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How to develop Karachi? Do not vote for MQM and PPP

For Nawaz Sharif Pakistan starts from Islamabad and end at Raiwand through Motorway and Karachi doesnt even Exist anywhere in between.

Hi,

And what Nawaz is doing---he is doing it intentionally. A man who holds a deep grudge----. PML N don't give a sh-it---PPP is there to loot and plunder----then you got only one democratic solution----make alliance with PTI----you also need to ask yourselves----is Mr Altaf Husein past his expiration date.

Does Karachi come first or the ego of Altaf Hussein comes first----.
 
Hi,

And what Nawaz is doing---he is doing it intentionally. A man who holds a deep grudge----. PML N don't give a sh-it---PPP is there to loot and plunder----then you got only one democratic solution----make alliance with PTI----you also need to ask yourselves----is Mr Altaf Husein past his expiration date.

Does Karachi come first or the ego of Altaf Hussein comes first----.
Altaf Hussain is nothing more then a symbol which represent the Original MQM. He has no Value even within MQM's rank but the only reason why he even is there is because in the Past Establishment Cut of MQM and form another Party called MQM Haqiqi but that doesnt even to earn any support because MQM was Altaf Hussain's Brainchild and Ideology not Afaq Ahmed's so its like who ever aligned with Altaf Hussain is part of real MQM even if he doesnt follow his Direction completely and Compromise with LEA covertly(which almost all MQM Leaders are doing these days).
 
For sure Khyber Pakhtuns and Punjabi voters are being more selective toward development goals and that's why whoever takes over both provinces tends to be under pressure or they know they will get the boot come the elections.
Karachiites are actually selective towards development too, I don't support the MQM but they did get lots support cause of the work Mustafa Kamal(he left mqm later) did during his 3 years ruling khi, if you visited karachi before 2005 and then again in 2008 you would notice a stark difference in infrastructure and it had gotten cleaner, everything got worse once PPP came and removed the LB system, people did get fed up with MQM+PPP that's why PTI is the 2nd most popular party here & my area NA250 voted for PTI, they also polled 2nd in every constuincy, so people are waking up


Karachi and Sindh. This province unfortunatly is trapped around the ethnic divide. Almost 70 years after the Mohajirs migrated from India they have still not integrated into Sindh, instead they just have carved a block - I can't say that this has not happened in other parts of the world although I think this example is rather unique.
That's no out of choice, it's simply becauseit's cause Sindhis are in small numbers here & only started growing, it's still less than 1/10th Sindhi, was even less 30-40 years back, you only assimilate eventually when you interact with the host ethnicity, that's how gradually you learn the language & culture and intermarry etc, many people may not know this but lots of muhajirs had settled in interior Sindh and can speak Sindhi fluently and some married Sindhis, samething in Punjab there were many urdu-speaking migrants from India picked up punjabi & don't identify as mohajir, so it's not like mohajirs in karachi don't want to assiilate or won't, it's not happening cause of the demographics and lack of interaction with sidhis, this is not like lahore or peshawar where you can find the natives easily; people here can curse in pashto & undertand seraiki now cause we have so many pashtuns and seraikis but still can't speak sindhi despite learning it in school, even Gujaratis in khi who are a large %age of the city are adopting urdu and merging into the Urdu-speaking community despite being culturally,linguistically like Sindhis, the baloch in karachi are also getting urduized and being absorbed into the urdu-speaking community and it's cause they're majority whereas Sindhis are few.

Sindhis are increasing in number but not enough to impact the culture, if anything they're acting like Urdu-speakers now, just check any Sindhi from Khi on tv like Zarrar Khuhro,Fahad Mustafa or Sanam Baloch, their accent and mannerism have little trace of Sindhiness


Of course like I have said before my knowledge of this part of Pakistan is extremely limited and I wait for others 'on the ground' to correct me.

*The MQM bile for PTI/Pashtuns/Imran Khan is I believe driven by the population change that Karachi has seen in the last 30 years and will see in next 20 years which threatens their monopoly.

Most PTI supporters in Khi are in fact Urdu-speakers, so mqm is losing ground not cause of pashtuns but thier own target demographic
 
Okay, I understand. Let's close MQM now, is that your favorite political support????

We should be Pakistani citizens who support development, education, and growth like NYC or Hong Kong without political involvement, retarded thugs, frauds, Lal Masjid or taliban terrorists, which means we are more loyal and respect to Pakistan.

Karachi should be transformed immediately without MQM/PPP misusing our people.

Rangers arrest 10 MQM workers from Karachi - The Express Tribune
MQM is irrelevant here its about Administrative issues of Karachi and MQM for better or worse Part of it and Performed Greatly as well in the past.

Yes we should be Pakistani Citizens no doubt but we should also Ask Pakistan to TREAT us that way as well. Do you think top circle of our Bureaucracy and Military Doesnt know how to solve Karachi Problems????They quite know and they also know the solution but they are Unwilling for some reason and this is what causing all the unrest in Karachi. MQM is irrelevant what actually Relevant is Strong Administrative Controls in Karachiite's hands through JI, PTI, PMLN or MQM. All the Matters would be resolved within Months.
 
Okay, I understand. Let's close MQM now, is that your favorite political support????

We should be Pakistani citizens who support development, education, and growth like NYC or Hong Kong without political involvement, retarded thugs, frauds, Lal Masjid or taliban terrorists, which means we are more loyal and respect to Pakistan.

