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How the U.S. fell behind in lithium, the 'white gold' , China controls over half of the world's lithium processing and refining, 3/4 battery megafactories in the world
January 15 2022

The United States has a lithium supply problem. Nearly every major automaker has announced a transition to electric vehicles, Tesla delivered almost one million cars in 2021, and a handful of new electric vehicle companies like Rivian and Lucidare rolling new models off the line.

In order to power all of these EVs, we will need batteries — lots of them.


Electric vehicle growth will be responsible for more than 90% of demand for lithium by 2030, according to Benchmark Mineral Intelligence. But lithium is also in our phones, computers, ceramics, lubricants, pharmaceuticals, and is essential for solar and wind energy storage.

"It's like the blood in your body," said Lithium Americas CEO Jon Evans, "It's the chemistry behind how lithium-ion batteries work. It remains the common denominator in all the battery technologies, even that we're looking at now for next generation batteries. So it's truly a critical element."

This vital mineral in rechargeable batteries has earned the name "white gold" and the rush is on.

The price of lithium is soaring, up 280% since Jan. 2021, and establishing a domestic supply of lithium has become the modern-day version of oil security. But today, the U.S. is far behind, with only 1% of global lithium being mined and processed in the U.S., according to the U.S. Geological Survey.

More than 80% of the world's raw lithium is mined in Australia, Chile, and China. And China controls more than half of the world's lithium processing and refining and has three-fourths of the lithium-ion battery megafactories in the world, according to the International Energy Agency.

But until the 1990s, the U.S. was the leader in lithium production.

"The lithium industry started in the U.S. and had a good run for 50 years," said Erick Neuman, the international business manager for with Swenson Technology. "We do have a lot. The challenge is, can we produce what we need at an economical and competitive price? That's hard."

Lithium is not a scarce element. The U.S. holds almost 8 million metric tons in reserve, ranking it among the top five countries in the world, according to the USGS.

But there is only one operating lithium mine in the U.S.,Albemarle's Silver Peak in Nevada.

Last June, the administration released a blueprint for jumpstarting domestic lithium production and refining as well as battery manufacturing, and set a national EV sales goal of 50% by 2030.

There are several domestic lithium projects in the works in Nevada, North Carolina, California and Arkansas, among other places.


Controlled Thermal Resources is developing a lithium project at the Salton Sea in California, which will extract lithium out of brine pumped up via geothermal energy plants in the area. The Salton Sea was once a hot tourist destination, but has become one of the worst environmental and public health crises in modern history as drier conditions caused a lot of the lake to dry up. The state of California is trying to transform the area, calling it "Lithium Valley" and it hopes to generate the revenue needed to revive the area.

Last summer, GM announced a multi-million-dollar investment in Controlled Thermal Resources, and has secured first rights to purchase the domestically produced lithium for its EVs.

Piedmont Lithium wants to revive an old lithium mining area in North Carolina, near Charlotte. Piedmont signed a deal in 2020 to supply Tesla with lithium sourced from its deposits there, but the project has hit delays due to permitting.

Lithium Americas plans an open-pit mine at Thacker Pass, which is located within an extinct supervolcano about 200 miles north of Reno, Nevada, and is one of the largest lithium reserves in the U.S. The site will handle both the mining and the refinement of the lithium and it is in the final permitting phase.

But no one wants a mine in their backyard, and Thacker Pass and other projects have been stalled by lawsuits and opposition from environmentalists, permitting delays, and opposition from Native American tribes in the area.

 
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good old fashioned american't enginuity! :lol:
No wonder why all the global major EV manufacturers including Tesla all built their production hubs in China. They don't have much of a choice.
lithium & nickel batteries are the crown jewel on China's dominance in the EV world but the less spoken of underdog of the Chinese dominance of the EV world are the Chinese electric motors that almost all electric cars are driven by. I know, I own two electric cars, one korean and the other american, both have Chinese lithium batteries AND Chinese electric motors.
 
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How the U.S. fell behind in lithium, the 'white gold' , China controls over half of the world's lithium processing and refining, 3/4 battery megafactories in the world
Why this suddenly get reported by the mainstream media now? These years China's dominance in a lot of metal mining/processing isn't even news in the professional or business world, as early as 2017 IEEFA has already reported on China's controlling position in Lithium:

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Such dominance in tech and industrial capacity is exactly why five Chinese companies were exclusively invited to tap Afghanistan's $trillion-level lithium reserves. But I guess US is a beneficiary of this result, there are talks about Hunter Biden's involvement in the Afghan deal (as well as Congo), if it's true he should've got a handsome cut.

