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LONDON: In a big blow to plans of colonizing the Red planet, scientists have confirmed that humans won't last more than 68 days in Mars with present day technology.

Researchers have said that an oppressive environment would suffocate the first settler within an estimated 68 days.

The non-profit company Mars One announced plans to establish the first human settlement on Mars by 2025.

Solar panel powered huts is expected to supply the colony's electricity, while a system to extract water from the soil would supply drinking water.

But engineers at MIT say the project may have to take a step back, at least to reconsider the mission's technical feasibility.

The MIT researchers developed a detailed settlement-analysis tool to assess the feasibility of the Mars One mission and found that new technologies will be needed to keep humans alive on Mars.

For example, if all food is obtained from locally grown crops, as Mars One envisions, the vegetation would produce unsafe levels of oxygen, which would set off a series of events that would eventually cause human inhabitants to suffocate.

To avoid this scenario, a system to remove excess oxygen would have to be implemented — a technology that has not yet been developed for use in space.

Similarly, the Mars Phoenix lander discovered evidence of ice on the Martian surface in 2008, suggesting that future settlers might be able to melt ice for drinking water — another Mars One goal.

But according to the MIT analysis, current technologies designed to bake water from soil are not yet ready for deployment, particularly in space.

The team also performed an integrated analysis of spare-parts resupply — how many spare parts would have to be delivered to a Martian colony at each opportunity to keep it going. The researchers found that as the colony grows, spare parts would quickly dominate future deliveries to Mars, making up as much as 62% of payloads from Earth.

As for the actual voyage to Mars, the team also calculated the number of rockets required to establish the first four settlers and subsequent crews on the planet, as well as the journey's cost.

According to the Mars One plan, six Falcon Heavy rockets would be required to send up initial supplies, before the astronauts' arrival.

But the MIT assessment found that number to be "overly optimistic".

The team determined that the needed supplies would instead require 15 Falcon Heavy rockets. The transportation cost for this leg of the mission alone, combined with the astronauts' launch, would be $4.5 billion — a cost that would grow with additional crews and supplies to Mars.

It would also take seven months to get to Mars each time.

Olivier de Weck, an MIT professor of aeronautics and astronautics and engineering systems says "We're not saying, black and white, Mars One is infeasible. But we do think it's not really feasible under the assumptions they've made. We're pointing to technologies that could be helpful to invest in with high priority, to move them along the feasibility path. One of the great insights we were able to get was just how hard it is to pull this mission off".

Graduate student Sydney Do simulated the day-to-day life of a Mars colonist.

Based on the typical work schedule, activity levels, and metabolic rates of astronauts on the International Space Station (ISS), Do estimated that a settler would have to consume about 3,040 calories daily to stay alive and healthy on Mars. He then determined crops that would provide a reasonably balanced diet, including beans, lettuce, peanuts, potatoes and rice.

Do calculated that producing enough of these crops to sustain astronauts over the long term would require about 200 square meters of growing area, compared with Mars One's estimate of 50 square meters. If, as the project plans, crops are cultivated within the settlers' habitat, Do found that they would produce unsafe levels of oxygen that would exceed fire safety thresholds, requiring continuous introduction of nitrogen to reduce the oxygen level.

Owens points to technologies such as 3-D printing, which may enable settlers to manufacture spare parts on Mars. But the technology as it exists today is not advanced enough to reproduce the exact dimensions and functions of many space-rated parts.

In 2012, the "Mars One" project, led by a Dutch non-profit, announced plans to establish the first human colony on the Red Planet by 2025. The mission would initially send four astronauts on a one-way trip to Mars, where they would spend the rest of their lives building the first permanent human settlement.

Less than the time spent in Big Boss's House!!
 
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LONDON: In a big blow to plans of colonizing the Red planet, scientists have confirmed that humans won't last more than 68 days in Mars with present day technology.
.......with present day technology.....
I believe, it's our destiny to colonize other planets.......one day we'll achieve immortality and then we'll have to do that......since the universe in infinite, there wouldn't be any issue...
 
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If Humans are up to the task to colonize Mars and any other planet then collectively they can develop the tech to live there, if they start it now then may be up to 2030 the tech be ready for deployment at Mars, but the point is does humans want to do it collectively?? sole nation may not be able to do it any time soon.
 
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If there is a village create size of a football field and covered with bubble canopy , it would be enough walking and stretching space to keep humans happy

Nuclear Energy Plants (Mini) would produce enough Oxygen from Atmosphere in Mars no need to worry


The football field size structure could be assembled over 6 years by continuous shipments of cube sized segments which robots would connect and piece toegther
 
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If there is a village create size of a football field and covered with bubble canopy , it would be enough walking and stretching space to keep humans happy

Nuclear Energy Plants (Mini) would produce enough Oxygen from Atmosphere in Mars no need to worry


The football field size structure could be assembled over 6 years by continuous shipments of cube sized segments which robots would connect and piece toegther

And then the alarm rang...didn't it?
 
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a system to remove excess oxygen

The Chinese invented the solution thousands of years ago.

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Sometimes I wonder what is the goal of all the scientific discoveries being made. I love science and tech myself but sometimes when I look at the condition of people around me I really don't understand it. Many people on this planet are suffering from poverty, many people are illiterate, many who are literate act like they are not, people are still being discriminated because of their race/nationality or their religion, so much crime is happening, we are using up resources on our planet faster than the planet can renew them, and then we go to find place outside the planet? why cant we make life in this planet better before looking at outside the space? Aren't we taught since we were young that for something to be successful, you need to set goals for it, well than what is the goal of all this?
 
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.......with present day technology.....
I believe, it's our destiny to colonize other planets.......one day we'll achieve immortality and then we'll have to do that......since the universe in infinite, there wouldn't be any issue...
"In universe, Everything has to end one day or another... we cant change that!!! Its only the matter that has immortality... changing from one form to another!!!"

Do I sound like an old man???
 
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"In universe, Everything has to end one day or another... we cant change that!!! Its only the matter that has immortality... changing from one form to another!!!"

Do I sound like an old man???
yeah you r old man. :P
 
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Don't think a Manned mission to Mars will happen until the 2060's. They might land a human on Mars in 2069 in honor of the 100th year anniversary of Man setting foot on the Moon.
 
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So Mars One is Done . :D

no... it is just some jealous american "establisment-researchers" trying to discredit the private and open mars one project... look at the three ways they have confirmed their reasoning... (a). some computer-based simulation tool, which in reality is as nonsense as weather-prediction supercomputers, (b). mathematically precise estimation of number of calories of food intake, whereas in reality, i don't accept mathematics to be always reliable in the real universe, (c). over-production of oxygen, which in reality can be redirected to some 3d printer based manufacturing process.

Don't think a Manned mission to Mars will happen until the 2060's. They might land a human on Mars in 2069 in honor of the 100th year anniversary of Man setting foot on the Moon.

2069 is too long... the space industry is simplifying spaceship technology and re-learning knowledge of space operations... look at how simple the spacex dragon v2 capsule is... so, settlement on a space object ( maybe another moon ) will happen by mid 2020's.
 
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