas would have smelt blood and would have come in for the kill. However, in reality, they ran away licking their wounds which is the only reason I can come up with for IAF's and IM's inability to escalate the engagement or to raise up the ante.

 

[HRK]

two things to consider here, if Mig was carrying ECM pod on one hard point, EFT on second, that leaves two more hard points for AAMs.
It is established that Mig21 bison was a WVR hit, so ECM had no chance to dodge that. while with SU30 MKI, the AMRAAM will home in on the EMC pod? so it hit the wing not the tail pipe?

One thing which many people might not be considering is that before to enter into dogfight fighters jets drop their unnecessary payload like external fuel tanks to reduce the weight and to increase the manoeuvrability, but the presence of external fuel tank with wreckage of MiG-21 at crash site indicates that it was targeted before the initiation of dogfight which lead to the possibility that the shooter was present at the extended range or simply mean it was BVR shot, this POV further get strength by the statement of Abhinandan that he was looking/searching for the target at the time when he get shot down

 

[The Eagle]

Since the Indians started to make the claim, I just knew it there must be lot in the hatch to rub Indian's noses in the dirt. In today's day and age, why are they so stupid!! The Indian nation supposedly good in Information technology. Don't they understand that everything get recorded!! Why such stupid behavior!!
As one Indian put it, the point they wanted to make is that Pakistan used F 16 and just wouldn't admit that JF 17 were used too.
Their ploy of use of F16 busted. JF 17 they don't want to mention, because they don't want to admit that Pakistan with China has produce an aircraft, which has put Su 30 to shame.

There is difference from Indian side that what kind of facts are coming out. Actually, the informed people (officials) are quiet and does not tell any truth. Why? might wanna avoid public backlash & the destruction of fake empire/bravado. They let it to the second tier that is Public which will only deny the fact & will try to divert attention from real issue being to emotional & nationalist. However, non one from Indian side yet made it clear that what was Abhinandan's payload? How did he take down F-16? Rather than acknowledging the wreckage which is available through different footage; being habitual to lie, IAF resorted to remain silent because nationalist will do the PR campaign for damage control.

 

[Amaa'n]

One thing which many people might not be considering is that before to enter into dogfight fighters jets drop their unnecessary payload like external fuel tanks to reduce the weight and to increase the manoeuvrability, but the presence of external fuel tank with wreckage of MiG-21 at crash site indicates that it was targeted before the initiation of dogfight which lead to the possibility that the shooter was present at the extended range or simply mean it was BVR shot, this POV further get strength by the statement of Abhinandan that he was looking/searching for the target at the time when he get shot down

this was my assessment that I shared earlier on twitter
Mig 21 bison loadout:

* 1 x R 77
* 1 x R 73
* 1 x ECM ELTA 8222
* 2 x EFT (one on wing & one on belly)

during initial take off he was to drop the center point EFT, one 1 x eft was leftout for dog fight....he was shot with WVR .....

 

[NA71]

Slight off top....ARY NEWS breaking news tht PAF just carried out Road Run OPS including refueling and taking off. Military officials witnessed the activities.

 

[HRK]

The right wing got extensive damage or may be fell at a distance so the other two missiles may have burnt or fell off with the other wing .

second wing is actually present at the crash site in upside down position you can clearly see the remains of weapon pylon and landing gears

 

[PakSword]

You were too careful there , not to cause any damage on the ground , are not you ??

That's why I am saying, we dropped where we wanted to drop.. that's responsible isn't it?

 

[Suriya]

One thing which many people might not be considering is that before to enter into dogfight fighters jets drop their unnecessary payload like external fuel tanks to reduce the weight and to increase the manoeuvrability, but the presence of external fuel tank with wreckage of MiG-21 at crash site indicates that it was targeted before the initiation of dogfight which lead to the possibility that the shooter was present at the extended range or simply mean it was BVR shot, this POV further get strength by the statement of Abhinandan that he was looking/searching for the target at the time when he get shot down

Indian Mig 21 was shot down by F16's BVR , while he chasing the retreating F7 and Jf17s into Pakistan airspace

 

[Amaa'n]

there was a post here with screengrabs from the video showing all missiles. can anyone tag me for that post...kinda mixed up with two threads merged ...@eagle ?

 

[Oruc]

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there was a post here with screengrabs from the video showing all missiles. can anyone tag me for that post...kinda mixed up with two threads merged ...@eagle ?

I have pics.

 

[Suriya]

OK, I have a suggestion for the Indians. You see Pakistanis showed the trees damaged and hole in the ground from the bomb fired by IAF. Why don't you guys show the bomb blast craters on the Indian site, for us to judge what damages were caused by PAF broad day strikes!!!

ISPR itself had clarified they had no intention to cause any damage rather show their capability . Check his 27th feb press briefing .
Anyone who claims otherwise or other claim such as Army chief was present when a bomb fell near Rajuri HQ is horse shit .

 

[HRK]

@HRK @Tps43 the serial numbers (I think) are very much visible ....... can't these help in tracing these missiles?

tried .... but no result found ...