Hundreds of Chinese and Bangladeshi labourers in deadly clashes at Beijing-backed power plant near D

[tower9]

I personally have never had any problems with the Chinese; however if you read world guides, they come across as the worst tourists. Regarded as rude and selfish.

The Chinese government must train these people how to interact with foreigners.

Chinese people who are 40, maybe even 35 and above are pretty uneducated. They are the ones foreigners usually complain about as tourists and they have zero self awareness. The younger generations, especially 20-25 are a lot more educated and learn to act more politely when they go overseas. They grew up in a much wealthier country and probably act more like the Japanese than the older generations of Chinese.

Overall, Chinese people are pretty clueless when it comes to interacting with foreign people though because they come from a very homogeneous society. You can pretty much see it on this board with the awkward communication skills of the Mainland Chinese here, whether it is defending the Uighur detention camps or when they turn every issue into a bashing of India regardless of whether it has to do with India or anything Indians have said, or even when they express their friendship to Pakistanis, it all comes out very awkward and unnatural. They have zero awareness and understanding to really relate to foreigners in a natural way.

I don't know what really happened to cause the conflict, it might have been just as much the fault of the Bangladeshi, but China should really stop sending huge amounts of its workers overseas.

 

[Max]

Well Chinese have not left a good mark in Pakistan and now bangaldesh or Africa .
Pmln government for material benefits to get re-elected again , allot them very expensive projects , made by the Chinese loans with Chinese labors and huge profits to the Chinese companies. The two power plants still face problems daily .
And the scandle of marring pakiatan women . They can marry women by telling them their real financial condition, but lying about financial situation and then kidnapping women to bear kids . Un bearable..and other prostitution rings active too .
Their mentality is very different from us.
They are newly developed nation with the mentality of their people still not hanged and they think like people in non developed nation do also they have expansionist nature.
China is our friend but first impression is the last impression. Every where they go. People face the same problem. Their people fight local people and have no respect of local Culture etc .
I support economic projects and yes Pakistan is suffering through some tough times but Pakistan is not some nation that would just stay like this . We have our own embitions . We want friendship at equal terms .
Pakistan and China should only work on FDI or BOOT and never take any of the state loans from China anymore .
That's why diamer bhasha dam was refused by Pakistan as China was asking very bad terms and so at the peak of our friendship chairman wapda have to announce his displeasure at the terms China has to offer .
China should be careful in whom they send abroad as they represent the country .
Now they think it is time to find jobs for people abroad by giving loans and then sending their own people but Atleast select better people.
Till now they talk about 2nd face of cpec but don't talk about relocation of industry while Pakistani government is literly begging them for that and asking them again and again and even announcing their intention in world stage.

I agree about loan, we shouldn't take any loan from China for CPEC Projects until they fullfil their promise to shift some industries in Pakistan, we should cut the budgets of CPEC projects and divert it for subsidies to our exporters especially garment sector and should do something about trade deficit with China as well.

On topic, I don't think it ever happened in Pakistan, Chinese builded dozen or more plants in Pakistan and i heard nothing like this. Except few small scuffle and one where they were misbehaving with Police who were stopping them to go outside bcoz of security concerns. But I am telling Chinese if their commie terrorism didn't stop, they will lose badly. They are already losing PR battle as evident from this thread. @beijingwalker

 

[tower9]

Well Chinese have not left a good mark in Pakistan and now bangaldesh or Africa .
Pmln government for material benefits to get re-elected again , allot them very expensive projects , made by the Chinese loans with Chinese labors and huge profits to the Chinese companies. The two power plants still face problems daily .
And the scandle of marring pakiatan women . They can marry women by telling them their real financial condition, but lying about financial situation and then kidnapping women to bear kids . Un bearable..and other prostitution rings active too .
Their mentality is very different from us.
They are newly developed nation with the mentality of their people still not hanged and they think like people in non developed nation do also they have expansionist nature.
China is our friend but first impression is the last impression. Every where they go. People face the same problem. Their people fight local people and have no respect of local Culture etc .
I support economic projects and yes Pakistan is suffering through some tough times but Pakistan is not some nation that would just stay like this . We have our own embitions . We want friendship at equal terms .
Pakistan and China should only work on FDI or BOOT and never take any of the state loans from China anymore .
That's why diamer bhasha dam was refused by Pakistan as China was asking very bad terms and so at the peak of our friendship chairman wapda have to announce his displeasure at the terms China has to offer .
China should be careful in whom they send abroad as they represent the country .
Now they think it is time to find jobs for people abroad by giving loans and then sending their own people but Atleast select better people.
Till now they talk about 2nd face of cpec but don't talk about relocation of industry while Pakistani government is literly begging them for that and asking them again and again and even announcing their intention in world stage.

To be fair, the marriage scam issue is a pretty rare incident IMO. I don't think this is a common thing in China or for Chinese to do, it's just a bunch of scumbags and gangsters who were doing this and hopefully after they are punished, it will be the end of it. It's pretty horrible PR for China though, I would agree with that.

