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Our training is superior.
 
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Wrong discussion, we have already reached the conclusion that Indian military has always been superior both qualitatively and quantitatively because of its bigger size, population and economy but it still cannot dominate a country 10 to 7 times smaller than itself. This is a very poor reflection on India, the biggest importer of weapons in the world.
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Its your conclusion not ours at least not mine ...
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we if you understand world politics then you will understand why india importing weapon..
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pak was imp defence insue wrt to terrorism now also it is..
but we taken our pesudo fredom fighter//jihadist well in j-k...
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india was militarily in term of quantity ahed of pak in last 3 war but may not in qualitya nd traning...
as you had suport of USA so had best reosuce , traning, info...
now its reverse
we have best of world ... russia, usa, france, israle...
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pak is 7 times bigger but used its reosuce to destry india which never happed but in process got fire in own house...
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learn histoy from neutal perspective ..
it will give good insight which will help to build good futurer

Our training is superior.
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how can you explain please
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And you guys are 7 times smaller than India and still 3rd (maybe 4th) largest importer of weapons and China is second. Don't cry about size and population....Japan have smaller size and population than both countries and still look at their Economy and South Korea is also good example. When did you had a War with USA? USA is supporting you in anything and start barking on them for more help from China.
And don't worry about our people, Pakistan also have large number of people under poverty, millions of uneducated, 1000's of people dying in terrorist attacks. So, you should think about your country first and improve it first and then come back.

What support from America? We have squeezed them in a very systematic manner and they know it. Their operation in Afghanistan is a total failure. One does not always have to fight a conventional war to protect its interest or achieve one's goals. India still has the largest number of people below poverty line than any country in the world even more than sub Sahara Africa so lets not talk about poverty. Terrorism in Pakistan is a passing phase, we will control it soon, The Americans will be out of the region and then we can refocus on India again.
 
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What support from America? We have squeezed them in a very systematic manner and they know it. Their operation in Afghanistan is a total failure. One does not always have to fight a conventional war to protect its interest or achieve one's goals. India still has the largest number of people below poverty line than any country in the world even more than sub Sahara Africa so lets not talk about poverty. Terrorism in Pakistan is a passing phase, we will control it soon, The Americans will be out of the region and then we can refocus on India again.
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we are poor ..
we dont sell our soverginity for milking few $
we expoer Information tech not Inter terrosiam like few countires ...
are you proud that you was paid guys// contract for USA to figt their war ..
are life is so cheap..
still USA give dam to pak...
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few billions of $ nothing for USA when they can get good outsoucing for life /blood for money
we outsouce business of IT BPO KPO ,R&D
you outsource their war
good luck
 
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Its your conclusion not ours at least not mine ...
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we if you understand world politics then you will understand why india importing weapon..
--
pak was imp defence insue wrt to terrorism now also it is..
but we taken our pesudo fredom fighter//jihadist well in j-k...
---
india was militarily in term of quantity ahed of pak in last 3 war but may not in qualitya nd traning...
as you had suport of USA so had best reosuce , traning, info...
now its reverse
we have best of world ... russia, usa, france, israle...
---
pak is 7 times bigger but used its reosuce to destry india which never happed but in process got fire in own house...
---
learn histoy from neutal perspective ..
it will give good insight which will help to build good futurer


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how can you explain please
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India is importing weapons because all its domestic defense projects failed, LCA Arjun, Kiran, integrated missile program even in the INSAS rifle etc. etc.

You obviously don't understand Pakistanis, most of them learn how to shoot before they learn how to walk. They love fighting. If they are not fighting somebody else they fight among themselves but some time they get good leaders, get organized and take on and defeat much bigger enemies. Indians should learn that from their own history and that history will repeat itself and it will be sooner than you think.

As far as world politics is concerned, Indians are simply seen as either a market for cheap stuff or supplier of cheap labor for their masters in US and Europe. India has no place in the global balance of power or civilizational shift.
 
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PA is superior in battle experience. :coffee:
 
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India is importing weapons because all its domestic defense projects failed, LCA Arjun, Kiran, integrated missile program even in the INSAS rifle etc. etc.

