IAF Ouragan Captured by PAF

[x_man]

Only few familiar faces …Sir Murad K , can you please provide the names for each person in this picture ..

 

[chindit]

PQ Medhi EX COAS is the last person who fought both wars after that no COAS or VCOAS has been from that era. They all graduated in or after 1974.
Afghan heroes came .

what about mushaf mir? he certainly was a 71 war pilot

 

[chindit]

The KalaiKunda strike Led by Shabbir H Syed earned him and Tariq Habib each a SJ.The Squadron was given nickname Tail Choppers after the same mission.In KalaiKunda strike they destroyed 10 Canberra,Damaged 5 Canberra and 2 Hunters too.

In Bagdogra Strike(65) 14 Squadron destroyed 4 aircraft,damaged ATC building and hangar.

The Indian version

kalaikunda - 4 Canberras, 4 Vampires (still a very commendable total)
Bagdogra - 1 Vampire, 1 C-119 packet
barrackpore - 2 transport aircraft.

 

[Muradk]

Sir its really a million dollar book,unfortunately its not given to all PAF officers...may be Service Book club has adequate funds....the book has everything related to Tail choppers.

I came across it last year in a friend's home....since then iam anxious to grab it...


Sir any idea 1965 and 83 the Grow Mustache Competion is narrated in the book?Sir Shabbir Syed Won the 1965 Grow Mustache Competion...but who was the winner in 1983 competiition?

I won the 1968 one, I can show my mustaches only but not the face
1983 I was in USA doing Air Command and Staff College but I know this the contenders were Javaid Latif, Musaf Mir( GBHS). I think Javaid won because after that there was a scoop on him the very next day he shaved his mustaches and every one said why did you do that and javaid said Yar my wife doesn't kiss me any more

 

[Muradk]

I have searched the book on amazon and some other book seller sites but I dont find it. Perhaps its not on the open market. It would be nice if it can be scanned and brought into an electronic format (e-book).

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Let me seel what can be done

 

[shehbazi2001]

Here is a picture of no.14 Sqn at Dacca 1965...the man with Big Mustaches in the center is the OC and Winner of grow Mustache Competition 1965...it was under his command that 14Sqn won the coveted Perry-Keene trophy in March 1964.He later became VCOAS.



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In the picture, I dont see the name plates on uniforms?

 

[Muradk]

Najam the photo
Standing left to Right.
Late Shauqat from BAF Crashed in Turkey, Andrabi, Salim Ghaur, Unknown, Imtiaz Ail.
Sitting L-to R
FF Khan, Hatimi , Shabir, unknown, Jeddah.

Hatimi's 2 brother both heros this is the elder one.
One was knows and mad Hat the other Sad Hat. It was Sad who flew the Gnat.
In those days we didn't have name tags only on Coverall and that was optional.

 

[Najam Khan]

One was knows and mad Hat the other Sad Hat. It was Sad who flew the Gnat.
In those days we didn't have name tags only on Coverall and that was optional.

Sir, I remember on a Alam's photo description it was written 'Peanut'MM ALAM ,similarly an article by Air Cdre rtd 'Bill' Latif...I wanted to know if these nicks were used only in that era or today some of our pilots use them as well?

+ Can u please write some detail about Khatak ali kuli's kills inside Afghanistan....if possible!

 

[Muradk]

Sir, I remember on a Alam's photo description it was written 'Peanut'MM ALAM ,similarly an article by Air Cdre rtd 'Bill' Latif...I wanted to know if these nicks were used only in that era or today some of our pilots use them as well?

+ Can u please write some detail about Khatak ali kuli's kills inside Afghanistan....if possible!

Najam Nick names or airforce names given to you remain till the day you die, People often forget your name but when you take names like Arif Mota , or mansoor Bajlii, Shaquat Chibarr we all know who they are and yes they are nick names till today.
it was not Khatak AK but EX COAS Abbas Khatak who shot the plane.
21 November 1988
F-16A Fighting Falcon
PAF Minhas :1 Soviet An-26 Shot down while on a recce mission inside Pakistan. He later became the COAS, 1994-1997.

 

[Muradk]

This may be of some interest to you

Sargodha 1963-64: Pilots from No 9 Squadron Pakistan Air Force with their F 104s during rehearsals for the March 23, 1963 or 64 Republic Day flypast.
Traditionally, the flypast is led by the Air Force chief, at the time Air Marshal Asghar Khan. See below for details

Abbas Mirza, retired as Air Vice Marshal; Ishaq, Flight Lieutenant, died 1969 in MiG 21 crash near Habbinayah air base while serving on deputation in Iraq;
Arif Iqbal, retired as Wing Commander; Mervyn Leslie Middlecoat, SJ and Bar, S Bt, missing presumed dead, 1971 war; Farooq Umar SJ, retired as Air Vice Marshal,
later served as head of PIA; Asghar Khan, Air Marshal, C in C at the time; Jamal Khan, SJ, retired as Air Chief Marshal, served as Chief of Air Staff; Hakimullah, SJ,
retired as Air Chief Marshal, served as Chief of Air Staff; Arif Manzoor, Squadron Leader, died serving on deputation in Syria, 1974, while bailing out from MiG 21 after ejection seat failure and impacting the tail; G.U. Abbasi, Flight Lieutenant, died 1977-78 in F 104 crash after inflight fire near Mianwali during air display
practice; Rashid Bhatti, retired as Air Commodore; Mushtaq Alam, Flight Lieutenant, died 1968 when F 6 impacted the ground during dogfight practice

 

[Muradk]

Neo the above photo is all yours.
mk

 

[shehbazi2001]

G.U. Abbasi, Flight Lieutenant, died 1977-78 in F 104 crash after inflight fire near Mianwali during air display practice;

Thats a rare picture. Sir I just want to know if F-104s were used for air displays even after retirement?

The article of Gp Capt Hali says that F-104 was put out of service in 1972. Many other references say the same thing. Perhaps it was not completely retired........

F-104 Starfighters in PAKISTAN AIR FORCE

 

[Muradk]

Thats a rare picture. Sir I just want to know if F-104s were us groundeded for air displays even after retirement?

The article of Gp Capt Hali says that F-104 was put out of service in 1972. Many other references say the same thing. Perhaps it was not completely retired........

F-104 Starfighters in PAKISTAN AIR FORCE

F-104s were grounded because you can't run a Sqd with 6 fighters, The fighters were given back to Jordan right after the war. So in 1972 they grounded.

 

[binzaman]

F-104s were grounded because you can't run a Sqd with 6 fighters, The fighters were given back to Jordan right after the war. So in 1972 they grounded.

Sir! you are the true hero, we are breathing in free air its just because of heroes like you.
I would like to dedicate a "shiar" to our national hero

Yeah Khoub Ayaa'n hia duniya par--Hum phool bhi hian Talwaar bhi hain

Yaa Bazm-e-Jahan Mehkayein gay--Yaa khoon mai'n naha kar dum lain gay

Many Regards

 

[chindit]

Thats a rare picture. Sir I just want to know if F-104s were used for air displays even after retirement?

The article of Gp Capt Hali says that F-104 was put out of service in 1972. Many other references say the same thing. Perhaps it was not completely retired........

F-104 Starfighters in PAKISTAN AIR FORCE

abbasi died 67-68 - pakdef says so