How the myth of love jihad is going viral?

[Nityam]

And you will define the Hindu way? Quite honestly what is the Hindu way?

THINKING FOR YOURSELF is the Hindu way.

Breaking free of your social programming and christian morality is the Hindu way.

 

[Sharma Ji]

People die all the time. If suicide by grief is the response then half of the world population would kill itself. If she had been stopped, supported, taken to someplace religious she might have changed her stance over time. No one can take emotional decisions in grief.

No, it obviously affected her worse than others, everyone has to go through loss, very few end their own lives over it.

One could romanticize the whole thing but it's quite stupid to do so. Not much different from a suicide bomber who loved someone or something so much that... etc

Stop preaching christian values...

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[Arulmozhi Varman]

THINKING FOR YOURSELF is the Hindu way.

Breaking free of your social programming and christian morality is the Hindu way.

So if people think I am higher caste and rest all are lower and it's ok to be discriminated is the Hindu way according to your definition?

No, it obviously affected her worse than others, everyone has to go through loss, very few end their own lives over it.

One could romanticize the whole thing but it's quite stupid to do so. Not much different from a suicide bomber who loved someone or something so much that... etc



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Ooooh. You are equating her with suicide bomber. Wait till.the Nitti police comes.

 

[Sharma Ji]

How is dying in a war not suicide you moron.

because it's not.

Are they not aware that their probability of death is Far Far higher in a war ? Why not sit out the war since they value life so much ?

that's how fidayeen squads think

How is dying for your "brother solider" heroic while dying for your love / Husband is any less Heroic ?

yep, taking a bullet to save.. say, a more important member of the team in the heat of combat is the same as:

running out in florescent clothing and yelling to the enemy, "here I am, kill me, you killed my lover.. kill me too... can't live without them !!"

so heroic !

Stop making value judgment of their community or on their individual choices. You are nobody to do that.

You're making the case for "honourable" suicide here because it fits your mazhab just like it does those guys'.. who love death more than life, and it's not for sissy reasons like heartbreak.. they're militant expansionists.

India will lose with your mindset.

Hubris never ends with idiots who think sprouting Christian morality makes them look smart.

wtflol

 

[Nityam]

The husband is dead. so how dying for a dead person can be a suicide?

Christian moralities. They are no different than you. They used to burn women's accusing as witches as far back as 100 years.

If.she is donating her heart or liver so her husband can live, then its sacrifice. Guess you need to create a separate book for dictionary meaning.

She is taking SATI so that she can be reunited with her husband in the next life.

So no, its not Suicide, its Sati.

In christian "morality", only humans have soul. Animals and plants have been created for your to kill and exploit and they don't have souls.

SO NOT, their values are VERY different from Hindu values.

Christian values allow owning of Slaves, Hindus values don't permit that.

Christian values allows you to kill, rape and do all kinds of Evil and then CONFESS your SIN to be absolved of them all and it gives you a free pass to Heaven. Hindu values don't permit any such absurdities.

Its SELF SACRIFICE you ignoramus, not Sacrifice. First understand the difference before repeatedly making a fools of yourself.

So if people think I am higher caste and rest all are lower and it's ok to be discriminated is the Hindu way according to your definition?

Just how stupid are you ?

What kind of idiot equates actions that affect only the self to actions that affect others ?

How long do you plan to make a fool of yourself ?

 

[Sharma Ji]

She is taking SATI so that she can be reunited with her husband in the next life.

So no, its not Suicide, its Sati.

 

[Nityam]

No, it obviously affected her worse than others, everyone has to go through loss, very few end their own lives over it.

One could romanticize the whole thing but it's quite stupid to do so. Not much different from a suicide bomber who loved someone or something so much that... etc

So in your book, killing one self is equal to killing 10 others who do not want to die.

SO by that same "logic", feeding other must be the same as eating food for oneself. So why don't you practice what you preach ?

because it's not.

Ever heard the word "suicide mission" ?

The only difference is that they die for others, and in suicide you die for yourself.

The ONLY difference in the intangible called "motive'.

that's how fidayeen squads think

Fidayeen squads dream of 72 virgins in heaven and eternal orgies.

SATI dream/wish of reuniting with her love in the next life.

yep, taking a bullet to save.. say, a more important member of the team in the heat of combat is the same as:

running out in florescent clothing and yelling to the enemy, "here I am, kill me, you killed my lover.. kill me too... can't live without them !!"

so heroic !

You just defined "heroic" as dying for others.

There are other kind of Heroes. Those who lie for others, those who life for their dreams, those who die in pursuit of their dreams, those who survive cancer etc.

Nobody is seeking your certificate of "heroism" or a medal from you. If enough people think you are a hero, then you are. Because Hero's are supposed to inspire.

So if anybody builds a TEMPLE for someone then you can bet that person is considered Heroic in that society. And nobody asked your opinion on that.

You are important only in your head. For others even the MEMORY of Roop Kanwar is more important than you or your opinion. Now learn to live with it.

You're making the case for "honourable" suicide here because it fits your mazhab just like it does those guys'.. who love death more than life, and it's not for sissy reasons like heartbreak.. they're militant expansionists.

India will lose with your mindset.

