How the Haqqani Network Became America's Greatest Enemy

[Pandora]

A typical American story. Fund them, raise them, use them then bend them over backwards and screw them. Then later expect them to be a thankful for getting screwed.

 

[guest11]

So according to this very legitimate and not at all looney pic, 50,000 Israelis who come to India as tourists are infact here to do false flag attack and blame Pakistan. Thanks for the warning man, never again will I engage these killing machines in Himachal Pradesh hotspots. Bach gaya yaar.

What about Russians in Goa? Are they too here for same purpose?

 

[Arsalan]

Is it right to assume that United States is killing its Founding fathers via Drone strikes?

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Drones strikes are a fact just like US involvement in creating these groups is a fact. What i was pointing too was that US may not necessarily be involved in this particular killing, it seems there are some other major changes happening as well and killing of mullah Mansour may be a part of those changing alliances.

 

[A-Team]

@A-Team

Any cultured reformist from the Zadran tribe for its representation?

BTW If not, I can always return to my native lands if you guys endorse me for the job!

You have my votes

 

[Z-A-K]

If I know INDIANS well, which I definitely do because I am an Indian myself, then INDIANS are very non-interfering by nature( I don't want to mention the reasons since that would deviate the thread). INDIA would not even interfere in what's happening in its neighborhood if KASHMIR is spared.
If KASHMIR is messed with INDIA is bound to retaliate.
I reiterate, relations with AFGHANISAN are cultural and monetary, I don't see a reason to use AFGHANISTAN as a shield to attack PAKSITAN.

dude be realistic, we see every where indians abusing pakistan, be it forums, youtube, quora and many many more, the indian politicians have shared countless times about the past adventure of theirs against pakistan, we hear news about genocides in kashmir, in hindu majority areas of india, these are video documented stuff that we see every where, many indians still holds the agenda to undo pakistan, you think us to believe that indians are not aggressors ?

 

[Psychic]

You 're contradicting what your fellow country men said on this thread.

'We didn't know'
By we, I mean our policy makers, not my fellow countrymen on this thread
.

This is an illusion that Pak or atleast certain institutions in Pak have created. Or may be this was served as an excuse to participate with America against USSR in Afghanistan.
Do you remember the last time India attacked Pakistan, other than to defend itself?

If it was the 1950, then things might have been different , but once we had become US allies in the region, there was no turning back. After that, the USSR and Afghanistan started to support insurgencies in the frontier province and Baluchistan. We replied them in their own tone in 1974-75, and it was not at least a year after the Soviet invasion that America was convinced that the USSR had stepped in it's own Vietnam, so there was nothing such as supporting Mujahedden on America's behalf, as America jumped in the equation some time later.

 

[Levina]

'We didn't know'
By we, I mean our policy makers, not my fellow countrymen on this thread
.

Come on.
Members on this thread are definitely not as experienced as your policy makers, despite that they could sense that the decision was wrong. Do you really think your policy makers didn't anticipate any repercussions?

I leave you with that to cogitate.

dude be realistic, we see every where indians abusing pakistan, be it forums, youtube, quora and many many more, the indian politicians have shared countless times about the past adventure of theirs against pakistan, we hear news about genocides in kashmir, in hindu majority areas of india, these are video documented stuff that we see every where, many indians still holds the agenda to undo pakistan, you think us to believe that indians are not aggressors ?

Just FYI- India's muslim population is as big as that of Pakistan. Infact it is the 3rd highest in the world.
So what you said doesnt make sense.

ciao

 

[Psychic]

Come on.
Members on this thread are definitely not as experienced as your policy makers, despite that they could sense that the decision was wrong. Do you really think your policy makers didn't anticipate any repercussions?

I leave you with that to cogitate.

9/11 came as a surprise to everyone except AQ. Didn't it?

I would like to quote some excerpts from somewhere reliable:

" Pakistan's ISI's forward strategy in the 1980s against the Soviet Union (and against India) was ready to deliver desired national goals on the regional strategic front when 9/11 happened in 2001. But, by that time so many events had taken place that it was Al-Qaeda which benefited from the harvest.......
..........This was the time when the Pakistani Jihadi organizations reared by ISI became a serious threat to India. According to one estimate between 1990 and 2000, 600,000 Pakistanis and Kashmiris had trained in different Afghan militant camps, and at the time of 9/11 100,000 militants were active in Indian Kashmir (They used to be launched from Pakistan on a rotational basis). These insurgents not only troubled the 400,000 to 800,000 Indian security forces but emboldened the Pakistan army to orchestrate military advances like Kargil Operation in 1999.........
.......and even planned an attack on the Indian Parliament in December 2001. Simultaneously the HUJI was gaining a firm foothold in Bangladesh at the instigation of the ISI to pave the way for the rout of the pro-India elements there. Harkat carried out an assassination attempt on Sheikh Hassina and many of her supporters in 2000. This put India under so much pressure that an alliance that supported a coalition with Pakistan won the Bangladeshi elections in 2001.
By the year 2001, strategically speaking, Pakistan had become the most influential country from Central Asia to Bangladesh. It was about to translate that for a better bargain with India as well as Iran and the United States when 9/11 occurred. The entire world changed, and so did Pakistan's strategic objectives."

And add to that, a strategic-economic alliance with the Central Asian states and China seriously considering to acknowledge the Taliban government in Afghanistan. The Achilles heel of this grand strategy was the presence of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and Pakistan.