How useful are ground based launchers like Bakter Shiken on a Navy asset ?

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Effects of 84 mm Carl Gustav recoilless rifle shells on Drummond class corvette (built in France based on the A69 D'Estienne d'Orves-class avisos):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nians-disabled-warship-eve-Falklands-War.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_South_Georgia#ARA_Guerrico

Carl Gustaf recoilless rifle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_recoilless_rifle
Baktar Shikan is based on Chinese 'Red Arrow' HJ-8.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HJ-8

Baktar Shikan would be a heavier missile and warhead than Carl Gustav, with more range and it would be guided (as opposed to unguided). Go figure that it could do more in such a scenario.

Still, much depends on the scenario. If you need ship-to-shore, then why not. Ship to ship is a different matter. Ship to air is impossible with this, realistically.

HEAT rounds just punch small hole, not much damage. You need an anti bunker warhead (HJ-8F) or thermobaric warhead (HJ-8FAE) to do more damage to a ship. HJ-8S - Variant with an anti ship warhead.

http://fdra.blogspot.nl/2015/04/atgm-hj-8-china.html

Carl Gustav also uses a range of rounds

M1A2 hit by an RPG-7 [presumably HEAT] to the turret side: almost complete penetration.
Most of the spaced armour plates had to be replaced. Note small size of hole.

Result of a 100/120 mm HEAT shell penetrating 1000 mm of RHA (Rolled homogeneous armour. The jet of molten metal burns through steel in a very narrow channel.

This is the hole a HEAT warhead makes when it hits a structure --- you couldn't fit more than three fingers into it;

Informative post always was curious why such land based solutions were never used in sea scenario

 

[Penguin]

Informative post always was curious why such land based solutions were never used in sea scenario

You have to realize, in the Falklands, the limits posed by Carl Gustav rifle's effective firing range:

• 300–500 m against vehicles
• 700 m against stationary targets
• 1000 m against stationary targets w/rocket-boosted ammunition

Versus a ship equipped with 100 mm/55 Mod.1968 dual purpose gun and Bofors 40 mm L/60 AA cannon.

100mm/55 Mod. 1968
Rate of fire 78 round/min
Effective firing range 17,000 m (elevation 40°)
Maximum practical range:

• 6,000 m against aerial targets
• 12,000 m against surface targets

Bofors 40/L60
Rate of fire L/60: 120 round/min
Maximum firing range L/60: 7,160 m (23,490 ft)

That's pretty brave/deperate ;-)

 

[The Accountant]

I think it will be not be effective mainly due to range as anti tank missile are short ranged and you cannot get close enough without taking hit by yourslf ... almost all modern ships are armed with antiship missiles with 100kms plus range

I was just curious to know the usefulness of such Anti Tank Missiles on a Navy asset like a ship / or boat

Tank's armor is different then the Navy ship , however Water damage on ship even from a small opening can mean bad news for the Ship

Can anyone elaborate on effectiveness of a Baktershiken like Missile launched from Ship's surface towards another Ship always wanted to know this answer

Quite a handly little thing

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Another good note about why Land based solution may not be ideal at seas as case with Land based items like Baktar Shiken etc

 

[Soldier-Boy]

I was just curious to know the usefulness of such Anti Tank Missiles on a Navy asset like a ship / or boat

Tank's armor is different then the Navy ship , however Water damage on ship even from a small opening can mean bad news for the Ship

Can anyone elaborate on effectiveness of a Baktershiken like Missile launched from Ship's surface towards another Ship always wanted to know this answer

Quite a handly little thing

Range is not quite enough for Navy to target out of sight surface ships but it could be fixed to Cargo ships because it would prove quite good against pirates.

 

[The Accountant]

Range is not quite enough for Navy to target out of sight surface ships but it could be fixed to Cargo ships because it would prove quite good against pirates.

Cargo ships are not allowed with any big fire arm not even machine guns