How Saudi funded Rs 1,700 crore for Wahabi influence in India

[utraash]

I can see that everytime i board train from tvm

Buddy its not good to make a fun of our own ppl on a international forum.....

 

[magudi]

Buddy its not good to make a fun of our own ppl on a international forum.....

Take no offence bhai i said that on a lighter note

 

[JanjaWeed]

You guys were quick to point fingers at Kerala while completely forgetting the fact that wahabism finds more followers in Maharashtra (interior), Andhra Pradesh (outskirts of Hyd), UP(Lucknow) and Bihar.
Wahabis find it easier to drop their roots in places where literacy rate is low.

Now read this.....

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Madamji...I have nothing against Kerala..but do have a problem with their politics of appeasement & lack of action against the rise of fundamentalism in that part of the world, influenced by the large number of migrant labours to the gulf countries. Have come across some unusual practices, although maybe some isolated & some are not.

You can easily understand misguided youths falling prey in illiterate part of India. But Kerala being the most educated part of India..it worries even more when you hear about radicalisation taking roots.

 

[Levina]

Madamji...I have nothing against Kerala..nfluenced by the large number of migrant labours to the gulf countries. Have come across some unusual practices, although maybe some isolated & some are not.

You can easily understand misguided youths falling prey in illiterate part of India. But Kerala being the most educated part of India..it worries even more when you hear about radicalisation taking roots.

Sirji
Trust me you're worrying for no reason.

 

[Hindustani78]

Still Kerala is far better than UP bihar bengal though concern in OP are genuine.....

Uttar Pradesh has been given the maximum share of 13 out of the 100 Smart cities and the UP government has sent a proposal to the centre for including 18 cities in the list.

According to sources, the 18 State cities included in the proposal are Lucknow, Kanpur, Varanasi, Allahabad, Agra, Bareilly, Meerut, Ghaziabad, Moradabad, Mathura, Jhansi, Aligarh, Muzaffarnagar, Saharanpur, Rampur, Gorakhpur, Faizabad and Ayodhya. Under the Smart Cities Mission, cities which qualified to be developed as Smart city would get a Central assistance of Rs. 500 crore over a period of five years with Rs. 100 crore to be given each year for the development of public and civic amenities and to plan their growth.

For the record, there are 14 Nagar Nigams, or cities with Municipal Corporations, 194 Nagar Palika Parishad and 427 Nagar Panchayat. As per the data available for 2013-14, the total number of public toilets in the 14 Nagar Nigams was 2076 and public urinals, 2083. Majority of these are in an utter state of neglect. Forty lakh metric tonne of garbage was generated in the 14 Municipal Corporations in 2013-14, out of which 39.00 mt tonne is shown to have been disposed off.
The 14 Nagar Nigams in the State are Lucknow, Kanpur, Agra, Allahabad, Varanasi, Gorakhpur, Jhansi, Aligarh, Ghaziabad, Meerut, Moradabad, Bareilly, Saharanpur and Firozabad.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Sirji
Trust me you're worrying for no reason.

Madamji.. I have to, for the sake of my neighbours...& make sure it doesn't spill over across the border from Kasargod & Manjeshwar.

 

[utraash]

Uttar Pradesh has been given the maximum share of 13 out of the 100 Smart cities and the UP government has sent a proposal to the centre for including 18 cities in the list.

According to sources, the 18 State cities included in the proposal are Lucknow, Kanpur, Varanasi, Allahabad, Agra, Bareilly, Meerut, Ghaziabad, Moradabad, Mathura, Jhansi, Aligarh, Muzaffarnagar, Saharanpur, Rampur, Gorakhpur, Faizabad and Ayodhya. Under the Smart Cities Mission, cities which qualified to be developed as Smart city would get a Central assistance of Rs. 500 crore over a period of five years with Rs. 100 crore to be given each year for the development of public and civic amenities and to plan their growth.

For the record, there are 14 Nagar Nigams, or cities with Municipal Corporations, 194 Nagar Palika Parishad and 427 Nagar Panchayat. As per the data available for 2013-14, the total number of public toilets in the 14 Nagar Nigams was 2076 and public urinals, 2083. Majority of these are in an utter state of neglect. Forty lakh metric tonne of garbage was generated in the 14 Municipal Corporations in 2013-14, out of which 39.00 mt tonne is shown to have been disposed off.
The 14 Nagar Nigams in the State are Lucknow, Kanpur, Agra, Allahabad, Varanasi, Gorakhpur, Jhansi, Aligarh, Ghaziabad, Meerut, Moradabad, Bareilly, Saharanpur and Firozabad.

