Huge number of MaxxPro MRAPs delivered to Pakistan Army

[Cornered Tiger]

AOA,

Pakistan is manufacturing Talha and its Variants at HIT Taxila and also Planning to Produce APC's at Suparco and APC Talha is basically Assembled in Pakistan on M113, M113A2, M113A2MK designs etc.
Why we had to buy from US some OLD scrapped machinery which was Refurbished and Repainted in Korea in Expensive Price?..

Why cant we ensure that the Product We manufacture in HIT is up to the required standards and ensure that where HIT claims to Put B7 or B6 or B5 Armour Protected Plates and Glass its is the same and not substandard due to corrupt procurement/commercial and technical practices.

Since the Machinery Assembled in Pakistan is all Imported from Various US/UK Part Manufacturers or NSN Part suppliers Why cant Pakistan simply get the US OEM Cage List from Department of Defense (If they claim to have such great US-PAK relations) and just Produce Better Products themselves in much cheaper Price

Also Please do let me know why isn't Pakistan Buying The 5th or 6th or 7th Generation Technology from US and why we are stuck to 2nd and 3rd Generation Machinery and Equipment which was discarded by US in early 60's?

Pakistani produced Al-Talha APC is of the same standard as of the M-113A2 of US Origin. We have a Rebuilt Factory as well at Taxilla where we rebuilt the US Origin M-Series Vehicles. So We are purchasing older M-113APCs at very low prices and rebuilding here at HIT, which makes up a good number at the end and with less price in-comparison to build new Al-Talha.

M-113A2s are not that bad, We will move onto next generations, But we need a proper infrastructure for that and cost to acquire, operate and maintain them. So it will take time. At first we need to keep up the good numbers against Indians.

The UAVs in this List are also the type which are neither combat purpose nor can be converted/used for it and can only used to observe an area. The type which Pakistan Alhamdolillah is capable of manufacturing our self. (indigenous)

Why is it that we cant ask USA for MQ-9 Reaper or if not that at least the second inferior generation of the UAV or ask Turkey our Friend country to Provide us with their version of Equivalent UAV to US Latest Generation UAV'S with capacity to take heavy Payload and be used in Combat along with extreme surveillance and survey purposes

Did we forget that turkey has the most superior Air defense Technology, system, equipment and Manufacturing in whole of Europe??

There is not only one purpose of UAVs i.e. Combat. There are much more roles that can be assigned to UAVs. ScanEagle UAVs are capable to operate from Naval Ships & they are meant for Pakistan Navy.

 

[Signalian]

Every PDF member hates M-113 in PA

@Ulla Your views are shared by many here. I dare not tag Zarvan even though i can argue in favour of M-113 and PA Mechanised Infantry doctrine

 

[Fawad alam]

MRPS can be made dysfunctional anywhere on earth, must be bugged, their movement would be known in advance to terrorists/ Indians.

Dear if they do like this, then No body will buy anything from US again.

 

[ali_raza]

flying apc with rockets engine

 

[RealNapster]

flying apc with rockets engine

FZR 2000.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Who will make sure that those MRPs are not used against US interests?

ISIS will help US keep a check on every country. Pet are kept for this purpose.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Its very much a possibility. Jokes apart.
A number of vehicles were procured during Musharraf era. They were opened only to find a homing device in a sealed component. So...?

Maybe few are... but it's more on the software side... if any "bugging" is done.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Pakistan govt. should equip its hard working soldiers, bit better.

That soldier isn't full equipped; he just posed for a picture with a rifle and some rigs.

 

[A.M.]

ISIS will help US keep a check on every country. Pet are kept for this purpose.

When you're lights go out, do you blame CIA or mossad?

 

[Cool_Soldier]

Good to Know that we got deliveries. such vehicles are very much needed in Western border on current situation.
In case of threat could be useful on Eastern Border too.

 

[ExiledHawk]

There is not only one purpose of UAVs i.e. Combat. There are much more roles that can be assigned to UAVs. ScanEagle UAVs are capable to operate from Naval Ships & they are meant for Pakistan Navy.

Off course they are Used for a lot of applications however those UAVs which can even fly upto 40,000 ft or above and carry versatile payloads are now manufactured in Pakistan and can be used for multiple military purpose e.g. surveillance and general surveys and signal jamming/communication etc.
NESCOM, SATUMA Integrated Dynamics and quite a few more producers are producing the drones indigenous in Pakistan which already serve the purpose which the Procured UAVs provide, then why not buy the Types we are for now not manufacturing. If USA is not providing these to Pakistan Why not look at Turkey? or Russia who have already lifted various military embargoes off Pakistan and are most willing to make government to government Sales. Or Ask China support to develop such UAVs to achieve goals which we are unable to for now.

If i Remember Pakistan was not asking for surveillance drones during US Invasion of Afghanistan they asked for Combat UAV's which at that time USA Declined. Under current circumstances when CEPEC is successfully moving into the direction of 2020 and 2025 Targets we must have Combat UAV's to Support our Military forces.

What you wrote above please also translate it into English so i can understand, also you may think its a Joke but SUPARCO is already Manufacturing Armour Protected Vehicles as well along with what you call Rockets and they planned to develop APC back in 2010, (who knows my info is outdated and they might be already producing M113 variants right now)
live in dreams Napster ... we may be cruising way ahead of your imagination when your dream is over :>

 

[CT-9914 "Snoop"]

SIPRI 2016 Data shows that Pakistan Army has took possession of 230 MaxxPro MRAPs.

Well if you believe SIPRI then we received 50 Walker Bulldog tanks in 1954-55.

 

[WarFariX]

SIPRI 2016 Data shows that Pakistan Army has took possession of 230 MaxxPro MRAPs.

Deliveries of 15 x ScanEagle UAVs, second hand 1050 x M-113A2 APCs, 15 x AAQ-33 Sniper Pods, 4 x Cessna-208 and 4 x Cessna U206 are also completed by United States.

MRPS Aside ...why 15 sniper pods for ?? any idea @Oscar @Horus ?

 

[Path-Finder]

MRPS Aside ...why 15 sniper pods for ?? any idea @Oscar @Horus ?

For F16's Targeting Pod

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

At the least, PR wise these beasts look more serious compared to Toyota trucks, which are also used by proxies like ISIS etc..