You obviously don't understand Pakistanis, most of them learn how to shoot before they learn how to walk. They love fighting. If they are not fighting somebody else they fight among themselves but some time they get good leaders, get organized and take on and defeat much bigger enemies. Indians should learn that from their own history and that history will repeat itself and it will be sooner than you think.

As far as world politics is concerned, Indians are simply seen as either a market for cheap stuff or supplier of cheap labor for their masters in US and Europe. India has no place in the global balance of power or civilizational shift.
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indian project..
we have ability and courage to fail...
its about POV
edison fiaeld 100 time before inveting bulb or he undestodd 99 time what is not right way to do for bulb may for smothg else he cna use that 99 failures
so its up to nation ..person..
knowldge never become useless
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pak and fighting force..
if they learn to shoot before walk
get your priority tright
teach them education than shooting
it will help
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india and world..
cheap labour .. reosuce
will you say same for china.. your bro
as its fits them better in manfuctinrg and india in services
is not fit for pak in textile business ....
hope you know how business basic works
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india have no place
please read BRIC banks
just for expalem

PA is superior in battle experience. :coffee:
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you mean COIN operation ?
so in that case Nigerian army.. somalis are better trained than PA, IA, Chinese Army ?
as later always in conflict..means experince ?
 
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we are poor ..
we dont sell our soverginity for milking few $
we expoer Information tech not Inter terrosiam like few countires ...
are you proud that you was paid guys// contract for USA to figt their war ..
are life is so cheap..
still USA give dam to pak...
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few billions of $ nothing for USA when they can get good outsoucing for life /blood for money
we outsouce business of IT BPO KPO ,R&D
you outsource their war
good luck

Please learn how to spell. You are not making any sense. So what is wrong in being a mercenary. Mercenaries dominated Hindus for a 1000 years. I also know about selling IT. There is another word for the H1 visas the Indian love so much. It is called slavery. I have a lot of American friends and they share their views about the Indian IT workers who come to the US. One common theme is their bad personal hygiene, the second is how desperate they get for few dollars and thirdly their lack of self respect.

yep loosing battles and wars.lol.
Your Bollywood version of war, not the reality.

What happened to PA when US seals hunted Osama Bin Laden.

PA was not defending Osama. Maybe it was all arranged. who knows. why did the head of ISI make three trips to the US just before the raid? why was PAF radars asked to stand down. Nobody in Pakistan wants to be associated with killing of OBL. You people are very simple minded and don't understand how the world operates

As far as economy is concerned, in the last 64 years Pakistan outperformed India for most of the years. It only he last 15 years, trend changed in favor of India and now India is back to the old Hindu rate of growth. The trouble is that it starting believing it was a super power and it started spending like one especially in importing weapons and now it has no money to finalize some of the procurement contracts leaving big gaps in its defence.
 
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@Bossman,

you have no idea what is geopolitics.

Please learn how to spell. You are not making any sense. So what is wrong in being a mercenary. Mercenaries dominated Hindus for a 1000 years. I also know about selling IT. There is another word for the H1 visas the Indian love so much. It is called slavery. I have a lot of American friends and they share their views about the Indian IT workers who come to the US. One common theme is their bad personal hygiene, the second is how desperate they get for few dollars and thirdly their lack of self respect.


Your Bollywood version of war, not the reality.



PA was not defending Osama. Maybe it was all arranged. who knows. why did the head of ISI make three trips to the US just before the raid? why was PAF radars asked to stand down. Nobody in Pakistan wants associated with killing of OBL. You people are very simple minded and don't understand how this world operates

You have no idea what the Indian diaspora is worth in north america and europe.
 
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@Bossman,

you have no idea what is geopolitics.



You have no idea what the Indian diaspora is worth in north america and europe.

and the diaspora hates their country of origin

John Kerry Just Visited. But Should We Just Forget About India? - The Daily Beast

and then there is the New York AG of Indian origin who ordered the arrest of the Indian diplomat. You just proved my point. Indians are willing and loyal slaves of the gora sahib. It is built into their DNA.
 
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