What it has to do with OP ....? I said Kerala is better when it comes to religious extremism...... Whabism might not find ground in Kerala for certain reason but the vulnerability of the UP BIHAR BENGAL can be exploited by the whabi group with this huge amount......

Sirji
Trust me you're worrying for no reason.

Worries are genuine Levina ... With this huge amount anyone can easily stir up the wahabi movement though by n large Kerala has been successful keeping this away from its shore .....

 

[mooppan]

Madamji.. I have to, for the sake of my neighbours...& make sure it doesn't spill over across the border from Kasargod & Manjeshwar.

Are you from the very same Dakshina Kannada district,where non Muslim male students are not allowed to sit beside or can't even talk to a female Muslim students in schools and college??..Is yasin bhatkal,founder head of IM from your area??..Google-Hindu Muslim relations in Mangalore for more..
Moreover,Most extremist Muslims in Kerala are from TULUnadu area of Kasargod town,Uppala and Manjeshwar and most importantly they are Beary Muslims of TULUva ancestry,not Malayali Muslims..I am not saying that there are no such elements among Malayali Muslims..
Anyway,Thankz for your concern,Devru nimage olledu maadali..

 

[Echo_419]

New Delhi, June 25: Last year violence broke out near a Mosque in Bommanhalli, Bengaluru and what was being termed as minor tiff was in fact a case of some youth trying to impose the Wahabi preachings.When the seniors in the administration of the Mosque opposed these youth, there were clashes in which 4 persons were injured seriously.

In another incident that occurred in Maharashtra, Wahabi scholars bribed some members of the Mosque and attempted taking over the administration. While the Muslims in many states have opposed the Wahabis tooth and nail, success for the Saudi Arabia sponsored Wahabis was highest in Kerala. These are instances that could be read with the recent Wikileaks documents which suggested that Saudi Arabia is worried about the growing influence of Iran over India and the outreach by Tehran to the Shia community was worrying. The Muslim World League also requests Saudi Arabia to establish Wahabi centres in India to counter the threat from the Shias.

How Saudi Arabia set up Wahabi centres in India?
Saudi Arabia realizes that the Shias in India are a threat to the dominance of the Sunni community. India houses a large number of Shias and this according to the Saudis gives Iran an upper hand in India. However for Saudi the Sunnis in India have not followed the violent Wahabi style of Islam and there are many seniors in the Muslim community who will not allow that to happen. The only way Saudi could instill a radical thinking in the minds of the Sunni Muslims in India was by the establishment of Wahabi centres. The Wahabis are an extremely orthodox set of Sunni Muslims. There are several Muslims in India who subscribe to the Wahabi view. As a first step, Saudi sent in several Wahabi preachers into India an Intelligence Bureau report states. The years 2011 to 2013 alone saw a record number of 25,000 Wahabis coming to India and conducting seminars in various parts of the country. With them they brought in Rs 1700 crore in several installments and used it to propogate the Wahabi style of Islam.

Wahabism found success in Kerala:

The drive by Saudi to impose the Wahabi culture in India has not been entirely a success. The highest rate of success that they have witnessed is in Kerala. This is a lot to do with the fact that there is a large population of people who go to Saudi in search of employment. Many in Kerala have welcomed with open arms the Wahabi style of preaching and this has let the Saudi controlled lot take control over nearly 75 Mosques in the state. The newer Mosques that are coming up in Kerala are also constructed in the manner in which they done in Saudi Arabia. This is just one small indicator of how much people of the state are willing to follow the radical style preached by the Wahabi scholars. Moreover the inflow of funds into Kerala from Saudi is the highest when compared to any other part of the country. It was in Kerala that one got to see posters mourning the death of Osama Bin Laden and also a prayer for Ajmal Kasab after he was hanged. Intelligence Bureau officials tell OneIndia that a large number of youth appear to be attracted to this radical style of Islam, but also add that there are some elders who are trying to oppose it.

The Wahabi rule book in India:

Each time a Wahabi preacher comes to India, he comes in with a rule book.:
What they intend to do is ensure that the rule book is circulated in the Mosques. However when the administration of the Mosques have opposed this it has led to clashes. The rule book has a set of guidelines which need to be ahdhered to failing which the horrific Sharia law would be imposed.

