How secure is Indian nuclear program?

[Bull]

If by defending you mean attacking and discrediting the author, forum members and Pakistan then you guys are doing a darn good job.

Thanks...

 

[Bull]

And you couldn't make it anymore obvious even if you tried. Living 1400 odd years under the rule of Muslims and then Brits would do it to anyone. :

Living 1460 odd years under the rule of Muslims and then Brits and then the Americans and then the chineese would do it to anyone.

I guess that makes your minters/government officials morons or liars. I always had a feeling, these pansies are habitual liars, who would lie through their teeth to suit their agendas.

Frustrated??

 

[Bull]

Sweetie pie, I know ability to follow the thread isn’t forte of you guys, but it would save everyone's time if you could develop ability to follow the thread beyond the last message. I don’t think I am expecting anything more from you that I wouldn’t expect from a 6-7 years old.:wall:

Then why try???

1. Don’t tell me, tell it to the US State Department who blacklisted Indian nuclear scientists and sanctioned Indian firms for selling prohibited items to Iran.

Well thats why the congress cleared the Indo US nuke deal.

 

[Bull]

Then it’s established that India indeed has leaky nuclear program, because that’s what the US State Department says. :banana2:

And the same US come up with the Indo US nuke pact which they never offered to anyother non NPT signatory..see the disconnect

 

[vnomad]

Pardon me, I guess the obvious was lost on you. In case you can’t figure it out, the joke was on you guys who are running from pillar to post to change the meanings of your minister’s stunning admissions that Indian nuclear program is “highly vulnerable”.

Vulnerable to theft?

Does this statement even make any sense?

In case you never understood, thieves steal, and terrorists terrorize.

If its not related to theft then its not related to this threat.

Please don’t use your handicap of your inability to read and understand as unverifiability of proof. I already requested you many times and also in message 77, but let me remind you guys again, read the articles Seeds of Indian Proliferation and Nukes for India again for verifiable references.

Gill's the author of the appendix too.

How many times do I have to say it before you can get it through your heads, that don’t confuse Western hypocrisy as Indian innocence. :wall:

Fine. I've understood it. There are all fools in the west. The objections to the nuclear deal were that it would weaken the non-proliferation lobby. There was no comment about India (from the media or the congressmen) itself proliferating critical tech.

 

[TomCat111]

As for corporate greed - the US spends billions to make sure 'rogue' regimes don't get any form of WMDs least of all nuclear tech.

And looks like it makes even more by doing business with them.

‘US firm to sell India 500 tons of uranium’

By Anwar Iqbal

WASHINGTON, Dec 3: A US mining company has agreed to sell 500 metric tons of uranium a year to India, the US media reported on Sunday.

The agreement between WM Mining and India’s Nuclear Fuel Complex will be executed only after the Indo-US nuclear deal is concluded.

Both chambers of the US Congress have already approved the deal and a final approval is expected at a joint session sometime next week. The bill will then be sent to President George W Bush who has already agreed to sign it into a law.

The law would end a three-decade ban on nuclear commerce with India, enabling major US companies to benefit from the lucrative Indian market.

Last week, the US sent a 250-member trade delegation to Mumbai, representing 180 companies. As many as 30 members of the delegation represented 14 US firms in the nuclear sector.Representatives from nuclear reactor manufacturers Westinghouse, General Electric, BWX Technologies and fuel processing specialist Thorium Power also visited a nuclear site in India.

The US-India Business Council estimates that New Delhi will need at least $100 billion worth of investment to develop nuclear energy over the next 20 years.

Among the estimated 400 nuclear reactors across the world, the US has 104, and India has just 16, though India's population is more than thrice the population of the US.

India's ability to scale up its current production of 3,000 megawatts is restricted by its lack of access to the international nuclear fuel market. The proposed US law can help end this restriction.

US nuclear experts say that nuclear fuel is an affordable option for India. Currently, India’s Nuclear Power Corporation sells a kilowatt of power for one rupee.

General Electric hopes to apply for licences to develop nuclear technology as it believes that power generation will be the key investment area in India.

Westinghouse, one of the world's largest providers of nuclear technology, wants to establish itself as a supplier to major Indian companies.

American firms are also exploring ways for partnering with India to supply nuclear power globally. Natural resources of India, home to nearly one-third of the world's thorium reserves, and an abundant skilled workforce make it an attractive investment. BWX Technologies estimates that between 15 and 30 new nuclear plants will be needed each year in the global nuclear energy industry. The new ventures will generate around 600,000 jobs annually.



Now do you understand what I meant by corporate greed?

 

[TomCat111]

For the benefit of those who believe MAOISTS to be mere irritant...


'Maoists' kill 14 Indian police

At least 14 Indian policemen have been killed in a landmine ambush in an area of eastern India wracked by a Maoist insurgency, police say.
Several others were injured in the attack that blew up their car near the town of Bokaro, 130km (80 miles) from Ranchi, the capital of Jharkhand state.

Police reinforcements were sent to the site and a manhunt has begun.

More than 6,000 people have died during the rebels' 20-year fight for a communist state in parts of India.