 

[Pakistansdefender]

To be fair, the marriage scam issue is a pretty rare incident IMO. I don't think this is a common thing in China or for Chinese to do, it's just a bunch of scumbags and gangsters who were doing this and hopefully after they are punished, it will be the end of it. It's pretty horrible PR for China though, I would agree with that.

Yar they have this problem of shortage of women due to one child policy . In their desperation they are looking for women and of course they can marry Christian women of they agree to marry the men from the Chinese religion. But marrying women by lying that they have converted to Islam or Christianity and then lying about the financial condition . Of course the women is marrying for your financial condition and not for love ...
I would equally blame the women and their families too in this .

 

[tower9]

Yar they have this problem of shortage of women due to one child policy . In their desperation they are looking for women and of course they can marry Christian women of they agree to marry the men from the Chinese religion. But marrying women by lying that they have converted to Islam or Christianity and then lying about the financial condition . Of course the women is marrying for your financial condition and not for love ...
I would equally blame the women and their families too in this .

Well, obviously the gang who did this were evil people and deserve the death sentence. With that said, I think this was more of an isolated incident, I don't think this is a common thing in China.

Most Chinese men take marriage very seriously tbh, far more than people in the West.

 

[nang2]

That's how it should be, if foreigners go to other countries then they should respect the host country's culture and way of life.

In the meantime, be prepared to be offended. Otherwise, it is much safer not to let anyone come. Remember, when he is a stranger to you, so are you to him. Be a general host, not a sensitive one. Nobody likes to visit someone sensitive.

 

[American Pakistani]

China is the new East India Company. Their workers, officers and staff have similar attitude here in Pakistan as well.

Do you have any proofs?

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

In the meantime, be prepared to be offended. Otherwise, it is much safer not to let anyone come. Remember, when he is a stranger to you, so are you to him. Be a general host, not a sensitive one. Nobody likes to visit someone sensitive.

Do Chinese not understand the concept of respect? Cause it sure seems like it

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

China is the new East India Company. Their workers, officers and staff have similar attitude here in Pakistan

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Pakistanis are not indians and the Chinese are not the English. So the analogy of the "east india company" is completely irrelevant here.

 

[nang2]

Do Chinese not understand the concept of respect? Cause it sure seems like it

Do you? Respect is earned, not assumed. You simply assume visitors have to respect you.

 

[S.Y.A]

Do you have any proofs?

come to Pakistan, go to any Chinese run facility, you will have your proofs.

A small example:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1978232/1-chinese-man-arrested-pushing-worker-furnace/

Do you? Respect is earned, not assumed. You simply assume visitors have to respect you.

Puh-lease. Like Oscar said in another thread, friends, not masters. behave like masters and people will hit back.

China needs to keep its criminals in Chinese prisons, they are exporting hordes of criminals to work on their projects:

https://www.dawn.com/news/1399531

 

[tower9]

In the meantime, be prepared to be offended. Otherwise, it is much safer not to let anyone come. Remember, when he is a stranger to you, so are you to him. Be a general host, not a sensitive one. Nobody likes to visit someone sensitive.

Are you an idiot? Like I said, many of the Mainland Chinese here are socially retarded.

If foreigners came to China to commit crimes, would you be cool with that? Or if they disrespected Chinese customs, would you be cool with that? You are seriously a dumbass like most of the Mainland Chinese posters here.

BTW, take that US flag out of your profile, you are obviously a Mainland Chinese FOB and not American in any sense.

 

[American Pakistani]

come to Pakistan, go to any Chinese run facility, you will have your proofs.

A small example:
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1978232/1-chinese-man-arrested-pushing-worker-furnace/

Your link shows a person of Chinese origin, it never says China or its govt. In your post you claimed "CHINA" has become east India company.

My point here is, we should look every individual as an individual, and not started painting entire country or it's ppl as such. On our part we too have many bad apples in our society.

Further more it is the job of govt of Pakistan to enforce rules and laws for any business group operating in Pakistan. We have tons of Chinese groups in US, never had any issues.

 

[nang2]

Are you an idiot? Like I said, many of the Mainland Chinese here are socially retarded.

If foreigners came to China to commit crimes, would you be cool with that? Or if they disrespected Chinese customs, would you be cool with that? You are seriously a dumbass like most of the Mainland Chinese posters here.

BTW, take that US flag out of your profile, you are obviously a Mainland Chinese FOB and not American in any sense.

No, but you may be an idiot. I never said I would be ok that some foreigners come to my country and do something disrepectful in my eyes. I only said this is not avoidable or you'd better live in a cocoon. Nobody will truly respect you though he may say so. Respect is earned and expecting that from a stranger is just naive.

 

[rott]

Do Chinese not understand the concept of respect? Cause it sure seems like it

Do you you treat all your guests the same way when they come to your house?

Btw, respect is gained not bought. It's seems like you're getting the concept all mixed up.