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I reject US aid for Pakistan in exchange for sovereignty: Imran on BBC.

@roadrunner,
That man only inherited that name.

:lol:

@Azad Pakistan,
the strategy is good but you are only taxing those who use facilities like banks etc. These are people who are already paying most of the taxes. There are many people who just deal in cash and avoid declaring any assets.

Well the process to send cash into Pakistan needs to be more streamlined

Pakistan Government Should Setup an PAKISTAN - Account Money Transfer Fund Account


All People who want to send should send the funds into that 1 account -
Government of Pakistan Treasury would then automatically deduct money 1%. on amounts less then 1000 dollars

0.50% on funds between 1000-10,000



Example:
Step #1:
I want to send 100 $ dollar to Pakistan , I would go and send the wire to Pakistan Treasury Account (Money Transfer Fund Account)

Step#2:
Pakistan Treasury (Money Transfer Fund Account) would then issue me a receipt # that I can print
it would ask me which bank the receiver will pick money from and what is their NADRA ID CARD

Step#3:
Pakistan Intelligence would check the transaction the NADRA ID Card in 2 minute check give clearance behind scene

Step #4 :
Reciver gets copy of the receipt number and bank location to please go and pick the funds from

Step#5 :
Pakistan Treasury will deduct 1% transaction fee automatically form this 1 account and this goes to Pakistan Tresury
remaining fund is made available to reciver

Step#6:
Receiver goes to submits their receipt number and shows their ID card gets cash , Bank issues funds


No NEED FOR PERSON TO HAVE A bank account for this purpose just your NADRA ID card





The Pakistan Gov would then issue receipt of the transaction to Sender in Europe/US/Middle East/Canada , and Receiver in Pakistan

User Brings the receipt/ NADRA card to any bank

The Bank would keep the receipt number , and then issue funds to the receiver after checking NADRA card

People should not be required to have a BANK ACCOUNT OPENED IN ANY BANK for money transfer just bring in your NADRA ID CARD to any BANK BRANCH

Benefits:

GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN : Can track all money transfers
Tax/ revenue: Money can be deducted directly into Pakistan Treasury corruption only happens outside of institutes, software and banks don't make errors

Collect Money -> send it to Pakistan treasury first deduct Pakistan's share -> then give the rest to receiver

We have every thing in place -

All Pakistanis have NADRA CARDS
All Pakistani over seas have national id cards / or foreign passports

The banks - would end of month , deposit the receipts that they collected and get refund from Pakistan Treasury

This way

a) Most of time people don't send case via banks is because ppl don't have bank accounts their relatives could be poor or they don't have enough money
b) Sometimes the process takes 6-7 days for money to reach them when the need is immediate like 24 hours turn around


If Pakistan follows this very simple process they can gain another 10-22 billion dollars

You could take your receipt copy from Pakistan Treasury , to any Bank in Pakistan


The biggest problem right now is

a) Bank fees
b) You need to setup a bank account and that has service fees
c) Delays 3-5 days delays in sending funds

I mean this is why illegal money sending is popular because its very fast same day

We need to stop this system and push for things to go more streamlined manner

Look at India , they have facilities and means to send money transfers in 24 hours so ppl don't use other services


I mean we can generate 10-22 billion dollar annually from this successful fast efficient system

We don't need to beg Hilary clinton or John Kerry for mere 1 billion dollars - ?

Its none sense


What the GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN NEED TO DO IS GIVE 100% GUARANTEE THAT YOU USE THIS SYSTEM

You will not be harassed by US or other countries , for sending money to your relatives. Pakistan is monitoring all transactions in Pakistan


This promises will encourage 1000% Pakistanis to send cash home

This is how it should be !!!

Also its safe because - Only funds are issued to people with valid NADRA cards who are nationals of Pakistan
Anyone , on a watch list (Links to Terrorist group will be spotted by ISI just by their NADRA card)

And money would not go in wrong hands -
 
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@roadrunner,
That man only inherited that name.

:lol:

@Azad Pakistan,
the strategy is good but you are only taxing those who use facilities like banks etc. These are people who are already paying most of the taxes. There are many people who just deal in cash and avoid declaring any assets.

Well the process to send cash into Pakistan needs to be more streamlined

Pakistan Government Should Setup an Account Money Transfer Fund Account


All People who want to send should send the funds into that 1 account -
Government of Pakistan Treasury would then automatically deduct money 1%. on amounts less then 1000 dollars

0.50% on funds between 1000-10,000


The Pakistan Gov would then issue receipt of the transaction to Sender in Europe/US/Middle East/Canada , and Receiver in Pakistan

User Brings the receipt/ NADRA card to any bank

The Bank would keep the receipt number , and then issue funds to the receiver after checking NADRA card

People should not be required to have a BANK ACCOUNT OPENED IN ANY BANK for money transfer just bring in your NADRA ID CARD to any BANK BRANCH

Benefits:

GOVERNMENT OF PAKISTAN : Can track all money transfers
Tax/ revenue: Money can be deducted directly into Pakistan Treasury corruption only happens outside of institutes, software and banks don't make errors

Collect Money -> send it to Pakistan treasury first deduct Pakistan's share -> then give the rest to receiver

We have every thing in place -

All Pakistanis have NADRA CARDS
All Pakistani over seas have national id cards / or foreign passports

The banks - would end of month , deposit the receipts that they collected and get refund from Pakistan Treasury

This way

a) Most of time people don't send case via banks is because ppl don't have bank accounts their relatives could be poor or they don't have enough money
b) Sometimes the process takes 6-7 days for money to reach them when the need is immediate like 24 hours turn around


If Pakistan follows this very simple process they can gain another 10-22 billion dollars

You could take your receipt copy from Pakistan Treasury , to any Bank in Pakistan


Other option for Pakistan is to make , money exchanges illegal in Pakistan and only Banks should be allowed to send / receive cash

Any one trying to deposit large amounts of funds in their account should be asked ? where did they got this cash from ...
 