Here are a couple of guidelines that have been set as per the Wahabi rule book:
• Shrines shall be forbidden
• Every Muslim woman should wear purdah or be subject to severe punishment
• Men have to compulsorily grow beards
• Women should not be allowed to work. Exception can be made only if the family is in need.
• Men and women should not mingle together in public.
• No weeping loudly at funerals.
• Abide by the Shariat law; every offence committed shall be punishable under this law. • All men should wear trousers which are above their ankles.
• No laughing loudly or listening to music; no dancing or watching television.

Wahabi universities being set up:

The Saudi sponsored Wahabis are aiming to set up their own education system in India as well. Out of the total Rs 1700 crore that has been earmarked for the cause, Rs 800 crore is being spent on setting up Universities in different parts of the country. One such university was seen in Andhra Pradesh as well. Over all they propose to set up 4 such universities which will only cater to Wahabi preachings. With the take over of the existing Mosques becoming extremely difficult, they have earmarked Rs 400 crore to set up 40 Mosques adhering only to Wahabi preachings in different parts of the country. A sum of Rs 300 has been been earmarked to set up Madrasas while the remaining Rs 200 crore has been set aside as miscellaneous costs which also would include bribes to paid off to Mosque authorities as was seen in Maharashtra.

The birth of the Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith:
The birth of the Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith took place in India in the state of Jammu and Kashmir. As a first step they wielded their influence on the various Mosques which began preaching the Sharia law as mandated by the Wahabis. The next stop was Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh following which they began wielding influence heavily in Kerala. The Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith was the umbrella body which oversaw the flow of Wahabi scholars into India. The same outfit is also making efforts to spread their ideology into Andhra Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar and until last year Karantaka.

Read more at: How Saudi funded Rs 1,700 crore for Wahabi influence in India - Oneindia

Execute every single one of these suckers

Still Kerala is far better than UP bihar bengal though concern in OP are genuine.....

So you want the situation to go worse before taking action

 

[Saif al-Arab]

There is noting called "Wahhabism" and Islam which originates from Hijaz (KSA, Arabia, the Arabian Peninsula, Arab world) already has almost 200 million followers in India so that game is already "lost" if the goal was to limit Islam in India.

Secondly all sects originate from Arabia, including the Shia sect.

Sufism too.

In KSA all Islamic sects are found indigenously in significant numbers as the only Muslim country in the world.

ISIS and their ideology has nothing to do with KSA or Islam.

Some absolutely ridicolous barking in this thread.

If India and Indians have a problem with the 450 million Arabs, KSA, GCC, then millions of Indians should stop living/working/visiting our lands and India should stop trading with the Arab world which is India's biggest trading partner! Shameless hypocrisy!

@azzo @JUBA @Bubblegum Crisis @Full Moon @burning_phoneix @Frosty etc.

 

[Echo_419]

Madamji.. I have to, for the sake of my neighbours...& make sure it doesn't spill over across the border from Kasargod & Manjeshwar.

We must act fast & nip it in it's bud before this gets pyt of Kerala

There is noting called "Wahhabism" and Islam which originates from Hijaz (KSA, Arabia, the Arabian Peninsula, Arab world) already has almost 200 million followers in India so that game is already "lost" if the goal was to limit Islam in India.

Secondly all sects originate from Arabia, including the Shia sect.

Sufism too.

In KSA all Islamic sects are found indigenously in significant numbers as the only Muslim country in the world.

ISIS and their ideology has nothing to do with KSA or Islam.

Some absolutely ridicolous barking in this thread.

Muslims are a integral part of India but wahabism is not acceptable in this country you can do this experiment in your country

 

[Saif al-Arab]

We must act fast & nip it in it's bud before this gets pyt of Kerala



Muslims are a integral part of India but wahabism is not acceptable in this country you can do this experiment in your country

What the hell is "Wahhabism"? Who the hell calls himself "Wahhabi"? What is it precisely? As I already told you KSA is indigenous to all Muslim sects in the world unlike any other Muslim country out there and all the Muslims in KSA are Muslims (Sunni or Shia).

Keep parroting media inventions.

I am a Sunni Muslim of the Shafi'i fiqh. What the hell makes me "Wahhabi"?

Those below must be so-called "Wahhabis" too. What a joke!

 

[utraash]

Execute every single one of these suckers


So you want the situation to go worse before taking action

Misinterpreting buddy .... You need to scroll few post back to see my post to clear your misconceptions about my post....

 

[Hindustani78]

This is the reported figure...... and Majority of these comes from US, UK and other European nations.....My point was specific to ME.....Or KSA to be precise....



It is much more easier in hawala than in bank...... with no additional charges, and better conversion rates....