 
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Why this suddenly get reported by the mainstream media now? These days China's dominance in metal mining/processing is hardly any news in the professional or business world, as early as 2017 IEEFA has already reported on China's controlling position in Lithium:

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Such dominance in tech and industrial capacity is exactly why five Chinese companies were exclusively invited to tap Afghanistan's $trillion-level lithium reserves. But I guess US is a beneficiary of this result, there are talks about Hunter Biden's involvement in the Afghan deal (as well as Congo), I'm sure he get paid a handsome cut.

This is exactly why u.s. could never hope to compete with China militarily and have even the slightest chance of a stalemate. China dominates if not straight up monopolizes the metal mining industry including TITANIUM which is an absolute must for jet, rocket and combustion engines...
 
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This is exactly why u.s. could never hope to compete with China militarily and have even the slightest chance of a stalemate. China dominates if not straight up monopolizes the metal mining industry including TITANIUM which is an absolute must for jet, rocket and combustion engines...
Lol, China has no chance against the US.
 
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Why this suddenly get reported by the mainstream media now? These years China's dominance in a lot of metal mining/processing isn't even news in the professional or business world, as early as 2017 IEEFA has already reported on China's controlling position in Lithium:

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Such dominance in tech and industrial capacity is exactly why five Chinese companies were exclusively invited to tap Afghanistan's $trillion-level lithium reserves. But I guess US is a beneficiary of this result, there are talks about Hunter Biden's involvement in the Afghan deal (as well as Congo), if it's true he should've got a handsome cut.


BYD had a headstart in the 100% EV game back in the mid 2000's before the potential for the EV market was even realized or taken seriously. They were already ramping up and gathering the companies/resources needed for world production. A myriad of other Chinese EV companies sprang up. The only reason they aren't dominating the world EV markets right now is their tech was not quite market ready and the delay allowed Tesla to come out of the shadows.

This is 2008/2009 marketing a 100% EV 4 door family sedan E6 for the world market. Almost a decade ahead of everybody else (other than the anemic Nissan Leaf)

The Tesla Model 3 didn't come out until 2017. Even the Model S was 2012.
 
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BYD had a headstart in the 100% EV game back in the mid 2000's before the potential for the EV market was even realized or taken seriously. They were already ramping up and gathering the companies/resources needed for world production. A myriad of other Chinese EV companies sprang up. The only reason they aren't dominating the world EV markets right now is their tech was not quite market ready and the delay allowed Tesla to come out of the shadows.

This is 2008/2009 marketing a 100% EV 4 door family sedan for the world market. Almost a decade ahead of everybody else (other than the anemic Nissan Leaf)

The Tesla Model 3 didn't come out until 2017. Even the Model S was 2012.
My knowledge about EV is just barely enough for me to chase some bets on this race course and I know zero about technical details, so I often look at this from (and take actions based on) a perspective that I'm more familiar with.

It's typical example of how a tech-centric mindset can drag the feet of a corporation (BYD is this case) versus the critical importance of marketing (TSLA here) in any consumer business, EV is no exception. I always bet my money on the guy who knows how to rally support and sell things, not the guy who buries himself in pride of hi-tech. Musk has done the right things: kick Eberhard & Tarpenning (I suppose they are tech-centric nerds like BYD boss Wang Chuanfu) out of the driver's seat, rally strategic support from Panasonic on tech and funding, takeover a used & mature production line from GM-Toyota, and pour all energy on cultivating the 1st batch of affluent target users with fashion. Fashion, that's the key word.

That's why I see Xpeng has better future than BYD despite having all the good techs, cos it's not the tech that makes a difference in financial results, it's the mindset and business approach. Perhaps one day Xpeng might walk into BYD's boardroom and replace Wang Chuanfu, just like what Musk had done. Or existing shareholders should talk Wang out of his CEO role, get somebody like William Li to reinvent BYD's business model.
 
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My knowledge about EV is just barely enough for me to chase some bets on this race course and I know zero about technical details, so I often look at this from (and take actions based on) a perspective that I'm more familiar with.

It's typical example of how a tech-centric mindset can drag the feet of a corporation (BYD is this case) versus the critical importance of marketing (TSLA here) in any consumer business, EV is no exception. I always bet my money on the guy who knows how to rally support and sell things, not the guy who buries himself in pride of hi-tech. Musk has done the right things: kick Eberhard & Tarpenning (I suppose they are tech-centric nerds like BYD boss Wang Chuanfu) out of the driver's seat, rally strategic support from Panasonic on tech and funding, takeover a used & mature production line from GM-Toyota, and pour all energy on cultivating the 1st batch of affluent target users with fashion. Fashion, that's the key word.