Karachi should be transformed immediately without MQM/PPP misusing our people.

Rangers arrest 10 MQM workers from Karachi - The Express Tribune


Hi,

MQM is a real party----it just needs fresh leadership---. It represents a major group of people who are interested in preserving their ethnicity and identity and want to pursue their goals in life of wellbeing and justice and freedom just like anyone else.

They need to seek the leaders from those residing in Karachi.
 
Karachi and you quote:rofl: Fauji Bhai
He never spoke a single word against corrupt PMLN. A Party which ruined all institutions of
Pakistan. . Even when their leader escaped to Jeddah, not even 100 people came on roads for nawaz sharif but still he is supporting PMLN...
He means that many party tested, why not give chance to PMLN and let politicize more heavily Sindh police as punjab police. ..Now, what is difference between PMLN and PPPP...

Make karachi a seperate province and Give proper chance TO MQM. Only MQM can make karachi as city of lights, give them full authority. MQM is not corrupt like PMLN and PPPP.
 
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Meray bhai jaan

This is Mohajirism what you say.

No party can own anything.
They are here for one election cycle each time.

That's it.

Only us the people own. Not party does. Not ever PMLN or PTI. No party OWNS Pakistan in whole or in part.


This is not Mohajirism ... Karachi is multi-ethno city ... I don't support to MQM for Mohajirism ... But it is reality that MQM vote bank depends 90% Mohajir populace ............

Street crime was introduced during that tenure. 99% of karachi became a victim of it. People became scared of letting their kids have phones or attending a call in public and the impact multiplied Please add this to the achievements list as well.


Not agreed ... Karachi was much peaceful during MQM authoritative tenure ... The whole mess had been created after 2008 election ... There were minimum crime rate ... You can google to figure out things ...........
 
Hi,

pappy----Punjabi was there before mohajirs immigrated to Karachi in 1947 and so were Pashtuns and balochis----and Karachi is the land of sindhis----everyone immigrated to Karachi before you even showed up on the scene---not in as large a numbers---but in numbers in proportion to people moving at that time.
Baloch are native of Karachi, hve been here for long, most adopted sindhi so we think they're sindhi
 
Baloch are native of Karachi, hve been here for long, most adopted sindhi so we think they're sindhi


You are right Balochs are native ... And in fact Karachi is the part of Balochistan but as Brits develop the city they kept in Sindh ... Therefore nobody raised question about it because before developing a port city it was a little village of Baloch fishermen ............
 
Most PTI supporters in Khi are in fact Urdu-speakers, so mqm is losing ground not cause of pashtuns but thier own target demographic
Not anymore it was only true for 2013 Elections now Ex ANP are current PTI in Karachi and Urdu Speakers are increasingly Distancing themselves from PTI due to lack of Interest they have shown towards Karachi in last two years.
 
Hi,

pappy----Punjabi was there before mohajirs immigrated to Karachi in 1947 and so were Pashtuns and balochis----and Karachi is the land of sindhis----everyone immigrated to Karachi before you even showed up on the scene---not in as large a numbers---but in numbers in proportion to people moving at that time.


Sorry ... Pashtoon were settled here in Ayub Khan reign ... But Memon and other Gujrati communities have been settled here while Brits had developed it as port city ... Sindhis were not living in Karachi ... But their several tribes resided in those localities which were later merged into the city ... Like Sacchal Goth, Sohrab Goth, Safoora Goth, Memon Goth, Landhi, Malir etc ..........
 
Baloch are native of Karachi, hve been here for long, most adopted sindhi so we think they're sindhi
karachi based Baluch are mostly Makrani Segment that has no Separatists feeling among them and now a days they are tilting towards Urdu but with their own Dialect which they call Makrani. The word "Arhay" is their word while Urdu Speakers, Punjabis and Pashtuns in Karachi mostly use "Oy" or "Abay".
 
Karachi and Sindh. This province unfortunatly is trapped around the ethnic divide. Almost 70 years after the Mohajirs migrated from India they have still not integrated into Sindh, instead they just have carved a block - I can't say that this has not happened in other parts of the world although I think this example is rather unique.


Migrated people could have not become Sindhi because Sindhi were not dominate the city culturally ... If you visit to Hyderabad ... You will see Mohajirs speak Sindhi fluently but not in Karachi ... Karachi was multi-ethno before partition ... And Urdu was used while different communities tied up with each other ...........
 
Migrated people could have not become Sindhi because Sindhi were not dominate the city culturally ... If you visit to Hyderabad ... You will see Mohajirs speak Sindhi fluently but not in Karachi ... Karachi was multi-ethno before partition ... And Urdu was used while different communities tied up with each other ...........
Karachi wasnt Multi Ethno rather it was Dominated by Hindu Sindhis who left after Partition while Muhajirs filled their spot as Sindhis from Interior didnt took any interest. Now Urdu doesnt just survive for the sack of Muhajir but also because other communities of Karachi from different Province also rely heavyly on Urdu in Daily basis Communication.
 
For Nawaz Sharif Pakistan starts from Islamabad and end at Raiwand through Motorway and Karachi doesnt even Exist anywhere in between.


yara, this is uncalled for.,

Please keep this away from ethnic attacks on others.

Haven't we paid so much price for viewing everything from ethnic pov.
 

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