A group of officers was on a routine patrol when the powerful blast occurred on a dirt road off a dense forest, M.S. Bhatia, a senior state police officer, told Reuters news agency.

"We have rushed 11 with serious injuries to a hospital," Mr Bhatia said.

Reuters reported that in a separate incident in neighbouring Chhattisgarh state early on Saturday, four Maoists had been killed and several injured in a fierce gunbattle with police.

The Maoist movement which began more than three decades ago has spread to a number of Indian states.

The rebels say they are fighting for the rights of poor peasants and landless workers.

 

[Contrarian]

And looks like it makes even more by doing business with them.

‘US firm to sell India 500 tons of uranium’

By Anwar Iqbal

WASHINGTON, Dec 3: A US mining company has agreed to sell 500 metric tons of uranium a year to India, the US media reported on Sunday.

The agreement between WM Mining and India’s Nuclear Fuel Complex will be executed only after the Indo-US nuclear deal is concluded.

Both chambers of the US Congress have already approved the deal and a final approval is expected at a joint session sometime next week. The bill will then be sent to President George W Bush who has already agreed to sign it into a law.

The law would end a three-decade ban on nuclear commerce with India, enabling major US companies to benefit from the lucrative Indian market.

Last week, the US sent a 250-member trade delegation to Mumbai, representing 180 companies. As many as 30 members of the delegation represented 14 US firms in the nuclear sector.Representatives from nuclear reactor manufacturers Westinghouse, General Electric, BWX Technologies and fuel processing specialist Thorium Power also visited a nuclear site in India.

The US-India Business Council estimates that New Delhi will need at least $100 billion worth of investment to develop nuclear energy over the next 20 years.

Among the estimated 400 nuclear reactors across the world, the US has 104, and India has just 16, though India's population is more than thrice the population of the US.

India's ability to scale up its current production of 3,000 megawatts is restricted by its lack of access to the international nuclear fuel market. The proposed US law can help end this restriction.

US nuclear experts say that nuclear fuel is an affordable option for India. Currently, India’s Nuclear Power Corporation sells a kilowatt of power for one rupee.

General Electric hopes to apply for licences to develop nuclear technology as it believes that power generation will be the key investment area in India.

Westinghouse, one of the world's largest providers of nuclear technology, wants to establish itself as a supplier to major Indian companies.

American firms are also exploring ways for partnering with India to supply nuclear power globally. Natural resources of India, home to nearly one-third of the world's thorium reserves, and an abundant skilled workforce make it an attractive investment. BWX Technologies estimates that between 15 and 30 new nuclear plants will be needed each year in the global nuclear energy industry. The new ventures will generate around 600,000 jobs annually.



Now do you understand what I meant by corporate greed?

its NOT ONLY corporate greeed, but a whole host of things much greater than mere corporate greed. If you choose to ignore that, then its your problem.

 

[vnomad]

Now do you understand what I meant by corporate greed?

For a country that spends $400 billion+ on defence, economic gains to be made from this agreement are negligible.

 

[TomCat111]

For a country that spends $400 billion+ on defence, economic gains to be made from this agreement are negligible.

Gosh.... I guess then we need to stop trading with the world. If $100 billion is only a drop in a bucket, why even try to sell cheaper products like MS Windows.... when will we learn?

 

[TomCat111]

its NOT ONLY corporate greeed, but a whole host of things much greater than mere corporate greed. If you choose to ignore that, then its your problem.

On contrary, I haven’t overlooked other ‘host of things much greater than mere corporate greed’. If you cant remember, it seems, the problem is yours. Go over my posts again before passing such ignorant remarks.:read:

 

[Bull]

The US congress has passed the Indian nuke deal and now it has to pass the final hyrdle of senate vote before bush gets his signature on it.

Another indication of how unsafe India's nuke program is...

 

[TomCat111]

The US congress has passed the Indian nuke deal and now it has to pass the final hyrdle of senate vote before bush gets his signature on it.

Another indication of how unsafe India's nuke program is...

Oh yeah, the turbine blades were failing and the reactors domes were falling because the deal wasn’t signed yet. Now they will be miraculously cured. And Naxalites will lay down their arms. And 700 million dirt-poor Indians will also be instantly elevated from deep poverty. Because India has signed a deal with the Americans. Yippee..... :lol1:

 

[vnomad]

Gosh.... I guess then we need to stop trading with the world. If $100 billion is only a drop in a bucket, why even try to sell cheaper products like MS Windows.... when will we learn?

$100 billion? Since when can India afford that?

the turbine blades were failing and the reactors domes were falling

With you watching and taking notes from the sidelines.

And 700 million dirt-poor Indians will also be instantly elevated from deep poverty.

220 million BPL at last count.

 

[TomCat111]

$100 billion? Since when can India afford that?

With Indian economy on fire, we thought $100 billion is chump change for you guys.

With you watching and taking notes from the sidelines.

Hey, somebody better keep an eye.

220 million BPL at last count.

Yes, perhaps 220 million BPL Indians live on less than $1 per day. Rest of 480 million still live approx $2 or less per day, last time I checked that’s still counted as deep-poverty.