I was Raped in China (An American's Perspective)

[JayAtl]

After insisting that I go to a hospital to be checked for STDs, the doctor led me to the Dermatology Department. Later, I found out that the hospital had no "official" Gynecology department because health problems in that area of the body were not considered "proper." A story I heard later struck me. Rape is considered so taboo in Chinese culture that rape victims' were shunned and not even allowed to wash their clothes with other members of the family.

Sad, this is further quantified by LAWS they have in china :

China's 'Child Rape Isn't Rape' Law Is Sparking Outrage

 

[Aka123]

@http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=11605 @http://www.defence.pk/forums/member.php?u=15719

It has been predominantly JayAtl; most others have not been causing issues. He needs to be perma-banned or else you might lose significant user base. He has filled the world forums with rape threads. It's becoming useless to come to the world forums now.

In the morning I saw a thread......... American Girl shares rape experience in India, there's one more thread now - Obesity in India.Such irrelevant threads these are. Though there is a sticky for rape, still individual threads are popping up. Everyone should stop. Only then it'll stop.
@JayAtl ............. Plz don't post any more rape thread. Lets see if we can stop and make the others stop as well.

 

[JayAtl]

In Chinese forums, trolls are dealt with ruthlessly, that's why our societies are far more advanced than corrupt societies like India and Pakistan.

This is the problem with countries like India and Pakistan and your countries and people never progress.

Now you insulting Pakistan too....

In the morning I saw a thread......... American Girl shares rape experience in India, there's one more thread now - Obesity in India.Such irrelevant threads these are. Though there is a sticky for rape, still individual threads are popping up. Everyone should stop. Only then it'll stop.
@JayAtl ............. Plz don't post any more rape thread. Lets see if we can stop and make the others stop as well.

Oh I only post because these Chinese are given the free range to post over and over and over again. personally I think Rape should be off the table as it is humanitarian issue , global issue and not one to taunt anyone. But hey! they keep posting 100 threads , I come back and post a couple- and they freak out

 

[Lightningbolt]

You mean they would 'clean up' us 'inferior' Asians who dares to challenge Chinese claims.

This place is far more respected than your playground, and you know which one am talking about. Over there, the only thing the members know how is post pictures and yank...I mean...thank...each other. None have any military experience to enlighten others on what/how the military views things. None have any related experience, not even 2nd degree away, of the subjects under discussions, especially the technical ones. So please...Spare us your feeble attempt to make your playground relevant. It ain't.

The only reason you are afraid to join CDF is because you will get destroyed worse than you get destroyed in here by Chinese members. And you won't get thanked by clueless Indians.

You don't like getting challenged about your playstation game experience thus avoid CDF.

Guess hanging around Indians and pasting articles you know jack all about and getting thanked by Indians is you way of staying important in life. Kid, cyber world is your ONLY life.

 

[Icewolf]

Because the mods are corrupt. They love trolls because trolls bring more traffic to PDF. That's why PDF is treated like a joke compared to other respected forums where the moderators are strict with trolls.

If more Chinese members were mods here, this forum would be cleaned up pretty quickly.

PDF is one of the most respected forum on the internet... There are REAL professionals here.. And good debates...

@JayAtl has been banned so many times not to count already... I think mods are getting sick of him.... And mods here are not afraid to ban anyone... You should watch yourself bro, Ive seen your comments, and you might be hit with the banhammer as well as @JayAtl in a few hour..

 

[Aka123]

Now you insulting Pakistan too....



Oh I only post because these Chinese are given the free range to post over and over and over again. personally I think Rape should be off the table as it is humanitarian issue , global issue and not one to taunt anyone. But hey! they keep posting 100 threads , I come back and post a couple- and they freak out

I know that, this Lightningbolt is posting such crap in other threads and here trying to become good boy. Anyways I think it'll be better if we stop posting all these, rather report the posts!!

 

[gambit]

Oh getting advise from a guy that goes around the forum boasting about some fantasised military 'experience'

Kid, Rachel Maddow knows more about military than Vietnamese pretenders like you. The only military 'experience' you've ever had is on your little playstation game and posting your little copy and paste articles on PDF 24/7.