That's why I see Xpeng has better future than BYD despite having all the good techs, cos it's not the tech that makes a difference in financial results, it's the mindset and business approach. Perhaps one day Xpeng might walk into BYD's boardroom and replace Wang Chuanfu, just like what Musk had done. Or existing shareholders should talk Wang out of his CEO role, get somebody like William Li to reinvent BYD's business model.


3 years later in November 2011 Elon Musk (before even his release of the Model S) comments on BYD's tech in the E6 is not being as good as everybody thinks it is. Questioning if their tech is good enough to even keep them alive in the Chinese EV market nevermind the world market.



May 8th 2013 (1.5 years after Musk's comment and 4 years after the autoshow announcement) BYD announces this shocker sealing their fate of not producing a "World car" and thus opening the door wide open for Musk to now pursue the Model 3 R&D and eventually making it the "World car".

BYD, a company struggling to sell its e6 electric crossover in its home market, has decided it won't be sold at all to private customers in the U.S.

The company recently announced those projects may be coming to an end, as it seeks to stem falling profits by putting more effort into hybrid and electric vehicles.

Such cars aren't selling well just yet in China, but by focusing on electrified vehicles BYD hopes to get the jump on its competitors--a risky move in the electric-skeptic Chinese market.

The e6 electric crossover will be part of those plans, but any hopes the vehicle would be available for private purchase in the U.S. have now fallen through, at least for the time being. Instead, says BYD's Stella Li, the company will focus on taxi fleets.
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..so instead of the BYD E6 World Car... this is what happened:


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This is exactly why u.s. could never hope to compete with China militarily and have even the slightest chance of a stalemate. China dominates if not straight up monopolizes the metal mining industry including TITANIUM which is an absolute must for jet, rocket and combustion engines...
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The titanium available to the US in case of a war with China is actually greater than the titanium available for China.

So the base of your assumption is false.
 
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The titanium available to the US in case of a war with China is actually greater than the titanium available for China.

So the base of your assumption is false.
uhm...you do realize that African & south american nations are heavily under Chinese & Russian influence and also don't look too kindly upon their former european colonizers and the former american slave masters, right? australia & south africa may export it to the u.s. at best, and that too, is a big question mark.

but it's okay, I can understand your panic prone dilemma that makes you babble nonsense.
 
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My knowledge about EV is just barely enough for me to chase some bets on this race course and I know zero about technical details, so I often look at this from (and take actions based on) a perspective that I'm more familiar with.

It's typical example of how a tech-centric mindset can drag the feet of a corporation (BYD is this case) versus the critical importance of marketing (TSLA here) in any consumer business, EV is no exception. I always bet my money on the guy who knows how to rally support and sell things, not the guy who buries himself in pride of hi-tech. Musk has done the right things: kick Eberhard & Tarpenning (I suppose they are tech-centric nerds like BYD boss Wang Chuanfu) out of the driver's seat, rally strategic support from Panasonic on tech and funding, takeover a used & mature production line from GM-Toyota, and pour all energy on cultivating the 1st batch of affluent target users with fashion. Fashion, that's the key word.

That's why I see Xpeng has better future than BYD despite having all the good techs, cos it's not the tech that makes a difference in financial results, it's the mindset and business approach. Perhaps one day Xpeng might walk into BYD's boardroom and replace Wang Chuanfu, just like what Musk had done. Or existing shareholders should talk Wang out of his CEO role, get somebody like William Li to reinvent BYD's business model.

BYD is a very Japanese style zaibatsu company - technically focused, vertically integrated, absolutely awful marketing. That is why they're completely dominant in EV commerical vehicles like buses, trucks and trains, they have independent battery and semiconductor tech, and they're still doing well in home and ASEAN markets. They do well when selling to highly sophisticated customers.
 
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BYD is a very Japanese style zaibatsu company - technically focused, vertically integrated, absolutely awful marketing. That is why they're completely dominant in EV commerical vehicles like buses, trucks and trains, they have independent battery and semiconductor tech, and they're still doing well in home and ASEAN markets. They do well when selling to highly sophisticated customers.

They really need to work on their marketing. They have a strong foundation but they need to be much more well known.
 
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BYD is a very Japanese style zaibatsu company - technically focused, vertically integrated, absolutely awful marketing. That is why they're completely dominant in EV commerical vehicles like buses, trucks and trains, they have independent battery and semiconductor tech, and they're still doing well in home and ASEAN markets. They do well when selling to highly sophisticated customers.
Exactly. Corporate culture is decisive to what kind of market approach is suitable for it. I would be more comfortable to bet my money on BYD if they either reinvent themselves to become fashionable for consumer business, or continue to be tech-centric and focus on B2B. The latter path requires less change, only need to make minor adjustments, is more achievable though less sexy (less premium on valuation) comparatively.
 
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