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Delusion... is indeed something you should understand yourself first...
Work with Russia to bring peace... Even Pro-ASSad don't even go this far...
Morality is indeed a cheap bargain nowadays...

This is because pseudo-scholar Imran N Hosein views the benchmark of being a "true Muslim" as one who is subservient to Russia, and not Allah swt. His anti-Turkism and anti-Pakistanism is no mystery to those who have studied him and his mindset.

Alhamdulilah most laugh this charlatan off for who he is.

The real issue is how to bring back dignity and respect to the people of Syria, who are now scattered all over Europe and the Levant. They should be able to move back into their homes without fear of any regime or foreign proxies.

Assad would never allow this, therefore the war must continue until he is gone.
 
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This is because pseudo-scholar Imran N Hosein views the benchmark of being a "true Muslim" as one who is subservient to Russia, and not Allah swt. His anti-Turkism and anti-Pakistanism is no mystery to those who have studied him and his mindset.

Alhamdulilah most laugh this charlatan off for who he is.

The real issue is how to bring back dignity and respect to the people of Syria, who are now scattered all over Europe and the Levant. They should be able to move back into their homes without fear of any regime or foreign proxies.

Assad would never allow this, therefore the war must continue until he is gone.

Pseudo-scholar is already too respectful for such individual.

As for Syria, there is one Solution, the End of ASSad, whatever by Force or by "Supporters" decision of removing him...
Dissolution of every militia/armed groups in BOTH sides, Putting in place an Interim Gov till a fair and controlled Election and then things may be back to normal...
But Unfortunately... neither ASSad will step back nor "Supporters" will come to a common solution...

What is left is that One side need to win...
 
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I will just post this message here :

There is no war between shia and sunnis.

The war is between Turks/Arabs/Persians/Russians/Europeans/Americans/Israel.

But coincidentally it happens that some are Shia, some are Sunnis, some are Christians, and some are Jewish.

But all are using religion as tool for their agenda. Unfortunately many are fool enough to be fooled easily.

My two Anays ki analysis.
 
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Erdogan have gone mad or something. Why is he sacrificing Turkish Serviceman in this lost cause?. Targeting Kurds is one thing. But directly confronting Syrian Government and Russian forces head on without NATO Support. Turkish forces are outnumbered in Idlib, unless they don't have air support this is pure madness.
Unless Turkey declares war on Syria, It cannot use its air force over Idlib as Russian and Syrian Air defenses can easily shot down Turkish planes unless Turkey targets the air defenses which of course will be a war deceleration as it is Syrian air and land space not Turkish.
Much better option would have been joining hands with Russian and Syrian Forces and teaming up against Kurds.
A year ago. Turkey Russia and Syria were both against PKK who were backed by the Americans and Israelis.
And now Turkey is alone. USA left the picture laughing while Russia Syria are getting closer to the kurds. Nice move Mr Erdogan. What do Turkish Government thinks? It can brute force its way into Syria defeating Syrian and Russian Forces and then resettle Syrian Refugees there and make Idlib a quasi Independent State?
Now either keep burning Turkish Tax payer money on this uphill battle against Russia and Syria. Or stop this skirmish and then face the wrath of Al-Qaeda on your own soil for abandoning them.
USA and Israel will be so happy to see what is happening
 
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I will just post this message here :

There is no war between shia and sunnis.

The war is between Turks/Arabs/Persians/Russians/Europeans/Americans/Israel.

But coincidentally it happens that some are Shia, some are Sunnis, some are Christians, and some are Jewish.

But all are using religion as tool for their agenda. Unfortunately many are fool enough to be fooled easily.

My two Anays ki analysis.
Your TWO ANNAY ka Analysis is spot on. But it will go over the heads of 90% of Muslims Unfortunately.
 
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I will just post this message here :

There is no war between shia and sunnis.

The war is between Turks/Arabs/Persians/Russians/Europeans/Americans/Israel.

But coincidentally it happens that some are Shia, some are Sunnis, some are Christians, and some are Jewish.

But all are using religion as tool for their agenda. Unfortunately many are fool enough to be fooled easily.

My two Anays ki analysis.
unfortunately, hamara Turk bhai vahi galti kar raha han ...jo ham na 79 ma ki thee... allah sab ko hidayat daa..
 
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I will just post this message here :

There is no war between shia and sunnis.

The war is between Turks/Arabs/Persians/Russians/Europeans/Americans/Israel.

But coincidentally it happens that some are Shia, some are Sunnis, some are Christians, and some are Jewish.

But all are using religion as tool for their agenda. Unfortunately many are fool enough to be fooled easily.

My two Anays ki analysis.

Turkey was baited into Syria by PKK. All the other parties you mentioned have been supporting PKK one way or another.

US and Russia have both been playing double games with Turkey.

For Turkey, this has now become about survival. What you do not understand is that PKK has killed 100,000 + Turkish citizens over the years, most of them Kurds.

There are two choices, either Turkey accepts growing PKK (being fed by Russia, US, Germany, France, Israel, Iran, Assad, etc.) Or Turkey takes the action now to weaken and put on defensive the PKK threat.

Turkey and the Turkish nation have taken the resolve to finishing the battle with the PKK, and if Assad acts as a supporter for the PKK, then him as well.

All commenting do not understand the nexus of PKK which the West is trying to build in the region stretching from Syria, Iraq, to Iran.
 