Your life is PDF, you have no job, no wife and no life.

Yea, run to the mods Viet, because your feelings got hurt right

Run along.

When you can explain a couple things from Maddow's ignorant ramblings, this forum will take you seriously. I did not say that I will take you seriously. I said 'this forum' because people here have voted on how to view my posts compares to the Chinese members' (crap).

So please...Enlighten us on what you think you know of Maddow's alleged military knowledge.

 

[Lightningbolt]

PDF is one of the most respected forum on the internet... There are REAL professionals here.. And good debates...

@JayAtl has been banned so many times not to count already... I think mods are getting sick of him.... And mods here are not afraid to ban anyone... You should watch yourself bro, Ive seen your comments, and you might be hit with the banhammer as well as @JayAtl in a few hour..

PDF is not respected at all. It's fun if you come for a good troll. Not proper discussion.

CDF is well moderated and therefore is free from trolls. Many respected members here and moving over to CDF.

PDF reflects poorly on Pakistan as a country. Sorry to be do blunt. But I have to say it. The moderation here is amateurish at best and this is why this forum is treated as a joke and infested with trolls. Trolls know they can get away with their crap in here, they know they will get banned and IP blocked if they try this nonsense on CDF or Sinodefence.

 

[conworldus]

Unfortunately, this is what's on CNN's front page. Your link is some random stuff, but this is CNN:

