I don't like the Odds of Plebiscite in Kashmir being in Pak favour. (Opinion).

[Jackdaws]

Independence was not an option

True. Isn't that also the case in J & K - only India and Pak are supposed to options under the UN Res - independence is not?

 

[Infinity]

I'm fine with Kashmiris gaining independence. We only care about their oppression from the Brahmin state.

This will include Kashmir in Pakistan .................ie; P0K

 

[jaunty]

And I don't like the odds of this plebiscite happening.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

I agree with the OP' assertion, the Kashmiri muslims or rather the valley of Kashmir is concerned with its economic outcome more than who goes where. Currently, they have their gripe at being treated unfairly by India and see some further autonomy as the actual goal vis a vis economics(which is always what it is about).

As for Pakistan "occupied" or Indian "occupied".. its already too well entrenched by troops to move any inches left or right as such. The issue for Pakistan has, and will always be the water supply because that is life. If today India is able to sign a massive guarantee that it says "Pakistan will receive more than its fair share of water".. the LOC will be the IB, AJK becomes a province and the whole Kashmiri movement settled...with Hafiz Saeed being shuttled off to Burkina Faso or someplace to fend for himself.

What will remain is Siachen, but that will resolve itself as long as the water issue is resolved.

To answer your absurd assertion and comparing our Army as occupiers like the Indians is ridiculous! Are we fighting our Army??? Are they seen as occupiers from us Kashmiris? NO! Stop comparing the Indian occupation of Kashmir in the same breath as Azad PAKISTAN Kashmir.

To answer your ''opinion'' and held by the ''cowards in power'' and was put forward by the hypocrite ghair-Musharaf and rejected by the INDIANS of making the LOC as IB. If this is a viable option for you cowards then why did the HINDUS reject it? Don't you get it they will not rest until Pakistan no longer exists and this is not just the Hindu wish. Go and read the Times magazine on ''Balkanisation of Pakistan''.

We will NEVER accept LOC as IB and NO one in the GOVERNMENT better even think about it. We would rather our land be handed over to the HINDUS and we'll teach them! They have 700,000+ troops already, by Allah they we'll need another 700,000+ for our side of Kashmir.

People like you are the ones who sell Muslims like cattle like ghair-Musharaff was selling for $1m. No nation has ever ALLOWED another to bomb and kill its own people. What nation gives part of its land to another -China (Kashmir). Cowards in power and blood-suckers of our country!

Don't force our hand against our brothers, so be careful what you say wish for.

 

[Zibago]

This will include Kashmir in Pakistan .................ie; P0K

Thats ajk to you buddy

 

[SQ8]

To answer your absurd assertion and comparing our Army as occupiers like the Indians is ridiculous! Are we fighting our Army??? Are they seen as occupiers from us Kashmiris? NO! Stop comparing the Indian occupation of Kashmir in the same breath as Azad PAKISTAN Kashmir.

To answer your ''opinion'' and held by the ''cowards in power'' and was put forward by the hypocrite ghair-Musharaf and rejected by the INDIANS of making the LOC as IB. If this is a viable option for you cowards then why did the HINDUS reject it? Don't you get it they will not rest until Pakistan no longer exists and this is not just the Hindu wish. Go and read the Times magazine on ''Balkanisation of Pakistan''.

We will NEVER accept LOC as IB and NO one in the GOVERNMENT better even think about it. We would rather our land be handed over to the HINDUS and we'll teach them! They have 700,000+ troops already, by Allah they we'll need another 700,000+ for our side of Kashmir.

People like you are the ones who sell Muslims like cattle like ghair-Musharaff was selling for $1m. No nation has ever ALLOWED another to bomb and kill its own people. What nation gives part of its land to another -China (Kashmir). Cowards in power and blood-suckers of our country!

Don't force our hand against our brothers, so be careful what you say wish for.

The day you understand comprehension and learn to control your hormones, is the day you will be worthy of a reply.

However, to answer your pointless rant.. the "occupied" tag refers to how the Indians perceive it as.

As for the rest of your rant, you are most welcome to demonstrate it by having the guts to go beyond your computer, sign up with the Lashkar and launch into India sometime next month. Otherwise all you are is hot air and fakeness.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

The day you understand comprehension and learn to control your hormones, is the day you will be worthy of a reply.