I do not give a single Fcuk for "honorable" or "honor".

I make the case of FREEDOM OF CHOICE, Even if you do not agree with that choice. Because it is NON OF YOUR FREAKING Business.

There are those who believe there is Life after death and that death is only temporary. Life is eternal.Hindus for example.

You have to be demented to equate suicide with Murder of other innocents.

wtflol

Sums up your "logic".

 

[Sharma Ji]

So in your book, killing one self is equal to killing 10 others who do not want to die.

SO by that same "logic", feeding other must be the same as eating food for oneself. So why don't you practice what you preach ?

Let's borrow one from the Qur'an here.. killing one innocent person is akin to killing all mankind.

Killing yourself is also just wrong, one shouldn't need a holy book to say it.. even in our tradition, isn't there a major penalty of many (8-9) forced rebirths in bad situations if you pull the plug on your human experience this time around ? 1 karod plus something births as souls from cellular organism to insect to birds and then monkeys before we get the privilege of human form capable of self realization etc... no ?

Suicide is bad karma, and if you assist it, it's on you too..

Go and introspect some, stop tying yourself up in more knots trying to glorify and romanticize suicide.

 

[Nityam]

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Oh, I was not aware I was dealing with an Enlightened Soul who knows with certainty what happens after Death.

Why don't you share this enlightened knowledge with us and tell us how Roop Kanwar was wrong and you are right ?

Let's borrow one from the Qur'an here.. killing one innocent person is akin to killing all mankind.

Killing yourself is also just wrong, one shouldn't need a holy book to say it.. even in our tradition, isn't there a major penalty of many (8-9) forced rebirths in bad situations if you pull the plug on your human experience this time around ? 1 karod plus something births as souls from cellular organism to insect to birds and then monkeys before we get the privilege of human form capable of self realization etc... no ?

Suicide is bad karma, and if you assist it, it's on you too..

Go and introspect some, stop tying yourself up in more knots trying to glorify and romanticize suicide.

Is this the same quran by Muhammed who fought a 100 wars in his lifetime and killed thousands ?

Sounds Legit.

Sadly Roop Kanwar was NOT a muslim who read or belied the quran.

And Thankfully , neither am I.

But now that I know what you are, I have more clarity about your thinking and your choice of "suicide bomber" to define Sati.

Killing yourself is also just wrong, one shouldn't need a holy book to say it.. even in our tradition, isn't there a major penalty of many (8-9) forced rebirths in bad situations if you pull the plug on your human experience this time around ? 1 karod plus something births as souls from cellular organism to insect to birds and then monkeys before we get the privilege of human form capable of self realization etc... no ?

Suicide is bad karma, and if you assist it, it's on you too..

Go and introspect some, stop tying yourself up in more knots trying to glorify and romanticize suicide.

Karma is just action. Suicide is just death.

Suicide IS karma.

There is nothing "good" or "bad" about it.

Only ending your life energy before its time makes your energy linger longer on earth for that energy to dissipate without a body takes much much much longer if you are not enlightened and can find your own way back.

THAT is why suicide is discouraged.

Or if you have to/ want to do it, it is advised to starve yourself so that the life energy gets naturally dissipated and you die a natural death.

Reality is that even death on a battlefield when your life energy is at its peak will make your life energy linger on earth same as any suicide victim.So spiritually its the same.

Now Go and introspect some, stop tying yourself up in more knots trying to talk about things you have no idea about.

 

[jamahir]

@Nityam going strong after 10 pages.

 

[Nityam]

@Nityam going strong after 10 pages.

And here is the tail trying to wag the dog

 

[Sharma Ji]

I know what you are, I have more clarity about your thinking and your choice of "suicide bomber" to define Sati.

If your daughter ever commits sati suicide, it'll be like a suicide bomber going boom in your family

you and the rest of them will be scarred good, as will many others.

only true saints and ascetics who achieve samadhi thru dhyan and penance who can willfully leave their human form are legit.

you can't jump from a building, eat too many pills, hang yourself from a fan, or.. jump into a fire to end your innings.. those idiots are coming straight back to lead worse lives than the ones they escaped from.

 

[jamahir]

And here is the tail trying to wag the dog

Didn't you understand from hundreds of my posts that I don't have anything to do with dogs ?

Dogs are more your style. Below is a tweet from the Agniveer account you referred to yesterday :

I am proudly a cat person.

 

[xeuss]

If your daughter ever commits sati suicide, it'll be like a suicide bomber going boom in your family

you and the rest of them will be scarred good, as will many others.

only true saints and ascetics who achieve samadhi thru dhyan and penance who can willfully leave their human form are legit.

you can't jump from a building, eat too many pills, hang yourself from a fan, or.. jump into a fire to end your innings.. those idiots are coming straight back to lead worse lives than the ones they escaped from.

Such people want others to do Sati....never their own family. It's a choice after all.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Such people...

he's a super far right ideologue, well known here

a bit too entrenched in their fantasies for their own good perhaps lol

but there's plenty of blame to go around everywhere when in comes to Hindu vs Muslim issues in India.. innocent da saval nahi.. sab gandey hain, doosrey ka khoon sab ki kameez pe dekh sakte hain