India sexual harassment: American student shares horrific experiences - CNN.com

Sexual harassment in India: 'The story you never wanted to hear'
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iReport CNN iReport
By Daphne Sashin and Katie Hawkins-Gaar, CNN
August 20, 2013 -- Updated 1824 GMT (0224 HKT)
Michaela Cross shared her experiences of repeated sexual harassment while studying abroad in India.
Michaela Cross shared her experiences of repeated sexual harassment while studying abroad in India.
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
U.S. college student Michaela Cross spent three months abroad in India
She says she and others faced repeated sexual harassment in India
She was diagnosed with PTSD and is now on a leave of absence
She shared her story to make others more aware
(CNN) -- Michaela Cross, an American student at the University of Chicago, has written a powerful account of her study abroad trip to India last year, during which she says she experienced relentless sexual harassment, groping and worse.
Upon her return, she says she was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and is now on a mental leave of absence from the school after a public breakdown in the spring.
Cross, a fair-skinned, red-haired South Asian studies major, titled her story "India: The Story You Never Wanted to Hear." She posted her account on CNN iReport under the username RoseChasm.
Her story has struck a chord around the world, racking up about 350,000 page views as of Tuesday morning. It quickly found its way to India, where many readers sympathized with the story and men felt compelled to apologize for the experience she endured. Others called for greater perspective and warned against making generalizations about India or its people.
India's deadly gang rape of a 23-year-old woman in New Delhi happened a few days after Cross left India in December, and she said that helped others understand what she and her classmates went through. The country has continued to see several high-profile cases of rape and sexual violence cases since then, and the government has introduced tougher laws and punishment for sexual crimes.
Keeping chivalry alive in India: Men respond to rape crisis
On her return, Cross struggled to find a way to talk about a cultural experience that was both beautiful and traumatizing, she said in her essay.
She writes:
"Do I tell them about our first night in the city of Pune, when we danced in the Ganesha festival, and leave it at that? Or do I go on and tell them how the festival actually stopped when the American women started dancing, so that we looked around to see a circle of men filming our every move?
"Do I tell them about bargaining at the bazaar for beautiful saris costing a few dollars a piece, and not mention the men who stood watching us, who would push by us, clawing at our breasts and groins?
"When people compliment me on my Indian sandals, do I talk about the man who stalked me for 45 minutes after I purchased them, until I yelled in his face in a busy crowd?"
Later, she writes: "For three months I lived this way, in a traveler's heaven and a woman's hell. I was stalked, groped, masturbated at; and yet I had adventures beyond my imagination. I hoped that my nightmare would end at the tarmac, but that was just the beginning."
A university spokesman confirmed Cross is a student at the school and would not comment on her mental leave. He said the school is committed to students' safety at home and abroad.
Cross said she didn't say anything to the professors on the trip until things reached "a boiling point" -- what she called two rape attempts in 48 hours.
Should solo female travelers avoid India?
Dipesh Chakrabarty, a University of Chicago professor who was in India for the first three weeks of the session, told CNN that he was unaware of Cross' situation. He noted, though, that the university tries to prepare students for what they might encounter while abroad. The Civilizations Abroad in India program was based in the city of Pune, but the students traveled to other areas during the semester.
"Both faculty and staff in Chicago and our local Indian staff counsel students before and during the trip about precautions they need to take in a place like India," Chakrabarty said in an e-mail. "Ensuring student safety and well-being is the top priority of both the College and staff and faculty associated with the program."
The university provided this statement to CNN:
"Nothing is more important to us at the University of Chicago than caring for the safety and well-being of our students, here in Chicago and wherever they go around the world in the course of their studies. The University offers extensive support and advice to students before, during and after their trips abroad, and we are constantly assessing and updating that preparation in light of events and our students' experiences. We also place extremely high value on the knowledge our students seek by traveling and studying other civilizations and cultures, and we are committed to ensuring they can do so in safety while enriching their intellectual lives."
Her story sparked a wave of reaction online, with scores of Indians responding, many with sympathy to her plight and pointing out that Indian women also experience high levels of harassment and abuse.
Arvind Rao, a media professional in Mumbai, was moved to post this comment on her story: "It thoroughly disgusts me to be known as an Indian male ... An apology is extremely meager for all the trauma you've gone through." He expressed hope that politicians would "wake up and implement stricter laws against crime and sexual harassment on women."
"Every time my girlfriend goes out alone, I pray that she comes back home safely," wrote a commenter using the name Jajabar. "Being an Indian male, I apologize."
Others, however, observed that sexual harassment was by no means confined to India, and Indian commenter Sam1967 warned against condemning his home country when so many others failed to protect the women living within their borders.
"I accept what happened was definitely an embarrassment and a cause of trauma for her that might haunt her for the rest of her life. But this has happened in many other countries or places and therefore it may not be the right thing to single out India."
'She could have been me': Action urged after Delhi gang rape
Another woman who said she was on the same University of Chicago sponsored trip to India, posted a response on CNN iReport calling on people to resist stereotyping Indian men and recognize that sexual assault happens all over the world.
The student, Katherine Stewart, said she dealt with her own share of harassment on the trip, but "in my experiences in India, I have met a solid handful of warm and honest Indian men -- men who are also college students, men who also love the thrill of riding on a motorcycle in the busy streets, men who defended me at necessary times, and men who took the time to get to know me and my culture. And that should not at all be surprising."
Stewart said she believed Cross "had every right to tell her story" and in no way wanted to lessen the significance of her experience. But Stewart, who is black, cautioned that "when we do not make the distinction that only some men of a population commit a crime, we develop a stereotype for an entire population. And when we develop a negative stereotype for a population, what arises? Racism."
One thing is certain: Cross sparked a huge discussion with a story that she thought no one wanted to hear. She said she is thankful for her experiences in India, and wants to see more international exposure about what women travelers and residents endure.
"Truth is a gift, a burden, and a responsibility. And I mean to share it," she writes. "This is the story you don't want to hear when you ask me about India. But this is the story you need."
CNN's Sarah Brown contributed to this story.

 

[JayAtl]

Oh getting advise from a guy that goes around the forum boasting about some fantasised military 'experience'

Kid, Rachel Maddow knows more about military than Vietnamese pretenders like you. The only military 'experience' you've ever had is on your little playstation game and posting your little copy and paste articles on PDF 24/7.

Your life is PDF, you have no job, no wife and no life.

Yea, run to the mods Viet, because your feelings got hurt right

Run along.

Oh you like Rachael??? haha this is what she is saying about you http://video.msnbc.********/rachel-maddow/41398592#41398592

Link shows up broken here. here it is below
http://video. msnbc. msn. com/rachel-maddow/41398592#41398592

 

[Icewolf]

PDF is not respected at all. It's fun if you come for a good troll. Not proper discussion.

