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Turkey is in a difficult situation now, but it's one of their own making. Russia has upped the ante and made quite clear that Idlib is not up for negotiation. Erdogan better take whatever symbolic concession Russia is willing to offer and order a retreat. NATO will not go to war with Russia so that Turkey can exert control over a terrorist-infested area of Syria. By themselves, they are no match for Russia, Syria and Iranian-backed forces combined.
 
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Wow. Russia has basically told Turkey it's either all out war or Turkey retreats.

Putin earlier ignored Erdogan's calls for a meeting. This was Putin's response. Devastating.

RIP to the Turkish soldiers. I can't believe Russia went this far.
Turkey basically used her army as shield and canon fodder for some unreliable Alqaede terrorists and they are doing it openly .... Jullani is officiall delegate of Al Qaded in Syria ....


Erdogan action is just helping Arab countries to normalize their relationship with Syria
 
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Turkey basically used her army as shield and canon fodder for some unreliable Alqaede terrorists and they are doing it openly .... Jullani is officiall delegate of Al Qaded in Syria ....


Erdogan action is just helping Arab countries to normalize their relationship with Syria

I can't believe the lack of tactics or strategy from one of the best armed forces in the world. This isn't a one-off incident, just the worst one. The Russians have been killing them regularly since the day they arrived. Sitting ducks.
 
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Turkey is in a difficult situation now, but it's one of their own making. Russia has upped the ante and made quite clear that Idlib is not up for negotiation. Erdogan better take whatever symbolic concession Russia is willing to offer and order a retreat. NATO will not go to war with Russia so that Turkey can exert control over a terrorist-infested area of Syria. By themselves, they are no match for Russia, Syria and Iranian-backed forces combined.
I rolled my eyes so hard at this.

There is no reason for Turkey to retreat. If anything, turkey can (and should) start bombing syrian positions, and guess what? Russia won't do a thing to stop turkey. They can't do a thing to stop Turkey, without risking a war.

Even if NATO doesn't get involved, nato nations can and will back turkey in their fight against russia, if russia and Turkey start fighting.
 
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I can't believe the lack of tactics or strategy from one of the best armed forces in the world. This isn't a one-off incident, just the worst one. The Russians have been killing them regularly since the day they arrived. Sitting ducks.
Well , Turks were fighting with some rag tag militia in their country .... Now the real one is in front of them ....

Although I wouldn't call this Russian detachment in Syria as real army ....

Syrian army itself still didn't enter in direct conflict with Turkey ....

Iran is not interested in this conflict or else Turkey armor division will get much more stronger punch than what KSA army received in Yemen ... And Yemen is besieged but we have free hand in Syria
 
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I rolled my eyes so hard at this.

There is no reason for Turkey to retreat. If anything, turkey can (and should) start bombing syrian positions, and guess what? Russia won't do a thing to stop turkey. They can't do a thing to stop Turkey, without risking a war.

Even if NATO doesn't get involved, nato nations can and will back turkey in their fight against russia, if russia and Turkey start fighting.

Russia won't and can't do a thing to stop Turkey? They seem to be doing a pretty good job of exactly that right now. Turkey, by itself, is no match for Russia alone.
 
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I rolled my eyes so hard at this.

There is no reason for Turkey to retreat. If anything, turkey can (and should) start bombing syrian positions, and guess what? Russia won't do a thing to stop turkey. They can't do a thing to stop Turkey, without risking a war.

Even if NATO doesn't get involved, nato nations can and will back turkey in their fight against russia, if russia and Turkey start fighting.

Nato can support , but if Turkey is wise , she would try to solve the p
Russia won't and can't do a thing to stop Turkey? They seem to be doing a pretty good job of exactly that right now. Turkey, by itself, is no match for Russia alone.
This American want to encourage Turkey to start a war for nothing and just ruin both Russia and Turkey in process

The Israelis have same agenda as well
 
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Politics and Erdoğan decision dictate it. The army does as told. Unbelievable sending an army without air support. They are doing more than they can with just artillery support.
I can't believe the lack of tactics or strategy from one of the best armed forces in the world. This isn't a one-off incident, just the worst one. The Russians have been killing them regularly since the day they arrived. Sitting ducks.
 
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Neither US nor Russia is god, Afghans proved these Kuffar can be defeated. Dignity and Self-respect is worth it.

We are all behind Turks. Kick out these Kuffar invaders, PKK terrorists, and bring justice for Syrians.
 
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Neither US nor Russia is god, Afghans proved these Kuffar can be defeated. Dignity and Self-respect is worth it.

We are all behind Turks. Kick out these Kuffar invaders, PKK terrorists, and bring justice for Syrians.
The problem is that you guys are behind them while calling for war ... In fact you want the turks do the fighting while you have your normal life ...
 
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Neither US nor Russia is god, Afghans proved these Kuffar can be defeated. Dignity and Self-respect is worth it.

We are all behind Turks. Kick out these Kuffar invaders, PKK terrorists, and bring justice for Syrians.

Neither is Iran or Turkey these are nations at the end of the day however some Pakistanis or over zelalous types would prefer to see fighting between Muslims states like Syria and Turkey to further their keyboard egos lets be frank none of here "actually" really know or care whats with the Syrians, I feel bad but that's different, and like I said we dont have an actual SYRIAN here just other people living in their respective countries or living abroad in the west who have a warped view of the conflict,kinda a shame the SYRIAN story is being told by foreigners and foreign owned outlets like RT,TRT or Press TV I say take all sides with grain of salt

The problem is that you guys are behind them while calling for war ... In fact you want the turks do the fighting while you move you are having your life ...

Iran is no angel either in this conflict, but let there be no mistake this is a proxy war and each nation involved be it Turkey,Iran,Syrian Regime,Syria Opposition in exile/Idlib,Kurds,Russia,and America will peddle their narrative to a already "molded" audience to curry support nothing new in the 90s during the First Iraq War was called the video game war for a reason the war was watched on CNN and it was like video game fast forward to 2020 its more of interactive 3d video game where you can see graphic content from the war zones and folks from all sides make memes and poke fun of each other, sick world we become
 
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