However, to answer your pointless rant.. the "occupied" tag refers to how the Indians perceive it as.

As for the rest of your rant, you are most welcome to demonstrate it by having the guts to go beyond your computer, sign up with the Lashkar and launch into India sometime next month. Otherwise all you are is hot air and fakeness.

By throwing the gauntlet and then backing off is a sure sign of what I say about people of your standing. I don't know any Lashkar, however Allah has blessed Barelvi-Madaris and ours is open. So talk from people like is cheap, we say and we do! TRY US! I will not entertain the Hindus on here.

 

[SQ8]

By throwing the gauntlet and then backing off is a sure sign of what I say about people of your standing. I don't know any Lashkar, however Allah has blessed Barelvi-Madaris and ours is open. So talk from people like is cheap, we say and we do! TRY US! I will not entertain the Hindus on here.

Trying to falsify accusation is something common to Barelvi Madaris?

You have been tried, go pick a gun and head to India. You are a coward for all intents and purposes if you think your Jihad is on the internet and somehow you will be rewarded for it.
So confident of success, then leave the PC.. find a AK.. and head out and win your freedom if you have the guts.

 

[Shaybs]

I disagree.

 

[SQ8]

Falsification is common trait of qadiyanis. Get back to what you said about making the LOC and IB and my reply was in response to that and to those who try to sell us out to the Hindus. Coward who sits in ingland and tells me I'm a coward!

Go and correct yourself belief before you start talking about the fate of others!

Emotional huffing and puffing along with sectarianism and hatred is the sign of extremists and potential terrorists.
In this case someone who cannot man up to his initial boasting of fighting against India.
If you are actually man enough, carry out your threat against India.. or remain a cowardly internet Jihadi.
@Infinity ,You guys dont have to worry about anything.. see this guy is going to remain confined to his computer and break his keyboard eventually. They have lost the will for struggle beyond the internet.

 

[SQ8]

I am of Kashmiri descent. I want to write a thread arguing the exact opposite of what the author of this thread wrote and why Pakistan should accept India's challenge of "taking back Pakistan 'occupied' Kashmir".
The only tetrorist here is you and those support oppression and are against a plebiscite.

A Kashmir who uses a location flag for the UK while sitting in Pakistan. Sure.

 

[indiatester]

The day you understand comprehension and learn to control your hormones, is the day you will be worthy of a reply.

However, to answer your pointless rant.. the "occupied" tag refers to how the Indians perceive it as.

As for the rest of your rant, you are most welcome to demonstrate it by having the guts to go beyond your computer, sign up with the Lashkar and launch into India sometime next month. Otherwise all you are is hot air and fakeness.

Trying to falsify accusation is something common to Barelvi Madaris?

You have been tried, go pick a gun and head to India. You are a coward for all intents and purposes if you think your Jihad is on the internet and somehow you will be rewarded for it.
So confident of success, then leave the PC.. find a AK.. and head out and win your freedom if you have the guts.

Are you serious?
It seems as if you are egging on someone to become a terrorist?

 

[SQ8]

Are you serious?
It seems as if you are egging on someone to become a terrorist?

If he comes to India, gets shot in the head.. that is one less for us to worry about. Better him be motivated to take his bigotry and hatred against the LoC than killing women and children here.

 

[Kaniska]

Funny, Ive been saying this for a long time. Its always been about the water; the Pakistani establishment is not as insane as is thought in India. They know what they are fighting for and it is worth all the mess since it is the keystone of life.

Trust me...If Water is the case, why do not Pakistan put up the proposal in formal way...I do not think, no sane Indian would like to fight war with Pakistan by stopping the water for Pakistan...That will be an immoral and inhuman war which even none of the Indian political party will support...

 

[ito]

Trust me...If Water is the case, why do not Pakistan put up the proposal in formal way...I do not think, no sane Indian would like to fight war with Pakistan by stopping the water for Pakistan...That will be an immoral and inhuman war which even none of the Indian political party will support...

Exactly....India will be more than ready to give up even more water than that stipulated by IWT, if it solves Kashmir