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I agree to most of the post, esp the removal of the bank account requirement to transfer money. HBL from middle-east has already started sending money for free to Pakistan. No need for a bank account at all. Plus using NADRA ID should be a must and I heard it is already implemented, which has reduced the amount of PKR-Dollar exchanges taking place.

Another way to track the flow of money within Pakistan is to encourage, through new financial policies, the use of cheque for all payments above a certain level. This way all payments go through the banks whose transactions can be monitored by the banks themselves and the government.

An Islamic finance expert also suggested on DAWN to stop issuiing large denominations like 1000 and 5000. They only help the corrupt people in paying and receiving money. If they are forced to use smaller denominations like PKR 200 max, then they will have to carry huge suitcases to transfer money. Something which will attract attention and hopefully will be reported.
 
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Dear Mr. Khan, please tell the terrorists based inside your country to not violate the sovereignty of other countries and we shall have a deal.

As long as you cannot do that, your country cannot claim sovereignty.

and you think afghanistan is a sovereign nation???
 
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Its pretty annoying that we Pakistanis can't discuss anything on here without some indians making a stupid comment and ruining the thread :disagree:
 
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They road used by NATO is 101% made up for NATO trucks... Musharaf B**** made that road just for NATO supply. There is not a single Petrol station between 800 kilometer of road.... and why because that road is not for transport or civilian.. that road only for supply our enemy AMERICA!
 
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"...and you think afghanistan is a sovereign nation???"

If you don't then it's only because you don't support the U.N. stabilization mission for Afghanistan.

If you don't then it also explains why Pakistanis have no problem with their precious sovereignty violated by the presence of the ousted Afghan taliban government on their soil since late 2001.

That would be evident by the complete absence of Pakistani Army combat operations against the afghan taliban government's sanctuaries during the last decade.

With sovereign rights come sovereign responsibilities. Pakistan has lost claim to those rights by failure to abide by its responsibilities. Afterall, for what is a nat'l army if not to oust the presence of a foreign government upon your soil? Do not the sanctuaries of the Afghan taliban leadership qualify?

Most of the world would suggest they do.

PREDATOR is the least intrusive, most precise means available for the United States to protect the afghan citizens, our ISAF allies and ourselves from attacks by these men in the absence of Pakistan meeting its sovereign obligations. We have a right to self-defense and it'll be exercised until Pakistan makes a concerted, visible and effective effort to rid itself of the Afghan taliban sanctuaries.

Thanks.:usflag:
 
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Imran is a hypocrite and playing on the sentiments of the people. I ask him, why does he not starts a Dharna and sit out against the injustices that the TTP and their allies have committed against Pakistan. These pigs have killed far more people in Pakistan than the Drones have, how come Imran does not brings that up? We have already seen what sort of the people the TTP are when they briefly took power in Swat, just ask the people of Swat what their rule was like.

He can bi*** about sovereignty once we get rid off all the terrorist groups that are operating on our soil. The Chechens, Uzbeks, Afghans and Arabs are operating on our soil are creating chaos in our country. Isnt that a breach of sovereignty? There needs to be a common census among the people of Pakistan that all these groups need to be eliminated by force, we have already tried the peace dialogue and it blew up on our faces full time.
 
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The aid is because you support their cause. You will end up supporting their cause anyway, aid or no aid. Why not bargain better and get a good deal. Also you end up killing some terrorists.
It is not as if they give you aid and emotionally blackmail you to help them.
 
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Imran is a hypocrite and playing on the sentiments of the people. I ask him, why does he not starts a Dharna and sit out against the injustices that the TTP and their allies have committed against Pakistan. These pigs have killed far more people in Pakistan than the Drones have, how come Imran does not brings that up? We have already seen what sort of the people the TTP are when they briefly took power in Swat, just ask the people of Swat what their rule was like.

He can bi*** about sovereignty once we get rid off all the terrorist groups that are operating on our soil. The Chechens, Uzbeks, Afghans and Arabs are operating on our soil are creating chaos in our country. Isnt that a breach of sovereignty? There needs to be a common census among the people of Pakistan that all these groups need to be eliminated by force, we have already tried the peace dialogue and it blew up on our faces full time.

in that case then all pakistani politicians are hypocrites because no politicial party has done dharna against TTP or any other terrorist organisation. By the way the parliament has passed a resolution that Drone attacks should not be allowed any longer, but atleast khan saab has made an effort to stop these from occuring, what has your MQM or PPP or PMLN done so far to stop the drone attacks....... errrr nothing.

ummeed ka nishan IMRAN KHAN
 
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Imran is a hypocrite and playing on the sentiments of the people. I ask him, why does he not starts a Dharna and sit out against the injustices that the TTP and their allies have committed against Pakistan. These pigs have killed far more people in Pakistan than the Drones have, how come Imran does not brings that up? We have already seen what sort of the people the TTP are when they briefly took power in Swat, just ask the people of Swat what their rule was like.

He can bi*** about sovereignty once we get rid off all the terrorist groups that are operating on our soil. The Chechens, Uzbeks, Afghans and Arabs are operating on our soil are creating chaos in our country. Isnt that a breach of sovereignty? There needs to be a common census among the people of Pakistan that all these groups need to be eliminated by force, we have already tried the peace dialogue and it blew up on our faces full time.

He is another MI6 , Mosaad agent wrking here....:devil:
 
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