Jun 7, 2015, 01.33 AM IST
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Everyone knows about the large-scale migration of Malayalis to the Gulf region and the significant role their remittances have played in Kerala's economy. But here's a really big piece of news: NRI deposits in Kerala have now crossed the magic mark of Rs 1 lakh crore, soaring by more than 17% from Rs 93,884 crore to Rs 1.1 crore (at the end of 2014-15) in the space of just one year, according to data collected by the state level bankers committee (SLBC). This includes money from all parts of the world.

What's noteworthy is that the growth has come in spite of an uncertain job scenario in West Asia, especially in Saudi Arabia, which has been trying to replace foreign workers with its own.

Reserve Bank of India (RBI) data shows that there was a little over $115 billion in NRI accounts in India, which is about Rs 7 lakh crore. Kerala, thus accounts for roughly a sixth of all the money deposited in NRI accounts.

India is the largest recipient of remittance flows in the world receiving about $70 billion (roughly Rs 4.2 lakh crore) from this source in 2014, according to World Bank data.

A Kerala government survey showed that remittances sent by the diaspora support at least 50 lakh people in the state, which has a population of 3.15 crore.

The Muslim-dominated Malappuram district has the highest number of people living off remittances, around 2.9 lakh. Around 58,500 women from Kerala today work as nurses and Kottayam district has the maximum number of women working abroad.

State government data shows that of the 16.3 lakh non-resident Keralites (the Centre for Development Studies puts the figure at a much higher 24 lakh), 88% live in West Asia. The maximum number of Keralites, around 5.73 lakh, reside in the UAE and around 4.50 lakh in Saudi Arabia. Many have been migrating to the US and Europe in the last decade thanks to the boom in infotech and fast-growing opportunities in healthcare.

Absurd! What trade has got to do with this cruel caveman culture? Saudi trades big with US. How many churches do you find there? Pubs, bars, nightclubs, nude beaches??

Here its about the trade between India and Arab world for the whole.

$180 billion . Its not any small amount.

 

[Echo_419]

What the hell is "Wahhabism"? Who the hell calls himself "Wahhabi"? What is it precisely? As I already told you KSA is indigenous to all Muslim sects in the world unlike any other Muslim country out there and all the Muslims in KSA are Muslims (Sunni or Shia).

Keep parroting media inventions.

I am a Sunni Muslim of the Shafi'i fiqh. What the hell makes me "Wahhabi"?

Those below must be so-called "Wahhabis" too. What a joke!

Let me rephrase myself those people who want to spread the conservative Saudi version of Islam must be stopped,just look at what you did to Pakistan next door

Jun 7, 2015, 01.33 AM IST
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: Everyone knows about the large-scale migration of Malayalis to the Gulf region and the significant role their remittances have played in Kerala's economy. But here's a really big piece of news: NRI deposits in Kerala have now crossed the magic mark of Rs 1 lakh crore, soaring by more than 17% from Rs 93,884 crore to Rs 1.1 crore (at the end of 2014-15) in the space of just one year, according to data collected by the state level bankers committee (SLBC). This includes money from all parts of the world.

What's noteworthy is that the growth has come in spite of an uncertain job scenario in West Asia, especially in Saudi Arabia, which has been trying to replace foreign workers with its own.

Reserve Bank of India (RBI) data shows that there was a little over $115 billion in NRI accounts in India, which is about Rs 7 lakh crore. Kerala, thus accounts for roughly a sixth of all the money deposited in NRI accounts.

India is the largest recipient of remittance flows in the world receiving about $70 billion (roughly Rs 4.2 lakh crore) from this source in 2014, according to World Bank data.

A Kerala government survey showed that remittances sent by the diaspora support at least 50 lakh people in the state, which has a population of 3.15 crore.

The Muslim-dominated Malappuram district has the highest number of people living off remittances, around 2.9 lakh. Around 58,500 women from Kerala today work as nurses and Kottayam district has the maximum number of women working abroad.

State government data shows that of the 16.3 lakh non-resident Keralites (the Centre for Development Studies puts the figure at a much higher 24 lakh), 88% live in West Asia. The maximum number of Keralites, around 5.73 lakh, reside in the UAE and around 4.50 lakh in Saudi Arabia. Many have been migrating to the US and Europe in the last decade thanks to the boom in infotech and fast-growing opportunities in healthcare.



Here its about the trade between India and Arab world for the whole.

$180 billion . Its not any small amount.

Trade does not give then the opportunity to destabilize us