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people are way too caught up in whos a "better muslim".. and cheering for a side based on that

absolutely ridiculous... the first thing one must look at with any issue is justice and righteousness...

turkey is in the wrong here whatever way you want to objectively look at it...

just ask yourself this... if there was a dispute between a muslim and Christian in the prophets time. and the Christian was in the right and the muslim was being a crook... whos side do you think the prophet would have taken??

a true muslim is one who looks at righteousness..

Turkey betrayed Syria.. from assad and erdo being "brothers" to a 180 of erdo trying to kill assad and his family and trying to pray in the umayad mosque... allying with Zionists, americans and Persian gulf arabs….

now Turkish troops are illegally in syrian territory.. and what happens to them there, is 100% with erdo and the Turkish leadership that sent them to that death trap.
 
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Turks need to immediately re asses situation and strategy

They are against battle hardened fighters who have been fighting for 10 years . .I wont take them easy on tech only
 
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Pseudo-scholar is already too respectful for such individual.

As for Syria, there is one Solution, the End of ASSad, whatever by Force or by "Supporters" decision of removing him...
Dissolution of every militia/armed groups in BOTH sides, Putting in place an Interim Gov till a fair and controlled Election and then things may be back to normal...
But Unfortunately... neither ASSad will step back nor "Supporters" will come to a common solution...

What is left is that One side need to win...
Funny for Syria you don't even consider let Syrian decide if they want Assad or they don't want him.
 
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Turks need to immediately re asses situation and strategy

They are against battle hardened fighters who have been fighting for 10 years . .I wont take them easy on tech only
ASSad force are battle hardened... That's an Oxymore my friend... an Oxymore...
ASSad without Air support are what we call "Headless Chickens"...
THEY NEVER WON A SINGLE BATTLE without the heavy support from the Air... Never.
In the Latest Op... Rebels were inside the city in less than an Hour... Till the Russians came along and Airstrikes the area for hours... Killing in the meantime 2 TR Soldiers... and many Armored vehicles. That pushed What remains to retreat...

And the Witness for such incompetence comes from the Mouth of their own "Real" COmmanders, be it Russia or Iran... Even Suleiman who died recently in Iraq...mocked ASSad forces...

Funny for Syria you don't even consider let Syrian decide if they want Assad or they don't want him.
They did... and ASSad didn't like it... and here we are today...
But that you know... I mean... you guys tried in your own country... But they painted your streets red...
Always interesting to hear "Morality of choice" from someone living in a Dictatorship...
How's your fake elections btw? Where are the queues? Hospital or Voting areas?
 
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ASSad force are battle hardened... That's an Oxymore my friend... an Oxymore...
ASSad without Air support are what we call "Headless Chicken"...
THEY NEVER WON A SINGLE BATTLE without the heavy support from the Air... Never.
In the Latest Op... Rebels were inside the city in less than an Hour... Till the Russians came along and Airstrikes the area for hours... Killing in the meantime 2 TR Soldiers... and many Armored vehicles. That pushed What remains to retreat...

And the Witness for such incompetence comes from the Mouth of their own "Real" COmmanders, be it Russia or Iran... Even Suleiman who did recently in Iraq...mocked ASSad forces...


Agreed but then don't go on offensive till u can secure the air... Caz no matter what u do on ground will be lost to air . . Thats one lesson to learn
 
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Agreed but then don't go on offensive till u can secure the air... Caz no matter what u do on ground will be lost to air . . Thats one lesson to learn
Ofc... No Air support, you are at a disadvantage.
But my take was on your "battle Hardened" comments on them... That is false. They are among the worst fighter in the region... They are used as cannon fodders... sent to die to push the lines... and let the Pros (Pro IR/RU soldiers) control the battlefield...

Agreed but then don't go on offensive till u can secure the air... Caz no matter what u do on ground will be lost to air . . Thats one lesson to learn
Do you want the latest ASSad incompetence...
Here the Q... Who will win btw a Tank and an Unarmed ACV (armored combat vehicle)?
Want the answer...here enjoy...

If only you followed the Conflict carefully... You wouldn't believe your own eyes...

 
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Ofc... No Air support, you are at a disadvantage.
But my take was on your "battle Hardened" comments on them... That is false. They are among the worst fighter in the region... They are used as cannon fodders... sent to die to push the lines... and let the Pros (Pro IR/RU soldiers) control the battlefield...


Do you want the latest ASSad incompetence...
Here the Q... Who will win btw a Tank and an Unarmed ACV (armored combat vehicle)?
Want the answer...here enjoy...

If only you followed the Conflict carefully... You wouldn't believe your own eyes...



I take battle hardened comments back
 
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Turkey was baited into Syria by PKK. All the other parties you mentioned have been supporting PKK one way or another.

US and Russia have both been playing double games with Turkey.

For Turkey, this has now become about survival. What you do not understand is that PKK has killed 100,000 + Turkish citizens over the years, most of them Kurds.

There are two choices, either Turkey accepts growing PKK (being fed by Russia, US, Germany, France, Israel, Iran, Assad, etc.) Or Turkey takes the action now to weaken and put on defensive the PKK threat.

Turkey and the Turkish nation have taken the resolve to finishing the battle with the PKK, and if Assad acts as a supporter for the PKK, then him as well.

All commenting do not understand the nexus of PKK which the West is trying to build in the region stretching from Syria, Iraq, to Iran.

Thanks. Yes I forgot the Kurds.
 
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