CDF is well moderated and therefore is free from trolls. Many respected members here and moving over to CDF.

PDF reflects poorly on Pakistan as a country. Sorry to be do blunt. But I have to say it. The moderation here is amateurish at best and this is why this forum is treated as a joke and infested with trolls. Trolls know they can get away with their crap in here, they know they will get banned and IP blocked if they try this nonsense on CDF or Sinodefence.

If you think its so bad then you can leave along with others who think like you

 

[gambit]

The only reason you are afraid to join CDF is because you will get destroyed worse than you get destroyed in here by Chinese members. And you won't get thanked by clueless Indians.

The only reason why I do not join CDF is because I know that what I post will be deleted and I will be swiftly banned simply because I can and will debunk all the fantastic claims the Chinese made about the J-20 and the PLA in general. Over at sinodefense, a Chinese member of the admin staff lied about my behavior and never admitted it. He accused me of persistent abuse of other members, never mind that at the time of my suspension, I had less than 90 post count. So if I have a persistent behavior of abuse, the guy have yet to post that consistency. After all, with less than 90 posts to my credit, that consistency should not be difficult to prove. And yet it was.

No, thanks. I can debunk you guys here just fine.

 

[East Asia United]

When you can explain a couple things from Maddow's ignorant ramblings, this forum will take you seriously. I did not say that I will take you seriously. I said 'this forum' because people here have voted on how to view my posts compares to the Chinese members' (crap).

So please...Enlighten us on what you think you know of Maddow's alleged military knowledge.

You can't be a conservative, salt-of-the-Earth American; they won't allow you to.

I've seen your types before, usually from the Philippines, though there are quite a few Vietnamese. It's sad that you've led such a wasteful life, but it's not to late to go back home and help your countrymen. After all, the Republicans are becoming increasingly pro-White (with the White nationalist movement growing, and rightly so) and they might soon kick your vietcong butt back to your homeland.

You need to stop making a fool of yourself! It's embarrassing to all Southeast Asians when you represent yourself like this (not that I care about the embarrassment of your race, but you get the point).

 

[gambit]

You can't be a conservative, salt-of-the-Earth American; they won't allow you to.

I've seen your types before, usually from the Philippines, though there are quite a few Vietnamese. It's sad that you've led such a wasteful life, but it's not to late to go back home and help your countrymen. After all, the Republicans are becoming increasingly pro-White (with the White nationalist movement growing, and rightly so) and they might soon kick your vietcong butt back to your homeland.

You need to stop making a fool of yourself! It's embarrassing to all Southeast Asians when you represent yourself like this (not that I care about the embarrassment of your race, but you get the point).

Take your pathetic racism back to wherever you got it from. I have no respect for your kind, whether the person be white, black, or yellow. All are equally despicable to me.

 

[Lightningbolt]

When you can explain a couple things from Maddow's ignorant ramblings, this forum will take you seriously. I did not say that I will take you seriously. I said 'this forum' because people here have voted on how to view my posts compares to the Chinese members' (crap).

So please...Enlighten us on what you think you know of Maddow's alleged military knowledge.

Non-Chinese members here have no clue about technical stuff. So when you post your articles and see you long posts, try mistaken it for accurate information. That's the mistake they make.

You post outrageous lies and have been debunked nut motes times by Chinese members but you run away once you're challenged. Indians and others don't challenge you because their knowledge is extremely limited so they buy the crap you spew as 'real'.

Our members understand the lies you slew and call you out on them. This infuriates the hell out of you because you want to post rubbish and pretend to be an 'expert' and a big shot here.

You might be a god to Indians and others, but against Chinese, you are just another little Vietnamese pretender that can't hang with us when you are challenged.

Come join CDF if you got the guys son.

Don't worry I know you're far too scared to get your posts debunked.

As for your nonsense that we 'look down' on other Asians....we are Han Chinese, Asia will always be our backyard, so naturally we consider ourselves better than others.

Vietnamese come to China in the thousands, they respect us and look up to us as big brother.