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This deal will put now some real pressure on dassault
Most likely these will be similar to 50 off the SU30K's that were imported initially, and subsequently MKI'ised. One prudent thing would be for India is to ensure India gets equal IP and manufacturing rights on PMF FGFA so there are no caps and design data deficiency.........
At the end of the day.... IAF needs to sit down with ARDC HAL, take AMCA, and just freakin get it done. There is a huge advantage at having your own platform....
thus I said ARDC and not ADAFirst we will need to get LCA mk 2 complete
Government is NOT happy with the whole LCA mk 1 programme
DRDO cannot expect AMCA to sanctioned so soon
As things stand There is a talk of consultants for LCA mk2
That shows how much work has to be done just for LCA mk2
thus I said ARDC and not ADA
I can tell you what ARDC has done, their turn around time on projects is probably 10 times more efficient on PPD than any other organisation in India...These are the achievements of ARDC from their own website
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ARDC has 13 successful aircraft Designs to its credit, ranging from basic piston Trainers to the frontline combat aircraft (HT-2, PUSPAK, KRISHAK, MARUT, KIRAN MK-1, BASANTH, AJEET, KIRAN MK-II, HPT-32, AJEET TRAINER, HTT-34, LCA and IJT).
Source Aircraft
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Now how can they get to AMCA if they cant make a trainer
And how can they claim LCA as their design
ARDC can work together with ADA
They had to PDM the entire screw up of ADA for LCA, and the LCA mk2 and thus the LCA goes on the list, btw add ALH, LCH, Bison integration and MKI development to the list too.
ADA was created to undercut HAL.... the thought process of IAF in those days was, HAL engineers are Snobs and MoD would create an IAF design agency... little did they know that dealing with scientists is even more difficult than dealing with engineers.I am very thankful to you for this information
This means that there is STILL Hope for LCA mk2 and AMCA
But LCA mk1 has been a disappointment ; no matter who messed up
I mean how can they NOT think of a quartz radome earlier
The radar was ready in 2010
So we should bring ADA under the control of ARDC
french will diliver first but its not just5 billion for wepons what about 10-15 billion for training mentainence and feul/running & spare parts costsIf both Rafale and Pak Fa are both signed, who will deliver first?
Pak Fa mass production not started yet..
Rafale, Egypt and Qatar orders are ahead of us..
i dont think we can pay for both at the same time
Armaments for Pak fA internal weapons bay will be all new , so it will also cost a lot.. we cant integrate missiles and bombs that are already in our inventory ..
rough calculation
Rafale 36 = 6 billions
Pak fa 65 = 8 billions
then weapons on both = ? 5 billions $ ?