Huge Turkish and HTS casualties in failed attack

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

well , I know your history in some extend , I know The Ghazanavid , Timurid , and other turkish rules effect on Pakistan , but you guys are claiming some strong ties with Ottoman while you have not this kind of ties with them ....

hell you have more ties with centeral asia than Anatolian Turks ....

Why are you so concerned about our good ties with Turks for 1,000+ years?

Iranians and Arabs are so concerned when Pakistanis show interest in Turkey and Turkish history, which we are also a part of due to our past empires.

Spirit of Islam and historical outlook/mission of Turkey and Pakistan is the exact same. We are both successor states of two of the strongest Muslim empires in history, bordering the peripheries of the Muslim heartland in Arabia and the Near East. Both of us bear the ire of Islamophobic regimes and civilizations on the outskirts of the Muslim world.

your obsession is false , and you are in wrong path ....

We support anyone who supports Islam and Muslims, who fights against the forces of Kufr and wickedness, to bring honor and pride back to the Muslim world. Ideologies of Turkey and Pakistan are one and the same.

and don't act like we are in debt of Pakistan ... we did directly help you in your war with India but never you dared to help us back ....

Iran obviously doesn't feel this way anymore as it is actively supporting India against Pakistan (Chahbahar,) and promoting anti-Pakistan groups in Afghanistan.

For us, Iran is now an enemy state. It does not matter about previous relationships when we helped each other. Feb 27 Qasem Solemani's concerted pressure/threats, ANA Kabulie skirmishes, and coordinated Indian failed attack was proof enough.

as you can read in above link , our help is direct and fair but Pakistan activly had hand in killing Shia and act against Iran ... while your claims about Iran arming shia group is biased and un proven ....

I don't doubt what you posted, we used to be allies. You also did not post all of Pakistan's help to Iran, but then again you can easily find that information. Like all Wikipedia sources, they have to be taken with a grain of salt.

The Shia stuff in Afghanistan however is merely Iranian propaganda. Pakistan was not directly involved in Afghanistan as you posted.

 

[OldTwilight]

Why are you so concerned about our good ties with Turks for 1,000+ years?

Iranians and Arabs are so concerned when Pakistanis show interest in Turkey and Turkish history, which we are also a part of due to our past empires.

Spirit of Islam and historical outlook/mission of Turkey and Pakistan is the exact same. We are both successor states of two of the strongest Muslim empires in history, bordering the peripheries of the Muslim heartland in Arabia and the Near East. Both of us bear the ire of Islamophobic regimes and civilizations on the outskirts of the Muslim world.



We support anyone who supports Islam and Muslims, who fights against the forces of Kufr and wickedness, to bring honor and pride back to the Muslim world. Ideologies of Turkey and Pakistan are one and the same.



Iran obviously doesn't feel this way anymore as it is actively supporting India against Pakistan (Chahbahar,) and promoting anti-Pakistan groups in Afghanistan.

For us, Iran is now an enemy state. It does not matter about previous relationships when we helped each other. Feb 27 Qasem Solemani's concerted pressure/threats, ANA Kabulie skirmishes, and coordinated Indian failed attack was proof enough.



I don't doubt what you posted, we used to be allies. You also did not post all of Pakistan's help to Iran, but then again you can easily find that information. Like all Wikipedia sources, they have to be taken with a grain of salt.

The Shia stuff in Afghanistan however is merely Iranian propaganda. Pakistan was not directly involved in Afghanistan as you posted.

Im not concerned , I have to stay at home because of Corona virus ... I'm bored , so I spend my time here ...

 

[gwangju.khan]

I don't understand why Iran even supports Assad. Their militia network over the middle east is destructive enough, but to put the cherry on the top they support the Ba'athist butcher in Syria(even tho he likes russia over iranians) just because he is an Alawi

 

[Nein]

I don't understand why Iran even supports Assad. Their militia network over the middle east is destructive enough, but to put the cherry on the top they support the Ba'athist butcher in Syria(even tho he likes russia over iranians) just because he is an Alawi

Fun Fact: twelver shias consider alawites to be heretics.

Irans support of Assad is not just sectratarian but also political. To the twelvers its better to have a heretic than a Sunni ruled Syria. The heretic would at least be a puppet to Iranian interests in the Middle East.

 

[OldTwilight]

Fun Fact: twelver shias consider alawites to be heretics.

Irans support of Assad is not just sectratarian but also political. To the twelvers its better to have a heretic than a Sunni ruled Syria. The heretic would at least be a puppet to Iranian interests in the Middle East.

Actuall fact , we don't consider killing other base our own religious view ...

 

[925boy]

I don't understand why Iran even supports Assad.

The answer is right in front of all of us, you can use geography as a clue. If you truly want to understand, you can, but if you already have a preconceived notion AKA confirmation bias and dont want to change it, then you'll keep seeing what you want to see. Iran simply values having access to both Lebanon(main protege), and Israel(main enemy) for national strategic interests and value. Why those are Iran's priorities, i think is a different discussion.

 

[gwangju.khan]

The answer is right in front of all of us, you can use geography as a clue. If you truly want to understand, you can, but if you already have a preconceived notion AKA confirmation bias and dont want to change it, then you'll keep seeing what you want to see. Iran simply values having access to both Lebanon(main protege), and Israel(main enemy) for national strategic interests and value. Why those are Iran's priorities, i think is a different discussion.

Israel, the mortal enemy who they have not touched since 2006.

There is no desperate need to connect to Israel, Israel is simply used as an excuse to justify an Empire over the Middle East. This means expanding Iranian influence with the use of Shiite militias. But a Ba'athist stronghold in Syria is little gain for a lot of sacrifice, because even after all this support, the Assad family is looking to limit ties to Iran in order to normalize ties with UAE/Saudi and accept their aid for reconstruction efforts. Ba'athists are inherently incompatible with khomeinism and Alawis are mostly atheists wary of Twelver Shi'ism

 

[gwangju.khan]

except for the isis flag and the ottoman thing

this image is pretty based ngl

bring back a sultanate lol

 

[Timur]

shia and their twisted worldview

 

[bsruzm]

Baath regime is legal and its chosen by people's votes(one of few democracies in Muslim world) while your proxies like ISIS and al Nusra are known as terrorists.

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Have you seen it in Simpsons? Lol

 

[Aramagedon]

Have you seen it in Simpsons? Lol

Only watched some parts of it which is about american wickedness like 9/11.

 

[Nein]

Actuall fact , we don't consider killing other base our own religious view ...

Shias have no problem in killing Sunnis thats a fact.

We seen this in iraq, syria and yemen.

Baath regime is legal and its chosen by people's votes(one of few democracies in Muslim world) while your proxies like ISIS and al Nusra are known as terrorists.

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Turks and Syrians are Sunni Muslims sorry but we are not wahabis or isis pricks.

Sorry your dumb picture does not work. Us Turks fought wahabis many times you shias barely fought them apart from butchering sunnis in syria, iraq and yemen.