How will the system work IF Imran khan is back. Bureaucracy will let them what IK want??

[VCheng]

He should come back more mature, and ideally without making a messy coalition comprised of turncoats and establishment pets. He says he wants a 2/3s majority, but that’s not realistic in the current political context.

Hence, he’ll have to work around the current system. Which means operating within the confines of the constitution, not being able to centralise power due to the 18th (IMO this is a good thing for every province). And being subject to the usual legal review, and parliamentary and senate arithmetic.

One thing he will need to humble himself to do and which he has been very resistant to, is acting like a member of parliament. He is elected as an MNA into it, and from it he may be elected as PM. So far he’s shown a disliking for parliament, he only ever shows up if he’s got absolutely no choice, otherwise he sees it as beneath him - this has to change in the long run. All PMs must run the show via parliament, and in the end this also speaks to having enough of a presence in the NA to be able to pass bills as opposed to being heavily reliant on time constrained ordinances, although I see that he had no choice in the latter in his last run as PM.

Given the nature of the personalities involved, and the system that they all must work within, the likelihood of any of that happening is between zero and nil.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

Simply, pass a law that public officers just like politicians can't be dual nationals, also their spouse and dependents can't be one either.

Then a certain grade officer above or ones in executive or power position across the board, can't have foreign properties either on their, their spouse or dependents name, else it will disqualify them to be eligible for that position.

Once gained majority in senate, then pass amendments such as:

Traceable or Evm traceable ballot senate chairman etc. elections, maybe elections by public vote for senate seats too.

President and governor to be directly elected by public vote

Also, president's power increased like ordinance for 6 months and can be extended.

Needed 18th Amendment reforms, don't reverse it but centralise the needed subjects like Education, Sports etc.

Needed electoral reforms

Needed judicial reforms

Reshaping and restructuring of NAB and appointments, also FBR

and so many ideas..

 

[VCheng]

Simply, pass a law that public officers just like politicians can't be dual nationals, also their spouse and dependents can't be one either.

Passing laws is easy in Pakistan. Actually implementing them effectively is anything but.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

Passing laws is easy in Pakistan. Actually implementing them effectively is anything but.

Hence judicial reforms to ensure ppl sitting ensure rule of law.

 

[VCheng]

Hence judicial reforms to ensure ppl sitting ensure rule of law.

Ah yes. Thank you making it all look so simple.

 

[R Wing]

keeping in mind previous 3.5 years of IK govt it seems if they come back even with 2/3 they will not be able to correct the system which is corrupt to its core.
I have some questions
1. Judiciary (it will remain same you cant change whole system )(as for as i know)(Nawaz installed judges are example)
2. Bureaucracy ( it seams Punjab govt which installed its judges and officers at higher post will not let PTI work efficiently.) we already witnessed
3. Electable( it still looks PTI may be depending on electable for 2/3 (specially central Punjab , and Balochistan (sardari system) interior Sindh( and they are immensely corrupt and have no fear of impeachment)
4. Establishment (will they let it go that easy?? they had been ruling us since 65 i think or may be from the start)


your views ??

If IK understands history, he will know that only a totally new nizam/constitution order can save us. It's nearly impossible to 'fix' institutional design once incentives and vested interests are entrenched.

With 2/3rds, his focus should be on passing laws that make sweeping structural changes. It will all be legal, and he will have the people's mandate behind him.

 

[Ssan]

The last senate elections were held last year March 2021. They are held every 3 years , so if PTI gets elected now with 2/3rds majority it will take them 5 years to transfer said majority to senate sufficiently that they can make constitutional amendments

 

[Rank]

If IK will return winning elections his hands shall still be tied.
But if he wins by 2/3, then He can take these two steps:

1. Constitutional changes to bring presidential system.
2. Make smaller manageable provinces. This will break bureauocracy linkages.

Smaller provinces will bring huge socioeconomic changes.

First of all IK should kill this shit 18 amendment

 

[SD 10]

make a list off all the officers that has worked for pmln and remove them from their posts.... make sure they are made an example off and bureaucracy will be good, anyone who tries to help these crooks, fire them too . There are plenty of fresh, younger people in need of jobs who will serve the government with better determination and loyalty!

 

[imadul]

First of all IK should kill this shit 18 amendment

NA should debate it and then make necessary amendments. Remember, though 18 amendment has given provinces lots of power, it was army that was against it. After what Neutrals did, IK won't be going to scrap it completely.

 

[Olympus81]

My argument is 18th Ammendment is fine, but the provinces need to be tasked with raising their own funds.

Create around 15-20 provinces and devolve further.

 

[s@@d]

make a list off all the officers that has worked for pmln and remove them from their posts.... make sure they are made an example off and bureaucracy will be good, anyone who tries to help these crooks, fire them too . There are plenty of fresh, younger people in need of jobs who will serve the government with better determination and loyalty!

The thing is its not only punjab. Bureaucracy all around Pakistan is very shitty.
1. sindh is full of PPP plus MQM supported or brought Officers. they wont work effectively ..
2. Balochistan again very corrupt officer plus very nalaiq.. who even cant speak urdu . ..
3. KPK is a little better i would say 10% better than others . but the FATA region commissioners are very very corrupt.
4. punjab ka to ALLAAH he hafiz hai.